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"Fiscal conservative" Rand Paul pledges $9+ Billion to Israel on the backs of American taxpayers

UPDATE 7/14/12: Rand Paul's D.C. office responded to queries yesterday (sort of)

Rand Paul remains silent on $9 Billion dollar giveway to Israel

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Romney Lapdog Joins Criminal Senate, Guarantees $9 Billion Dollars (plus interest) in Loans to Israel in six second voice vote


U.S. Senate also acknowledges "efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas."
By Martin Hill
http://libertyfight.com/2012/criminal_senate_guarantees_isra...
July 9, 2012

Have you heard about the the "United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012"? It was introduced by Senator Barbara Boxer on 3/6/12 with 71 Cosponsors.

The House passed their version [H.R.4133] on May 9, pledging unlimited loyalty and riches to our "special friend" Israel, with only two congressman dissenting- Ron Paul and Democrat John Dingell of Michigan.

The U.S. Senate passed their version on Friday June 29, 2012. Known in the Senate as S.2165, the measure guaranteed an astonishing $9 billion dollars in loans to Israel (plus all fees and interest!) in addition to giving "military assistance- stockpiles of defense articles" valued at $200 million for 2013 and $200 million for 2014.

Boxer praised passage of the bill, stating "I am so pleased that the Senate moved quickly to pass this important bill, which reaffirms the important bond between the United States and Israel and helps ensure that Israel has the necessary tools to defend itself in this time of dynamic change in the Middle East."

Initially seeking documentation of which way turncoat Rand Paul voted on this treasonous bill, I tried to find the roll call votes. But as Harry Reid pointed out during the session, "THE NEXT ROLL CALL VOTE WILL BE AT NOON ON TUESDAY, JULY 10". The Senators passed this bill anonymously, in a so-called "voice vote"!

According to the Senate website, a
"voice vote" is "A vote in which the presiding officer states the question, then asks those in favor and against to say "Yea" or "Nay," respectively, and announces the result according to his or her judgment. The names or numbers of senators voting on each side are not recorded.".

After tracking down the actual video of this travesty, which was no easy task- (they seem to make these things hard to find on purpose)- it was like watching something straight out of the twilight zone. Two old guys in suits mumbling under their breath in a strange monotone fashion, with the entire U.S. Senate taking literally less than six seconds total to squander 9 BILLION DOLLARS
from the American people. A true outrage. They did not even call out each Senators name so that their constituents can hear whether they voted yea or nay.

You can watch the actual specific clip of this insane
exchange now: [Direct link here.] Below is the transcript.

05:58:3023 sec.


THE CLERK

CALENDAR NUMBER 437, S. 2165, A BILL TO ENHANCE STRATEGIC COOPERATION BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

05:58:3918 sec.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE SENATE WILL PROCEED TO THE MEASURE.

05:58:4326 sec.
Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
MR. PRESIDENT, I FURTHER ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE-REPORTED SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT BE AGREED, THE BILL AS AMEND BE READ A THIRD TIME, PASSED, THE SENATE PROCEED...

05:58:5622 sec.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES APPEAR TO HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. THANKS

05:59:0321 sec.
MR. REID
THE AYES HAVE IT. THANKS MR. PRESIDENT. I ASK THAT THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BE LAID ON THE TABLE,.

Confirming Rand Paul's support of this bill was Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who said "I am very pleased that this important piece of legislation passed quickly and unanimously in the Senate today, demonstrating the United States' strong, unwavering commitment to Israel and its security and self-defense."
Several other alleged small-government "Tea Party" types supported this bill as well, including Freshman Senator Mike Lee of Utah, who was a cosponsor of the bill, and Congressman Justin Amash, who voted for the House version of the bill on May 9th. In reality, it is absurd to contend that anyone who even nods to the notion of limited Constitutional government would for one second consider guaranteeing $9 billion dollars in loans to anyone, ever.

The bill will soon be sent to Obama for his signature. By going to http://thomas.loc.gov
and typing the term United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012 in the search box, one can read full details on both the house and senate versions of this bill.

The Senate version
summary states
that

"it is U.S. policy to: (1) reaffirm the commitment to Israel's security as a Jewish state, (2) provide Israel with the military capabilities to defend itself and help preserve its qualitative military edge, (3) expand military and civilian cooperation, (4) assist in a negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that results in two states living side by side in peace and security, and (5) encourage Israel's neighbors to recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.


Expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should take specified actions to assist in Israel's defense.


Amends the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2005 to extend authority to transfer certain obsolete or surplus Department of Defense (DOD) items to Israel.

Amends the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to extend authority to make additions to foreign-based defense stockpiles.

Amends the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003 to extend specified loan guarantee authority to Israel.

The law required that a Senate report be done on the bill. On June 27, two days before the voice vote, Skull and bones member John Kerry presented the obligatory
"written report No. 112-179"
. A perusal of that extremely scant document reveals that no real effort was taken to compile anything of substance in the report other than to continue bankrolling Israel.

The report [PDF] did acknowledge, however, "efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas."

Kerrys' report began with lies demonizing Iran: "SECTION 2. FINDINGS.
This section provides several findings, including: that there is a special bond between the United States and Israel; that the Middle East is undergoing rapid change; that the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran continues to foment instability in the region; that the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran continues to enrich uranium in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions; that a nuclear-weapons capable Iran would threaten vital United States interests; and that the authority to make available loan guarantees to Israel is currently set to expire on September 30, 2012."

The report states "That the interest rate for loans guaranteed under this heading may include a reasonable fee to cover the costs and fees incurred by the borrower in connection with this program", but then goes on to state "That funds made available for assistance to Israel under chapter 4 of part II of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, as amended, may be utilized by the Government of Israel to pay such fees to the United States Government"!

So we can charge them interest and fees on the $9 billion dollars, but then let them use our money to pay the fees! What could America, or the American people who supposedly elected these rats, possibly gain from this crazy alliance? More excerpts of interest from the report below.

Martin Hill is a Catholic paleoconservative and civil rights advocate. His work has been featured on LewRockwell.com, WhatReallyHappened, Infowars, PrisonPlanet, National Motorists Association, WorldNetDaily, The Orange County Register, KNBC4 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Catholic Lay Mission Newspaper, KFI 640, The Press Enterprise, Antiwar.com, IamtheWitness.com, FreedomsPhoenix, Rense, BlackBoxVoting, and many others. Archives can be found at LibertyFight.com

SECTION 4. SENSE OF CONGRESS
This section expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should take specified actions to assist in Israel's defense, among which are: providing the Government of Israel support necessary to enhance development and increase production of joint missile defense systems; providing the Government of Israel appropriate defense articles and defense services through appropriate mechanisms; examining ways to strengthen existing security initiatives and bilateral training exercises; and encouraging an expanded role for Israel with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

SECTION 5. ADDITIONAL STEPS TO DEFEND ISRAEL AND PROTECT AMERICAN INTERESTS.
This section would amend the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2005, to extend authority to transfer certain obsolete or surplus Department of Defense items to Israel. The section would also amend the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to provide extended authority to make additions to foreign-based defense stockpiles through 2014, and the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003, to extend specified loan guarantee authority to Israel. As noted in section 2 of the bill, the authority provided by the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003, as amended, would otherwise expire on September 30, 2012

SECTION 6. REPORTS REQUIRED.
This section requires several reports on previously enacted provisions of law, and otherwise. The first is a report on the status of Israel's qualitative military edge. The second is a report on actions that could improve the process related to Israel's purchase of F-35 aircraft. The third is a report on efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas. The fourth is a report on actions to integrate Israel into the defense of the Eastern Mediterranean

CHAPTER 2--MILITARY ASSISTANCE


(2)(A) The value of such additions to stockpiles of defense articles in foreign countries shall not exceed $200,000,000 for each of 5fiscal years 2011 and 20126 fiscal years 2013 and 2014

LOAN GUARANTEES TO ISRAEL

During the period beginning March 1, 2003, and ending September 30, 2007, loan guarantees may be made available to Israel, guaranteeing 100 percent of the principal and interest on such loans, the principal amount, any part of which is to be guaranteed, not to exceed $9,000,000,000, of which up to $3,000,000,000 may be issued prior to October 1, 2003, or thereafter and of which $3,000,000,000 may be issued subsequent to September 30, 2015: Provided, That such guarantees shall constitute obligations, in accordance with the terms of such guarantees, of the United States and the full faith and credit of the United States is hereby pledged for the full payment and performance of such obligations

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Our Special Friend??

Why is Israel our 'Special Friend'?

What do they do for America except give the Neocons and hawks something to rally around and make 90% of the Arab world hate us? And we pay them for this. . . ?

“Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” —Thomas Jefferson

They're special because

because they OWN our government!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Government

and churches.

Someone over at Ron Paul

Someone over at Ron Paul forums made the point that this wasn't actually one of the "hotline" votes, so Rand didn't actually consent to anything. The only way that anyone could've objected to this bill is if they had yelled "no" on the Senate floor. Rand may not have even been on the Senate floor. And even if he was, Rand is smart enough to know that there's absolutely no point in forcing a vote that would end up being a 99-1 vote. Rand is smart and understands the right time to fight these battles.

All this thread really is,

is another thinly disguised excuse to try to kick Rand around again.
This isn't really even about Israel or "aid". Those are just peripheral issues around the central over-riding emotional NEED for some people around here to HATE on Rand.

Any excuse will do for them.
Got to keep the pot stirred up, to keep a good psy-op going.

guilty as charged, i didn't

guilty as charged, i didn't even read the article. i'm in limboooooo.....

lawrence

The sad thing that just hit me.

Nothing is going to stop this.

We could write every handle down and publish the list as a list of trolls.

They would simply reappear.

Short of requiring real names, addresses and contact info, this isn't going to stop.

On the upside, I think that is a great idea. The DP should require real names and contact info in order to post here.

It won't stop it, but it will slow it down substantially.

Repeat: Just report us to

Repeat: Just report us to homeland security.

lawrence

Why stop there? Let's have

Why stop there? Let's have dailypaul subscribe to Patriot Act CIP requirements. That will solve the problem!

Dine in or carry out.

No delivery.

What is the difference?

Are you saying that Mr. Nystrom would report your info to homeland security?

Nope, just making light of

Nope, just making light of your incredibly ironic (read: tone-deaf) suggestion that he attempt collecting more data from a libertarian demographic with the aim of weeding out alleged trolls.

I mean, the suggestion is so saturated with irony that I nearly shit my pants when I read it. Thanks for the laugh.

carry on.

God Bless.

Rand pulled the same stunt on

Rand pulled the same stunt on the Libya No Fly Zone. He was part of a "unanimous consent" requirement that endorsed the Zone. Ironically, it was the warmongers, like Hannity, who led the charge against the fly zone. When Rand discovered this, he opportunistically tried to run to the front of the parade, despite his earlier vote.

The rationalizations for Rand's failure to cast a dissenting vote are laughable. Could he have stopped the aid? No....but he could have at least created a debate which might shift public opinion in the long-term. If Rand just as a short-term mentality, we are better without him. In my view, of course, Rand didn't object because he supports this bill or at least doesnt't care about this issue.

Same shhtunt, different bill.

Laughable, indeed.

where is the proof?

I don't see any evidence here that he voted for this. Maybe I am missing it.

If you need proof, perhaps

If you need proof, perhaps you need to look up the meaning of the term unanimous? It could only be unanimous with Rand's consent. Get it?

Did you watch the clip?

And Rand Paul said.....?

And Rand Paul said.....? That's the issue at hand here.

is there evidence that Rand

is there evidence that Rand was there? i missed that. my point being that the vote *could* have been unanimous, but NOT 100% attended.

You are right..........

You are Right

Maybe Ron Paul supporters need to join the GOP

Get on committee seats and help Rand follow his father's foot steps more closely rather than remain OUTSIDE the party and bashing him?

Sigh

Or you could read what is actually going on with a bill like this:

Justin Amash's own words on the bill:

http://www.facebook.com/repjustinamash/posts/399961023376643

Eric Hoffer

Sigh is right!!! Amash

Sigh is right!!! Amash unfortunately is dead wrong on this. His ratioanlization (which you support??!!) is laughable and represents and abdication to the executive branch and military/industrial complex. Here it is in all its infamy:

"If the U.S. government concludes that they are beneficial to OUR defense, then they certainly are constitutional as a Necessary and Proper correlate of Congress's power to raise and support Armies. This has been the view in our country from the Founders on."

The claim that this merely a "loan" also doesn't pass the smell test. It it was truly a loan (not a interest rate subsidy) Israel could easily get it from the private sector.

?

It's the extension of the same loan that was already ongoing. While I disagree with him on the decision, I don't believe it's unconstitutional. However, if you read his post, he says straight out that he thinks he made the wrong call there and will be taking into account the feedback he got from Constituents. You did read that part right?

Not every mistake is a "omg he sold out entirely and the world is ending!" deal. We're voting a lot of amateurs into office, and if we have people in who LISTEN to feedback and actually work with the people, we'll have successful liberty advocates. If we simply toss out everyone who makes a call we don't agree with even if they're 98% on the same page, we're going to toss a lot of people and lose everything we've gained.

Eric Hoffer

Thanks for the correction.

Thanks for the correction. You have mistated my position, however. I have praised Amash in the past and continue to believe he is the best in either the House and Senate. I merely said he is "dead wrong" on this particular issue and you seem to agree. Are the loans "constitutional?" Who knows? In my view, the rot first set in when we repealed the Articles of Confederation.

Ahhh got you

Ahhh, got you. I was more speaking to the alarmism I've seen in other posts. Thank you for the clarification.

Agreed that he was dead wrong here.

Eric Hoffer

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Maybe someone should just ask him.

I don't know quite which way to think on this one until he explains.

His FIRST bill as a Senator

included ending ALL foreign aid, including to Israel.

This bill passed by a VOICE VOTE. There is no record of who voted Yay or Nay and not every Senator has to say Yay or Nay.

If you are going to Trash Ron Pauls son then you better have

If you are going to Trash Ron Paul's son then you better have better proof than this. You posted over 1700 words that contained no proof whatsoever knowing that most of the knee jerk Rand Bashers on this site wouldn't bother to read your post and just believe it at face value.

All of you who commented negatively without reading the post should be ashamed of yourselves.

Just what is the OPer trying to accomplish. Division is the only weapon available against Ron Paul

Proof? What is about the

Proof? What is about the word "unanimous" that you don't understand?