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"Fiscal conservative" Rand Paul pledges $9+ Billion to Israel on the backs of American taxpayers

UPDATE 7/14/12: Rand Paul's D.C. office responded to queries yesterday (sort of)

Rand Paul remains silent on $9 Billion dollar giveway to Israel

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Romney Lapdog Joins Criminal Senate, Guarantees $9 Billion Dollars (plus interest) in Loans to Israel in six second voice vote


U.S. Senate also acknowledges "efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas."
By Martin Hill
http://libertyfight.com/2012/criminal_senate_guarantees_isra...
July 9, 2012

Have you heard about the the "United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012"? It was introduced by Senator Barbara Boxer on 3/6/12 with 71 Cosponsors.

The House passed their version [H.R.4133] on May 9, pledging unlimited loyalty and riches to our "special friend" Israel, with only two congressman dissenting- Ron Paul and Democrat John Dingell of Michigan.

The U.S. Senate passed their version on Friday June 29, 2012. Known in the Senate as S.2165, the measure guaranteed an astonishing $9 billion dollars in loans to Israel (plus all fees and interest!) in addition to giving "military assistance- stockpiles of defense articles" valued at $200 million for 2013 and $200 million for 2014.

Boxer praised passage of the bill, stating "I am so pleased that the Senate moved quickly to pass this important bill, which reaffirms the important bond between the United States and Israel and helps ensure that Israel has the necessary tools to defend itself in this time of dynamic change in the Middle East."

Initially seeking documentation of which way turncoat Rand Paul voted on this treasonous bill, I tried to find the roll call votes. But as Harry Reid pointed out during the session, "THE NEXT ROLL CALL VOTE WILL BE AT NOON ON TUESDAY, JULY 10". The Senators passed this bill anonymously, in a so-called "voice vote"!

According to the Senate website, a
"voice vote" is "A vote in which the presiding officer states the question, then asks those in favor and against to say "Yea" or "Nay," respectively, and announces the result according to his or her judgment. The names or numbers of senators voting on each side are not recorded.".

After tracking down the actual video of this travesty, which was no easy task- (they seem to make these things hard to find on purpose)- it was like watching something straight out of the twilight zone. Two old guys in suits mumbling under their breath in a strange monotone fashion, with the entire U.S. Senate taking literally less than six seconds total to squander 9 BILLION DOLLARS
from the American people. A true outrage. They did not even call out each Senators name so that their constituents can hear whether they voted yea or nay.

You can watch the actual specific clip of this insane
exchange now: [Direct link here.] Below is the transcript.

05:58:3023 sec.


THE CLERK

CALENDAR NUMBER 437, S. 2165, A BILL TO ENHANCE STRATEGIC COOPERATION BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

05:58:3918 sec.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE SENATE WILL PROCEED TO THE MEASURE.

05:58:4326 sec.
Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
MR. PRESIDENT, I FURTHER ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE-REPORTED SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT BE AGREED, THE BILL AS AMEND BE READ A THIRD TIME, PASSED, THE SENATE PROCEED...

05:58:5622 sec.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES APPEAR TO HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. THANKS

05:59:0321 sec.
MR. REID
THE AYES HAVE IT. THANKS MR. PRESIDENT. I ASK THAT THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BE LAID ON THE TABLE,.

Confirming Rand Paul's support of this bill was Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who said "I am very pleased that this important piece of legislation passed quickly and unanimously in the Senate today, demonstrating the United States' strong, unwavering commitment to Israel and its security and self-defense."
Several other alleged small-government "Tea Party" types supported this bill as well, including Freshman Senator Mike Lee of Utah, who was a cosponsor of the bill, and Congressman Justin Amash, who voted for the House version of the bill on May 9th. In reality, it is absurd to contend that anyone who even nods to the notion of limited Constitutional government would for one second consider guaranteeing $9 billion dollars in loans to anyone, ever.

The bill will soon be sent to Obama for his signature. By going to http://thomas.loc.gov
and typing the term United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012 in the search box, one can read full details on both the house and senate versions of this bill.

The Senate version
summary states
that

"it is U.S. policy to: (1) reaffirm the commitment to Israel's security as a Jewish state, (2) provide Israel with the military capabilities to defend itself and help preserve its qualitative military edge, (3) expand military and civilian cooperation, (4) assist in a negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that results in two states living side by side in peace and security, and (5) encourage Israel's neighbors to recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.


Expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should take specified actions to assist in Israel's defense.


Amends the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2005 to extend authority to transfer certain obsolete or surplus Department of Defense (DOD) items to Israel.

Amends the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to extend authority to make additions to foreign-based defense stockpiles.

Amends the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003 to extend specified loan guarantee authority to Israel.

The law required that a Senate report be done on the bill. On June 27, two days before the voice vote, Skull and bones member John Kerry presented the obligatory
"written report No. 112-179"
. A perusal of that extremely scant document reveals that no real effort was taken to compile anything of substance in the report other than to continue bankrolling Israel.

The report [PDF] did acknowledge, however, "efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas."

Kerrys' report began with lies demonizing Iran: "SECTION 2. FINDINGS.
This section provides several findings, including: that there is a special bond between the United States and Israel; that the Middle East is undergoing rapid change; that the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran continues to foment instability in the region; that the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran continues to enrich uranium in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions; that a nuclear-weapons capable Iran would threaten vital United States interests; and that the authority to make available loan guarantees to Israel is currently set to expire on September 30, 2012."

The report states "That the interest rate for loans guaranteed under this heading may include a reasonable fee to cover the costs and fees incurred by the borrower in connection with this program", but then goes on to state "That funds made available for assistance to Israel under chapter 4 of part II of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, as amended, may be utilized by the Government of Israel to pay such fees to the United States Government"!

So we can charge them interest and fees on the $9 billion dollars, but then let them use our money to pay the fees! What could America, or the American people who supposedly elected these rats, possibly gain from this crazy alliance? More excerpts of interest from the report below.

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SECTION 4. SENSE OF CONGRESS
This section expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should take specified actions to assist in Israel's defense, among which are: providing the Government of Israel support necessary to enhance development and increase production of joint missile defense systems; providing the Government of Israel appropriate defense articles and defense services through appropriate mechanisms; examining ways to strengthen existing security initiatives and bilateral training exercises; and encouraging an expanded role for Israel with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

SECTION 5. ADDITIONAL STEPS TO DEFEND ISRAEL AND PROTECT AMERICAN INTERESTS.
This section would amend the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2005, to extend authority to transfer certain obsolete or surplus Department of Defense items to Israel. The section would also amend the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to provide extended authority to make additions to foreign-based defense stockpiles through 2014, and the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003, to extend specified loan guarantee authority to Israel. As noted in section 2 of the bill, the authority provided by the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003, as amended, would otherwise expire on September 30, 2012

SECTION 6. REPORTS REQUIRED.
This section requires several reports on previously enacted provisions of law, and otherwise. The first is a report on the status of Israel's qualitative military edge. The second is a report on actions that could improve the process related to Israel's purchase of F-35 aircraft. The third is a report on efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas. The fourth is a report on actions to integrate Israel into the defense of the Eastern Mediterranean

CHAPTER 2--MILITARY ASSISTANCE


(2)(A) The value of such additions to stockpiles of defense articles in foreign countries shall not exceed $200,000,000 for each of 5fiscal years 2011 and 20126 fiscal years 2013 and 2014

LOAN GUARANTEES TO ISRAEL

During the period beginning March 1, 2003, and ending September 30, 2007, loan guarantees may be made available to Israel, guaranteeing 100 percent of the principal and interest on such loans, the principal amount, any part of which is to be guaranteed, not to exceed $9,000,000,000, of which up to $3,000,000,000 may be issued prior to October 1, 2003, or thereafter and of which $3,000,000,000 may be issued subsequent to September 30, 2015: Provided, That such guarantees shall constitute obligations, in accordance with the terms of such guarantees, of the United States and the full faith and credit of the United States is hereby pledged for the full payment and performance of such obligations



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Ron Paul's HR 459 also passed "unanimously" in the House Oversight Committee.

HOWEVER, Elijah Cummings is the Ranking Member and outright tried to kill the bill. After he lost, Issa asked for a voice vote. No one said NAY so it passed "unanimously".

Would you say Elijah Cummings voted for HR 459?

I would say he did so

I would say he did so constructively IF he was present during the voice vote. Being quiet and anxiously biting one's lip in the pew when given a chance to speak up against something is more voting in favor than it is voting against.

You don't understand their pride then

You think a politician like him would want to be on the record of having to yell Nay knowing full well that he would lose the vote when he could simply stay quiet and no one would know?

Also, if you watched him during the committee, its obvious that he doesnt have the slightest clue or interest in the Fed. Someone fed him a paper to read and he did his job in trying to water down the bill.

Totally agree.

The easiest way to get a visceral reaction is to post an inflammatory headline on something so long that no one wants to take the time to read it thoroughly. I skipped right through it to see comments first. Glad I saw yours because had I gotten to the negative ones, being lazy today and not reading the original post, I'd have seen more venom which would make me think the headline is correct. At this point, after your comment, I now question that headline. Which is a good thing!!! :)

I agree. If you're going to trash Rand Paul, or anyone, have the facts to back it up.

Blessings )o(

What facts are wrong? Was it

What facts are wrong? Was it or was it a "UNANIMOUS" (that includes Rand) consent requirement? Not even the Rand defenders can agree on how to explain this. Some are even admitting the vote, but rationalizing it as support for a "loan" not a subsidy.

Criminal Governments that support terror stick together.

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Free includes debt-free!

Yet another pay-day for the usual crooks-

Another sad day for America and Liberty. If this is the deal Israel gets, quid pro quo says the aggregate Arab puppets are getting twice that amount.

As to Rand, if he voted for this, that's just not good enough...

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Some of you missed the point..

Why should ANY country, let alone a free and prosperous one like Israel get ANY money from us when we have huge deficits?

All foreign aid including for military, should be CUT.

Remember the 'anti-semitic' charge is used irresponsibly just as the 'racism' charge is used. It means nothing any more.

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I don't believe anyone is

I don't believe anyone is arguing that we should give out foreign aid to Israel or any other country. I'm just pointing out that Rand never voted in favor of this bill.

It's a loan.

They repay it with interest.

Since you support government

Since you support government loans, why not be consistent and also support nationalization of the banking industy. BTW, the likes of Jesse Helms used the make similar rationalizations for tobacco "loans" which they claimed "made money" for the government. Everyone of serious mind properly belittled this rationalization.

Most U.S. loans to Israel are forgiven...

Most U.S. loans to Israel are forgiven, and many were made with the explicit understanding that they would be forgiven before Israel was required to repay them. By disguising as loans what in fact were grants, cooperating members of Congress exempted Israel from the U.S. oversight that would have accompanied grants. On other loans, Israel was expected to pay the interest and eventually to begin repaying the principal. But the so-called Cranston Amendment, which has been attached by Congress to every foreign aid appropriation since 1983, provides that economic aid to Israel will never dip below the amount Israel is required to pay on its outstanding loans. In short, whether U.S. aid is extended as grants or loans to Israel, it never returns to the Treasury.

http://www.washington-report.org/archives/137-washington-rep...

Yeah, but the funny thing is

Yeah, but the funny thing is that we still have to borrow money from China in order to give this "loan" out to Israel.

I didn't see evidence of Rand voting Yay,

but he should have never let this go down as a voice vote. We have electronic voting, why don't they just use that to get all the senators on the record? Oh right, because it would be too embarrassing. They're like an execution range, all firing together so that no one can be directly linked to the death. Only in this case it's the American tax payer and the US constitution in the firing line.

What is this?

I'm sorry, I don't see where Senator Paul is supporting this.

The part that supposedly backs up the claim is this:

Confirming Rand Paul's support of this bill was Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who said "I am very pleased that this important piece of legislation passed quickly and unanimously in the Senate today, demonstrating the United States' strong, unwavering commitment to Israel and its security and self-defense."

Just who is Senator Isakson? I looked at his page and he doesn't seem like anyone I could just trust at face-value. And even if I did, how is him saying he is pleased at the legislation passing in any way stating Rand Paul supported it?

The post you have here even says it was conducted by voice vote and not recorded. I was expecting some kind of slick detective work to get around this apparent anonymous vote, but instead it's a long post filled with links that don't support any claims.

Please provide some evidence for your claims or you get no trust from me until that is done. Rand can actually support it or not, I just want to see some evidence either way.

What more evidence do you

What more evidence do you need than the simple fact that it was passed as part of UNANIMOUS" consent requirement? Rand pulled the same stunt when he was part of a similar requirement supporting a No Fly Zone for Libya. The good doctor Ron would never play these games.

disinfo

disinfo hacks are putting up 911 truth, muslim extremists videos, anti establishment rhetoric (is the RNC scared?etc etc), anti israel bashing literature, trying to pass off liberal GJ as a tea party conservative(my personal fave!lol) etc etc and on and on.

Rand Paul, Doug Wead, J. Benton. T.O and all the others are solid and in no way will be taken down by DP trolls/ disinfo hacks.
Their support is too solid and embedded and Ron Paul holds his cards close enough to always keep a real hack forever guessing.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

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oh great

Now we lend Israel money, a country who will accept our currency, is charged interest and fees and the US is no longer just giving it to them?

How dare you vote in favor Rand Paul.

take a few headlines of the bill and decide.
way to go.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

I donated to Ron Paul but Rand Paul is NO RON PAUL

I WILL WORK HARD TO UNSEAT RAND PAUL. I will donate the maximum to whoever runs against him! He fooled a lot of us. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me!

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Really eilif. Rand might have not lived up to YOUR high

expectation to find a cloned-Ron, but Rand is far better than most of the rest of senators.

Don't punish him for not living up to your expectation and help vote in another big-government neocon!

You're right! It's better to

You're right! It's better to compromise. After all, Ron did it his entire career, right? At least he's not as bad as Hitler!!!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

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That's probably the dumbest

That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So you would prefer a big government politician like Jack Conway who would've been with us 0% of the time, over a small government politician like Rand who's with us at least 95% of the time? With friends like those, who needs enemies?

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shame on you period.

Like his father, there is NO ONE else who votes better for liberty, in his respective body.

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Rand Paul 2016

Anyone

That would point out the obnoxious behavior of our senate, must be an anti-Semite, or even worse, an anti-zionist.

Probably won't hear much about this on the MSM or Alex Jones, have go to Jewbastards.com to keep up:@)

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'nuff said

Great!

Maybe he can get Jonathan Pollard sprung too, and return him to poor beleaguered Israel.(rollseyes)

Rand in my opinion is a

Rand in my opinion is a sellout. I've always just found him power-hungry and not in it for the right reasons.

Yes, but why vote FOR it?

The real problem here isn't that he didn't do anything to bend reality and make it fail; instead, it's the addition of another "go along to get along" notch on a belt that is already notched as much in a year as his father's entire career.

Not having the backbone to stand alone when doing so is right is not the hallmark of the type of people we need in Washington.

EDIT: this was meant in reply to A Real Conservative's 13:39 post.

As I said below, there was no

As I said below, there was no roll call vote on this bill. It was hotlined, which means that no Senator publicly voted for or against it.