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Just received an e-mail from Ron Paul... thoughts?

[ Also posted here: http://www.dailypaul.com/244504/did-you-get-this-where-we-st... ]

Dear James,

Just last week, I sent you an email letting you know my staff would be following up with you shortly to tell you everything you need to know about our plans for the Republican National Convention.

My staff has been busy burning up the phone lines, so many of you may have already heard from them.

But because this email is so important, I wanted it to come directly from me.

For several weeks now, I’ve been up front about the fact that Mitt Romney has obtained enough delegates to secure the Republican nomination.

That fact hasn’t changed - and it’s not going to change.

Over the past few weeks, my staff and I have researched the numbers extensively.

We’ve come to the conclusion that even if by some miracle all delegates to the Republican Convention were unbound, I would receive approximately 300 votes at the National Convention - far short of the 1,144 needed to secure the Republican nomination.

It’s also come to my attention recently that many supporters believe a win at the upcoming Nebraska State Convention this Saturday could be an important step for my campaign’s success in Tampa.

While my campaign is hoping to do as well as possible there, I can’t imagine a scenario where my goals or my plans for our R3VOLUTION in Tampa would change. They are:

*** Ensuring as many of my delegates as possible are credentialed.

There are many folks in the GOP who want my supporters to just shut up and go away, and they have resorted to every dirty trick in the book to game the system at various state conventions. You and I must ensure that as many of my supporters as possible are credentialed at the Republican National Convention.

*** Planting our flag.

Just by seeing a flood of my delegates in Tampa, you and I can respectfully send a loud and clear message that we are the future of the Republican Party. Seeing so many new and young faces at the RNC will show that despite their best efforts to maintain their iron grip over the Republican Party, our liberty movement is the future of the GOP;

*** Affecting the Platform.

By fighting for an internet freedom plank, Audit the Fed, and a plank opposing the indefinite detention of American citizens – and perhaps even opposing the so-called “PATRIOT” Act and undeclared war - you and I can prove we are a growing force in the Republican Party and perhaps convince more GOP elected officials to come our way on these critical issues;

As a National Delegate or Alternate, you’ve invested a lot of your time, talent, and hard-earned money into my campaign and our cause of liberty.

For that I am deeply grateful - and I can’t thank you enough.

I’m looking forward to going to Tampa and celebrating the success of my campaign, and more importantly, our bright future.

So if you haven’t yet done so, please CLICK HERE and register as a delegate or alternate so you can be kept up-to-date on our plans in Tampa.

And if you know of any other delegates in your state, please forward this email to them, as well.

I hope to see you in Tampa.

For Liberty,

Ron Paul

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This is BS

RP would never send out an email like that. You trying to punk us? You are making this chit up. Stop it!

Keepin' it real.


This is the reason people are leaving the Daily Paul. Because the race is over. ACCORDING TO RON PAUL HIMSELF!

Why are so many here still living in denial?

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

Ron Paul owes us all better than this.

he owes us an explanation...he owes us a conference call...a q&a....something...to explain b.s. emails like this one.

if this is really ron, and if this is really the liberty movements plan...then i'm out. not interested...get in touch when you get a leader with some balls.

just one more reason to vote libertarian - always. i hope you join me in doing that in november in a big way so that the gop knows it was liberty lovers who cost them the election.

Nope not his letter at all. I

Nope not his letter at all. I got one on 7/15 and it is nothing like that.

Ron did NOT write this

Listen to the vocabulary, it's not his. Think back to the pace with which you read "The Revolution," and "End the Fed." You knew they were in his words, his thoughts spilling on the page. There were certain vocabulary words you eventually understood to be very Ron Paul-esq while others would never be uttered from his mouth.

Below is a reference to the Letter supposedly written by Ron. Doctor Paul would never every say 'game the system.

"There are many folks in the GOP who want my supporters to just shut up and go away, and they have resorted to every dirty trick in the book to game the system at various state conventions. You and I must ensure that as many of my supporters as possible are credentialed at the Republican National Convention.*

Go back and reread and you will know one thing for absolute certainty... That Ron Paul did not write this.

The Patriots vs. the Raiders

I know analogies are imperfect but here is mine anyway. You have this game, sort of like football, but you score points by getting delegates. One league already has their winning team - the Panthers, even though their quarterback is ineligible. The other league is going to have a playoff real soon between the Patriots and the Raiders. The Patriots have one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, but they have been doing very badly lately mainly due to the bad calls from the refs (or should I say Reps?) There is some talk of stating instant replay (Lawyers for Ron Paul), but some people are saying it won't happen. The fans had really been supporting the delegates (even buying them pizza and much more), but now it seems like no one is thinkinf oe the big play off game! They are talking about next season, although there may be a strike and even less important things. Maybe we should do some more work with the coaches delegate plan. 1)We should work to get instant replay (L4RP).
2) Reach out to non Ron Paul delegates going to Tampa.
3) Get the important players (plans) out of physical therapy and onto the playing field (bump).
4) Get the fans cheering and pray for a few Hail Mary passes.
With something this important we should never give up until all options are over (Tampa).

"Never In It o Win"

Ask yourself why there is still $3 million in our donation money sitting there.

Ask yourself why we never even issued a challenge for a single debate to Romney after there were just the two candidates.

Ask yourself why we never ran ONE SINGLE really hard-hitting attack ad on this dude and his dozens of serious Constitutional violations, personal evil deeds, etc.

Ask yourself why we will now have only four states in our win column.

Ask yourself why we bailed at PRECISELY THE HIGH WATER MARK (with the wins that were snatched back from us) on May 14th two days after the state conventions in AZ and OK.

Ask yourself why Trygve Olson is still taking YOUR MONEY.

Stop spamming this everywhere.

I've seen it at least 3 times now!


Ron Paul did not write this

His ghostwriters are horrible and his campaign clearly contains saboteurs at high levels. It's a shame. (Not just referring to this letter either. This has all been evident for a long time now.)

Why Is This On The Front Page

If it has this many downvotes? Seems kinda strange to me.

Because its bad news

from Ron Paul and the campaign.

Stop -1ing Humility

Dr. Paul has always been humble, realistic, but also optimistic & hopeful. We see that four-way mix of attributes on display.

  • Steady, easy does it.
  • Realistically, here's what looks achievable.
  • BUT, what's achievable can have a long-term impact.
        (...and Paul has always played the long game!)
  • AND, here's why it can matter (the end-result).

That's what a statesperson and a leader should do. Not "hope and change", "fired up", "we are the change we've been waiting for", *insert platitude ad nauseum*, but rather laying out a ground game, acknowledging the outcome, and the plotting a course to maximize the return and show appreciation for those who stuck with him/her along the way!

Thank you for pointing that out. The skeptism and

and outright paranoia is becoming obnoxious, even after Michael Nystrom posted himself stating the email has been verified.


something to remember!

1 of 3 things have happened in my opion.

1. ron paul has been threatened ...him...his family or something.

2. they threatened that his supporters could be hurt...arrested under NDAA and detained as terrorist under the many of "their" definitions of a domestic terrorist! (in tampa)

3. is that ron paul doesnt want to actually become president but just thought he needed to wake up the nation and start a movement to bring about change...even if he made nominee and potus...he would be in more danger being under the protection of the ones he has exposed and caused trouble for...this would really jepordize his and familes safety.

i want to add this and this is unlikely..they might of said listen...you made your point...what do you want?? what can we do to get you and your supporters off our back...and ron paul knowing that he can get a few things now like audit the fed and this will all snowball and become bigger than anyone expected. like rand endorsing romney to "play nice" but gets right in there and pushed audit and other bills.

in my opinion he is a messanger ...and he did his job ...he did what he felt he had to do for his country short of coming potus ...where he would have a hard time getting anything done at this time knowing it is a controlled potition...he expects us to carry on his message and the revolution...tho im afraid the peaceful type will come to an end soon!

or i could be completly wrong and ron paul has a whopper up his sleeve!

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves...the land of liberty needs a regime change!

Well Then, Why Doesn't He Tell Us The Truth...We Need To Know

these things, so we could do something about it or at least understand why these wierd things have happened. But by just keeping quiet doesn't serve his interest or ours..Look, we are going to die anyway, why don't we at least speak the truth to one another so there is some kind of understanding between the supporters and the campaign..

Look, if he was threatened or his family and him, eventually the new World Order is going to continue their movement for word control and we are all going to die eventually by their hand anyway. We may as well go down fighting like men, not like mice..This makes no logical sense..

Are we cowards? Afraid to speak the truth? Man, I hope your wrong about the one of three possibilities..That is the wrong way to look at life..

That's my .02 cents..

Those of you who are disappointed..DON'T BE, we're not finished!

I am incredibly happy that there are so many like minded folks out there! Let's fight for our Country!! Here is something I wanted to share with you all. Please spread the word as still there are so many people who just "don't get it"

Okay, so let me clear things up; with a little more research and discussion this is what we have come up with thus far. According to the real count of wins which you can count for yourself here at http://​thereal2012delegatecount.com/​using-joomla/extensions/​components/content-component/​article-category-list/​71-sources.....Paul has won the plurality in 7 states being COLORADO, IOWA, LOUISIANA, MAINE, MASS, MINN, and NEVADA.
USA Today, MSNBC and Rachel Maddow Show along with other sites, blogs, news, etc were all reporting that Nebraska was the 'make it or break it' for Ron Paul, that is not the case apparently as you ONLY need 5 states, and according to our findings Paul has 7 states. Now the question remains...why isn't anyone speaking out against this ESPECIALLY the Ron Paul Campaign...our thoughts are that the Paul Campaign are playing a strategic game of chess, and keeping these things hush hush until Tampa where we will drop the hammer. I believe it is all about stategy, and there is still much hope! So I encourage everyone to please do more research and add anything you find to my site, message me, post it. Thank you. RON PAUL 2012!

Also if you want to follow our Ron Paul Tampa Rally please like our FB page at:

This is simply not true

Ron Paul has put out numerous EMails in which he has publically conceded the election, and more importantly has also disavowed any interest in having his name placed into Nomination (regardless of what his supporters hope for).

So even if Ron Paul had a plurarity in 10 States, all indications are that Ron Paul would himself choose to be the graceful loser, and allow Mitt Romney to be Coronated without controversy, and without ever presenting himself as a competitor.

The truth is that he simply never wanted to actually be President.

He just wants to give speeches to College-kids, sell books, go on a few Financial-talk-shows and lament the Federal Reserve, and hope to get other people interested in those issues. But the truth is, he never once faced-down Mitt Romney and really tried to take him down -- unlike his approach with Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich and Bachmann and Perry. He never wanted to bring down Romney.

I think Ron Paul always really wanted Romney to be the Nominee. That is the only thing that can explain: a) why he Campaigned so aggressively against all the other GOP opponents, and b) why he ran such a lame, aimless, NON-campaign against Mitt Romney (never challenging him), and then immediately shut-down everything three-months ago at the peak of his popularity, and finally c) why his son was so at peace with endorsing his father's opponent -- that he did it very early, and long before the Tampa Convention.

Do the math here guys. It's time to think about putting all this energy behind Gary Johnson. He is out there, and still Campaigning for real. And he won't shrink and duck-away-from from taking-on Mitt Romney.

operation Cold Water

Message to Ron Paul

Lead. Follow. or get the HE double hockey sticks out of the way.

Ron. You are just a messenger. Don't try to be who you are not.

Let your true volunteers run this campaign for you for free. You do not need a national campaign.

It sound like a Ron Paul traitor was in charge in Nebraska. Controlled opposition we call them. People planted, who say they are Ron Paul, con the leadership (National Campaign) to run the state. Then at the last minute cut the throat of the whole Nebraska Ron Paul movement.

Point. Harder to control district conventions got some Ron Delegates. Easy to control single state convention gives electronic vote, no slate offered at all, other room secret counting, and supposedly a trusted campaign Ron Paul "leader" there to witness the count.

There are traitors in your midst Ron Paul, and you picked them.

All, I can say is that you act like your family has been threatened, by the PTB. If so, let it go, and let the millions of Your supporters do their job. Better to do nothing, then the damage you are creating with these milk toast recent messages.

You will know them by their fruits, the Bible says. Trust is earned. As President, I hope you pick better people, or not at all, and just do everything yourself. We trust you, not the people around you.

Glad you are concerned about the 'traitors' within paul's circle

paul needs to purge those people asap. i am not sure why he hasn't done it or perhaps he doesn't really know. unfortunately, your message to ron paul will not reach him.

many rp supporters are just not concerned about those traitors, and regard them highly and are at their beck and call, and defend those traitors at all costs. infact, they are very loyal to those traitors and put paul second.
traitors include wead, who is a co-opted pathetic liar that works for establishment in conning young, naive supporters. others are those mentioned by antiwar.com, like tate and olson.


That's got Jesse Benton

and associates written all over it. We all know Ron Paul will never abstain from bashing the wars. These campaign guys are really tacky. Ron has not been afraid to speak out against the wars - EVER. So why would he stop now?

listen freedom fighters

hey, Ron Paul will always be remembered as the man who was the first face of the liberty movement. i recommend that we honer Ron Paul with getting his face on mount Rushmore somehow. but i want to remind you all that we have had so much success under Ron Paul leadership and we will carry the fight on for the Thomas Jefferson of this era. we need to realize that this movement was never about Ron Paul. it was always about the unbreakable strength we have collectively in pursuit of our freedoms and political views we share. in times like theses we have to accept that every battle wont be won,but as long as we stand together united we will win the war.

This Is A Crying Effing Shame...So We Just Lay Down And Take

the Coronation of that SLEAZY piece of filth, ROMULAN?.... NEVER!

Ron Paul has lost his genitanalia! What ever happened to the guy who told that FATTY on The Morton Downy Show back in 1988 that he could stand to lose a few pounds?

What has happened to my hero? I am about ready to crawl into a corner and cry my head off.

I am so very frigging hurt and disappointed..

This is simply DEVASTATTING to my entire being..

Ron Paul, the only guy I loved and respected in the world of politics has gone SOFT, with the "DON'T MAKE WAVES ATTITUDE"

How about all the waves he made in the congress, fighting the establishment tooth and nail for 30 effing years...

Jesus Christ!

Has someone come along and bewitched him...DID SOMEONE PUT A EFFING SPELL ON HIM?

This doesn't sound like the like Ron Paul I thought I knew..

Just FRIGGING hopeless..

SCREW IT I have nothing more to say today.. after all, what do you expect from me...After all, it is SATURDAY..!!

It appears by the tone of the email, Ron Paul doesn't want to take any blame for any of us who engage in a physical FREE FOR ALL should one happen in Tampa. If that is the reason why that effing email was sent out, then I could understand that HE doesn't want his LEGACY TO BE TARNISHED OR DAMAGED by being known as the man who encouraged VILENCE as a solution to any problems at the RNC.


SO... don't make waves! CODE for DON'T start fights or retaliate should THEY ATTEMPT TO KICK YOUR FRIGGIN A#SSES....

Screw that! Do you think the founders would have just lied down and stayed in the "BEST BEHAVIOR MENTALITY" NO FRIGIN WAY!


I'm not going to lie down and get my FRIGGIN AS#S kicked by anybody and I would encourage others to be on guard for anyone ATTEMPTING to "SCREW" with our delegates in any kind of PHYSICAL WAY....



What did Bernanke

say to Ron Paul that morning a few weeks ago when they had breakfest?

Also why are we auditing and ending the Fed when their charter is up in 2013?

This never made sense to me.

We do know that Timothy Geithner is for globalized banking.

We need to study what Iceland did and make plans to apply it here in the US is whay I feel we need to do next.

Until we rid ourselves of this shadow government by the Banksters that controlls both parties we are sunk.

A President is only a temporary employee of the corporate government and has little power. He takes order from them.

I know exactly how you feel!

The Fed is permanent

This comment came from another thread about the Fed here on the DP [http://www.dailypaul.com/138304/federal-reserve-charter]

Federal Reserve Charter
Submitted by rben on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 13:03. Permalink

I think I found the answer on the 100 year FED charter question.

Look at: https://www.kitcomm.com/showthread.php?t=85432&page=6

Post #54 says the following:

To put this discussion to rest.

The original Federal Reserve Act of 1913 did indeed provide for expiration of the corporate "power" of the twelve Federal Reserve Banks to exist in 20 years from the banks' organization (not the adoption of the Act).

Sec. 4 ... the said Federal reserve bank shall become a body corporate and as such ... shall have power: ... Second. To have succession for a period of twenty years from its organization unless it is sooner dissolved by an Act of Congress, or unless its franchise becomes forfeited by some violation of law. Federal Reserve Act of 1913 (P.L. 63-43, 38 STAT. 251, 12 USC 221).

However, this 20-year corporate life was changed to perpetual in 1927 by Act of Feb. 25, 1927 (44 Stat. 1234) as follows:

Second. To have succession after February 25, 1927, until dissolved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of law.

This is codified in the United States Code, 12 U.S.C. § 341. See http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/us...1----000-.html

This is where it stands today. Each of the U.S. Federal Reserve Banks can only be dissolved by an act of Congress or "forfeiture of franchise for violation of law."

So it looks like the FED got a 20 year charter on 23 dec. 1913 and on 25 feb. 1927, this was changed to perpetual..

The URL of Cornell looks very original.

So the charter is perpetual, or there must be some other change after 1927.

Only an act of Congress can end the FED.


Rene Bense


Blessings )o(

Oh Em..too much drama, my

Oh Em..too much drama, my friend. We fought the good fight and once again have probably lost a battle--no sense in running out and punching noses--I mean, we just regroup, gear up, and turn in a slightly different direction. Then we march on to save this country. Nothing to be mad at nor ashamed. Do not get discouraged. There is nothing to be afraid of except apathy. Crying and tirading is fine for a day. Then..we have MUCH more to gain. The White Hats ALWAYS win, though it may look darned dire before that.

North Carolina has an election coming up Tuesday

North Carolina 7/17/12
Liberty candidates to Vote For:
[] Dan Forrest Lt. Govenor
[] Richard Alexander Sup. Pub. Instr
[] Mike Causey Ins. Comm
[] Scott Keadle House Rep Dist 8
[] Matthew Ridenhour Mecklenburg district 5 Comm
[] Adam Brooks Comm Randolph County District 5 (not sure if the election day is correct for him)
[] Mark Hopp Comm Alamance County

this sounds like bullshit.

this sounds like bullshit.

Last time

I will post this info. Call the Campaing or e-mail them and get in touch with Brian Gentry. That's the person who is in charge of delegate information. I e-mailed him and he wrote me back saying it's true