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Just received an e-mail from Ron Paul... thoughts?

[ Also posted here: http://www.dailypaul.com/244504/did-you-get-this-where-we-st... ]

Dear James,

Just last week, I sent you an email letting you know my staff would be following up with you shortly to tell you everything you need to know about our plans for the Republican National Convention.

My staff has been busy burning up the phone lines, so many of you may have already heard from them.

But because this email is so important, I wanted it to come directly from me.

For several weeks now, I’ve been up front about the fact that Mitt Romney has obtained enough delegates to secure the Republican nomination.

That fact hasn’t changed - and it’s not going to change.

Over the past few weeks, my staff and I have researched the numbers extensively.

We’ve come to the conclusion that even if by some miracle all delegates to the Republican Convention were unbound, I would receive approximately 300 votes at the National Convention - far short of the 1,144 needed to secure the Republican nomination.

It’s also come to my attention recently that many supporters believe a win at the upcoming Nebraska State Convention this Saturday could be an important step for my campaign’s success in Tampa.

While my campaign is hoping to do as well as possible there, I can’t imagine a scenario where my goals or my plans for our R3VOLUTION in Tampa would change. They are:

*** Ensuring as many of my delegates as possible are credentialed.

There are many folks in the GOP who want my supporters to just shut up and go away, and they have resorted to every dirty trick in the book to game the system at various state conventions. You and I must ensure that as many of my supporters as possible are credentialed at the Republican National Convention.

*** Planting our flag.

Just by seeing a flood of my delegates in Tampa, you and I can respectfully send a loud and clear message that we are the future of the Republican Party. Seeing so many new and young faces at the RNC will show that despite their best efforts to maintain their iron grip over the Republican Party, our liberty movement is the future of the GOP;

*** Affecting the Platform.

By fighting for an internet freedom plank, Audit the Fed, and a plank opposing the indefinite detention of American citizens – and perhaps even opposing the so-called “PATRIOT” Act and undeclared war - you and I can prove we are a growing force in the Republican Party and perhaps convince more GOP elected officials to come our way on these critical issues;

As a National Delegate or Alternate, you’ve invested a lot of your time, talent, and hard-earned money into my campaign and our cause of liberty.

For that I am deeply grateful - and I can’t thank you enough.

I’m looking forward to going to Tampa and celebrating the success of my campaign, and more importantly, our bright future.

So if you haven’t yet done so, please CLICK HERE and register as a delegate or alternate so you can be kept up-to-date on our plans in Tampa.

And if you know of any other delegates in your state, please forward this email to them, as well.

I hope to see you in Tampa.

For Liberty,

Ron Paul



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Not much you can do here, I'm afraid

They think if they downvote it enough, it will go away like it never happened. And if you try to point out you are just paying attention and using common sense, they will call you NSA cointelpro or something.

I watched 2 people get tore into on the ustream because they said they heard 23 names being read out, all on mitt slate, before lunch break, when all they had to do is go to the video and see for themselves.

I read there was only one

I read there was only one slate to vote. Ron Paul folks didn't submit one.

So as I understand, 23 delegates go to Romney.

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

Nystrom says its true this email.

The campaign wants us to see this. Ok, here's my feelings, "I'm still not voting for Romney or Obama."

That email is not from Ron

That email is not from Ron Paul. Period. It's a fake.

"Over the past few weeks, my staff and I have researched the numbers extensively.

We’ve come to the conclusion that even if by some miracle all delegates to the Republican Convention were unbound, I would receive approximately 300 votes at the National Convention - far short of the 1,144 needed to secure the Republican nomination."

That is not the way Ron Paul speaks and for those with long memory's, he already addressed this with two numbers. (200 and as many as 500)

Do I smell a Charlie?

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

Definition of "as many as"

I use that term myself extensively in my business - it means anywhere from zero to that number - since Ron Paul set the base at 200 he was saying that if everything broke to his advantage the number could reach as much as 500 - this means that the actual number was expected to end up between 200 and 500 - well 300 is between 200 and 500. I'm sure he is a little disappointed in the final count but I also think that he was pushing his luck with the 500 estimate to fire up his supporters - to keep everyone working until the final campaign event. I disagree with the premise that this email couldn't be from RP, I am 95% positive that this is coming from Ron Paul because it fits what I feel his agenda in Tampa actually is - I don't think he has ever expected to win the nomination - he only got 10.9% of the popular vote in the election - 300 delegates is something like 12-13% of the total delegates - the hard work of his supporters probably doubled the amount of supportive delegates that are going to Tampa - the problem wasn't in the conventions - it was on the various election days when Ron Paul couldn't break out from his base. Like it or not those are the hard, cold facts. Ron Paul did not convince enough people to be the nominee and there was no amount of work and sweat on the part of his base that could offset this very basic fact.

Thanks for a more reasonable

Thanks for a more reasonable response than the other guy. larrry

I agree with most of what you are saying. Here's the quote from Ron Pauls' other email reguarding delegates

"Due to the smart planning of our campaign and the hard work and diligence of supporters like you, we stand to send nearly 200 bound delegates to the Republican National Convention in Tampa. This number shatters the predictions of the pundits and talking heads and shows the seriousness of our movement.

What's more, we will send several hundred additional supporters to Tampa who, while bound to Romney, believe in our ideas of liberty, constitutional government, and a common-sense foreign policy.

When it is all said and done, we will likely have as many as 500 supporters as delegates on the Convention floor. That is just over 20 percent!"

Not the same language.

Another thing, I haven't found anywhere were he says this: "R3VOLUTION in Tampa " I have found only this: "Our Revolution could not have come this far without you." The emphisis on Revolution. I could be wrong, but the former just doesn't seem like Dr. Paul's style in his writing.

Ron Paul has never pulled punches with us. He is the long shot. But even if he doesn't win the nomination, I will not be voting establishment.

Ron Paul or no one at all

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

Correct

This was not written by Ron Paul. Period. It's not his pace, his vocabulary or his language. It's not his spirit driving the words. You know it and I know it. That is infuriating because someone has seized enough power to publish for Ron Paul.

Also, Ron has gone far too quiet the past few months. Even if he thought there weren't enough delegates, wouldn't he still speak publicly as a candidate fairly often? Why would his speaking tours stop entirely after they were drawing 5,000-10,000 viewers? He was electrifying people and then he went silent. If you remember back, his campaign manager released a not that effectively resigned Ron from the presidential race... the weekend after his huge win in Louisiana Delegates.

None of it makes sense, it's not how he would proceed with this. One thing is 100% certain, without a doubt, and it's that Ron Paul did not write this letter.

I can't sit this one out

I voted for Ron Paul in our state primary but I can't sit this election out to vote 3rd Party because Obama is a whole lot worse than almost any politician of either party that you can name - which is why Rand Paul gave Romney his endorsement - not because Romney is his choice but because the alternative is a disaster for freedom. I suspect that many Ron Paul supporters will be surprised by the comments Ron Paul makes during and after the convention - he may not use the term endorse but he will let it be known that Obama is not acceptable - of that I am reasonably sure. I find the comments naive that state wait until 2016 and then we will elect a Liberty candidate after Obama's second term - there will be nothing left of freedom in America if Obama has a second term where he no longer hides his radical views to pander for votes. It will be a disaster - no one is watching the key ball - it is on the regulatory side under the radar where Obama is doing the most damage. Lisa Jadkson, Obama's head of the EPA has already done more damage to America's future than any external enemy ever achieved. The state of the country is not good and if I had to bet - I think that Obama may win and freedom as we know it will end forever.

Again I have to agree. It so

Again I have to agree. It so looks to me as if the GOP has thrown this election to Obama.

2016? Agree again. That is why this primary is so important. Without Ron Paul there is no 2016.

I do not see Romney being any better. If somehow he does win, I think he will pick up were Obama left off. He will use his Bain skills on the country and finish us off.

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

So what you were saying is,

So what you were saying is, this fake e-mail went out yesterday...and then hours later, Ron Paul went on national TV LIVE...knowing that this e-mail went out in his name under false pretenses...and DID NOT ADDRESS IT?

So you think he is a bigger fucking idiot than you are?

I am honestly curious...now that it has been confirmed that he e-mail was real, do you have the integrity to admit you were wrong?

Nahhhh...I didn't think so. I knew you didn't have any integrity. I figured you for a little bitch all along, and I was right.

As for your hilarious final statement...yeah...in the PAST...with several more states left to choose delegates, he had to give a wider range for what he expected to have. But now with pretty much all states chosen, he was able to give a more specific number...and lo and behold, if fell right in between that number!

Hi 1 hour and 8 minutes

Hi 1 hour and 8 minutes larrry,

If it is confirmed, then I will be wrong.

Until then I don't buy it.

Ron Paul the eternal optimist has admitted that his campaign is a long shot, but hey, anything can happen.

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

It HAS been confirmed. See

It HAS been confirmed. See the post above. Call up if you don't believe it.

And again...I see you didn't even try to explain my other point that you are calling Ron Paul a fucking incompetent idiot.

Look...I think we ALL agree with you area fucking worthless waste of humanity., Weill never amount to anything and your family wishes you were dead...right? Well...even YOU would have made it perfectly clear on Neil Cavuto last night that that e-mail didn't dome from you. But Ron Paul didn't. So you are saying that he is even more worthless than YOU are. And that is not physically possible.

If someone is THAT incompetent then why would you want him as president? If he can't handle his own staff of TEN people, then he would be a fucking joke as president. His staff would go behind his back and he would be too much of a fucking pussy to stop them. Because that is EXACTLY what you are saying happened yesterday.

It has been confirmed because

It has been confirmed because two people have said they received an email from Ron Paul? Ok.

I don't doubt that two people received an email. But it wasn't written by Ron Paul.

Ron Paul probably doesn't even know about it.

This may be the first time he hears about it: http://www.dailypaul.com/244653/open-letter-to-ron-paul-re-n...

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

It HAS been confirmed. See

It HAS been confirmed. See the post above. Call up if you don't believe it.

And again...I see you didn't even try to explain my other point that you are calling Ron Paul a fucking incompetent idiot.

Look...I think we ALL agree with you area fucking worthless waste of humanity., Weill never amount to anything and your family wishes you were dead...right? Well...even YOU would have made it perfectly clear on Neil Cavuto last night that that e-mail didn't dome from you. But Ron Paul didn't. So you are saying that he is even more worthless than YOU are. And that is not physically possible.

If someone is THAT incompetent then why would you want him as president? If he can't handle his own staff of TEN people, then he would be a fucking joke as president. His staff would go behind his back and he would be too much of a fucking pussy to stop them. Because that is EXACTLY what you are saying happened yesterday.

Please....stay away from

Please....stay away from sharp objects. You might hurt yourself.

Ok, listen up patriots! We

Ok, listen up patriots! We all knew we had a long shot going in to this mess. Yes...the cards are stacked against us! We know this already. nothing has changed. But sometimes God throws a bone.

Yesterday, my son and his baseball team won a tie breaker end of season game to take last place into the playoffs. They are the underdogs. But they are not going into the playoffs as quitters because you never know what will happen. They never gave up. They lost all season and now they have a chance to win. These are 14 year olds.

Keep on keeping on!

By the way...my son got his first hit of the season also. Right to the first basemen. First basemen DROPPED it and he got on base and advanced someone home.

That is why we run it out!!!

TERRIBLE analogy. Here are

TERRIBLE analogy. Here are better ones...

1. They are running the Boston Marathon. Ron Paul is still in Framingham...several miles outside of Boston. Romney is already on Boylston St. 50 feet from the finish line.

2. They are playing basketball. Romney has a 27 point lead with 41 seconds remaining.

Oh...and your son SUCKS at baseball. But I guess you already know that since after what was apparently an entire season of strike outs, you are excited that he at least HIT the ball..even if it was right to a fielder for what should have been an easy out but turned into an error. (He is still 0 for the season, by the way)

You suck

at communicating!

Just who do you think you are anyway to talk to people here as you do?

Are you even aware that you are being disrespetful and rude.

Please take your garbage esewhere where it will be appreciated ......most likely to the Romney camp! Adios!

No. I'm talking about my own

No. I'm talking about my own son whom I am raising to defend liberty. I have taught him to never give up and always fight the good fight. It was a proud moment for us, my son, the team, and the parents.

I don't mind you being a jerk...I am used to it and deal with people like you all day long. But my analogy hits home. When I see our movement, I see my son and his baseball team.

God bless.

Excellent analogy

Thanks for that wonderful story!

We very often drop the ball in life and someone who is much less in stature and talent will show us a good lesson which we should learn from.
We can ALWAYS learn, and when we are fighting for our very freedoms, we must NEVER, EVER give up!
Also everyone, pray and don't stop praying, NEVER!

God is awesome and can change ANYTHING in a blink of an eye!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

"When I see our movement, I

"When I see our movement, I see my son and his baseball team."

Me too.

Ron Paul is the long shot, but hey, anything can happen.

Romneys' campaign IS wilting.

We will all know AFTER Tampa.

Ron Paul 2012

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

Also...as I am almost in

Also...as I am almost in tears at how someone can be such a jerk...we started out with 18 kids on that damn team. We ended up with 10 kids to end the season! They all quit! My son and the few left stuck it out. Even after the kids who thought they were too good for the team left. They won this last game without them.

My son is my world.

I cannot believe people in this world are so ugly and cruel. Good for you asshole.

I find this difficult

to believe this is a RP email.

This email is flat out WRONG in content.

WRONG
WRONG
WRONG

This is not an email RP would send out. YOU SIR HAVE BEEN PUNKED. THIS EMAIL IS CIRCULATING TO DISCOURAGE DELEGATES.

DO NOT Believe this email

Keepin' it real.

DON'T MISS THE POINT!

All of you that think 300 delegates isn't enough to win the nomination, you're correct. But what you're not considering is that if Ron Paul gets on the ballot, he will get a 15 minute speech that I'm sure will be nothing short of amazing at the National Convention. With his name on the ballot and a spotlight on him for a big speech, many of those folks who never liked Romney to begin with might be inspired to check the box next to Ron Paul instead. People could change their mind and vote their conscience! Especially in light of the fact that Romney is considered picking Condi Rice for his VP. Unbelievable. ANYTHING can happen at the National Convention. Don't forget Warren Harding, folks. Look him up if you don't know the story. He walked into the convention with less than 10 percent of the delegates but walked away with the nomination. DON'T GIVE UP

Really?

Mitt Romney will have 1500-1600 establishment delegates in Tampa - these are people whose rice bowls are tied to the establishment - they have positions within the party for which their loyalty is expected - These people by and large have heard Ron Paul speak before and it hasn't mattered to them up to now - are you really so naive that you think a 15 minute speech would be enough to inspire hundreds of party insiders to commit career suicide to support Ron Paul? - you know nothing about politics if you think this could happen - if he could inspire 50 to do so it would rank as the best speech of Ron Paul's long career. I don't think he can inspire one to take this leap.

Any time someone brings up

Any time someone brings up Warren Harding, they show they have no ability for rational thought.

The primary rules were VERY different then. There were at least SIX candidates still in the race, with the leading one having less than 600 delegates. In other words, there is absolutely no comparison to 2012.

This is like comparing a college basketball players points in a season to an NBA player's points in a season. Forget the fact that they played 50 more games in the NBA! They are both basketball! So it MUST be valid!

I'll

BUMP this one.

There is no time for any future political games. I'm afraid it is NOW OR AFTER SOME BIG MESS WITH A LOT OF CASUALTIES.

Dr. Paul's ongoing defeatism re. possibility of being elected...

... while there is still time on the clock, means in process, damaging/ruinous news against Romney and a God who rules in the affairs of men, is presumptuous, defeatist, untimely and unhelpful.
... It appears clear that, even if, by a miracle (which could happen by one of multiple means), Dr. Paul was to be nominated, win the nomination (and then the election) it appears he and the "official" campaign is in no state of mind/preparation to accept and walk through an open door to the presidency.
... There is zero possibility of winning if one doesn't want to win or has already accepted defeat before the end of the game.
... I am frankly amazed at the defeatism in the name of Dr. Paul pushing practical politics.
Different topic, but important... One thing is for sure, IF Ron wins (even against his will, and turned to accept the challenge), he certainly will need a better core staff and leadership of same) to have decent day to day operations in the executive office. Just pointing out the obvious.

Ron Paul 2012
The Champion of the Constitution

At the cross Jesus Christ defeated sin, death, hell, and the new world order.
C’mon boys, let’s take the plunder!

Romney to be stripped of delegates within24 hours??

"Within 24 hours you will know our plan is working - the candidates will come to strip Romney of his delegates and push Romney below 1144." --Richard Gilbert via Twitter

WOAH!

above is a twit from Head lawyer for Ron PauL

This is not Ron Paul's lawyer

It is evident that Ron Paul and all those close to him want zero to do with Richard Gilbert so as a matter of human decency don't link a good and decent man like Ron Paul with a bottom feeder like Richard Gilbert. Ron Paul doesn't want his name and legacy smeared by this man so kindly never refer to him as Ron Paul's attorney because it is not true.