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SURIYAHFISH - Live Stream - Nebraska Republican Convention - July 13-14

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Ms. Suriyah Fish and the Liberty Live Stream Team have arrived in Grand Island, Nebraska. The Team is working now in Grand Island, Nebraska to achieve operational status and begin their Live Streaming video broadcast of the opening events associated with the Nebraska Republican State Convention. We are working to launch the first Live Stream broadcast at ~ 5:00PM CST, Friday, July 13, 2012. Please join the LLST in our chat room and accept our invitation to participate in our channel’s social stream at:

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Well Stated

Keep our cross hairs focused on the real target - the actual source of foolish coercion.

Of course, the way you hit this target has tons to do with convincing others in a political rebellion against the status quo. The process is long and slower than we'd like. But the stage is set for further gains as the ultimately meaningless political poker game of our 'two party system' rolls on.

To Nebraska leaders:

I would be very interested to know if a Demetri Kasari (sp?) was involved with the Paul Campaign campaign there. Thank you

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TenBobnote, how can I contact you?

I just messaged you

I just messaged you

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NEBRASKA ENDS THE PRIMARY SEASON WITH A THUD!!!

Well it was a very long shot anyway, but securing only 2 out of 32 delegates for Ron Paul in the Cornhusker State is categorical a failure by any measure.

The local Nebraska Republican Liberty Caucus said they had everything under control, a plan, and things would be fine.

Well, the results speak for themselves. At least they have plenty of our contributed funds left over, for their future Liberty activities, as they will only have to help fund two delegates to travel to Tampa.

5 weeks to go until the Tampa Convention and one final time to thank Ron Paul for all of his efforts to help grow and the Liberty Movement.

After Tampa FL it will be time to move beyond the Paul Family and concentrate on electing Liberty Candidates at all levels of the political spectrum from President to City Council. We have a lot of work to do in the next four months!!

Oh Well - Good try NE RP Supporters!

Stay involved and don't lose focus over the next four years. I have really enjoyed the posts here in DP and making comments. I'm voting for Johnson!

working towards something

working towards something often means 2 steps back... it's a consistent willingness to put one step forward that makes all the difference.... said another way...

The Road Not Taken
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim
Because it was grassy and wanted wear,
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I marked the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I,
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

I have found libertarians don't like a cluttered path anyway... the road to tampa has the better claim...

Nebraska Delgate here

Their is two things that stopped us today in Nebraska.

One not all the State elected Ron Paul Delegates showed up!!! very disappointing considering they took they time to get elected to this position then don't show up to the BIG GAME!!!

Second the NE GOP included the Mitt Romney Slate seaparetly on the actual election ballot and took the time to beat it into all the establishments heads to follow the slate. The only thing to NE GOP didn't do for all the Sheeple was to actually fill out the ballot for them.

(their excuse for this is they offered both Ron Paul and Mitt Romney campaign to list their slates on the ballot, Ron turned it down and mitt accepted.... This is the first time ever this has happened ... makes me sick)

Good Job!

You guys worked hard for all of us to be free. I will not blame the delegates that didn't showed up either, because I can imagine how discouraging it is when a letter is posted at the daily paul saying that Ron Paul won't get the nomination or that Nebraska will make no difference. Also the intimidation used by these criminals with other conventions will take the desire for many to even continue. For that reason if you went to the NE convention. GOD bless you.

Reason for loss?

First read Rob's comment below.

The reason why NE lost wasn't because Paul delegate's didn't show up. They did, and as said below they were outnumbered.

Once again the NE governor desperately needed a Mitt Romney delegation in Tampa and once the media began to work this story into the chattering classes he started to work overtime to convince possible groups that could have been swayed to vote for the Paul delegates (tea party groups, other anti-establishment groups), to vote for the Romney slate. The NE-RLC was offered a chance to make a Paul slate on the voting sheet, but since they didn't have a clear majority that would have turned off the possible groups they were trying to coalition with in the first place.

With that said, I am looking forward to working in the party to continue the fight for liberty in the future. Our revolution is more than a 15 min Paul speech in Tampa.

The failure of some of Ron's

The failure of some of Ron's delegates to appear at state convention is probably due to two factors:

1. Failure of the liberty caucus and Ron's state coordinator to ensure attendance of Ron's delegates.
2. The seemingly intentional sabotage of state conventions by bizarrely timed e-mails discouraging Ron's supporters from someone within his campaign. Ron needs to be held accountable for these latter acts especially. Personally, if I were a delegate to Tampa, I'd skip Ron's speech and rally in protest of Ron's apparent failure to replace certain members of his staff. As an alternative, I'd attend the PaulFest.

Tragic ... Well, we now simply must rely on our delegates to express their great displeasure with the RNC in Tampa and attempt to enter Ron's name into nomination somehow. There's enough fraud to go around to twist some arms. ;)

No Fraud. No cheating. We just lost, fair and sqare.

I observed the NE convention today in person as a guest. I've been a member of this site for over 5 years, and I've got no reason to hide anything, since I don't have a dog in this particular fight. If there was cheating, fraud, or if someone had screwed up, I'd call them out on it (none of that happened). If you want to know what actually happened, here it is.

1 - Only 40% of the delegation were "Paul" delegates. There wasn't a majority, or even close to a majority, so there were significant limits on what could be accomplished. Plus, because the RNC / Romney campaign knew what the numbers were, they were very well prepared and made effective use of their voting bloc.

2 - Almost every Paul delegate won at the county conventions showed up today. The problem, however, was that due to the huge amounts of media attention this event has garnered over the last couple of weeks, the Romney delegates also showed up in force. Had more of them stayed home, which has happened in other states, this would have been a different story.

3 - There were no "electronic" voting machines. There were paper ballots that were counted by a mechanical "scantron" machine. The entire process was very carefully monitored by campaign officials from both sides as well as volunteers, and no irregularities were noted. There was no fraud here.

4 - Laura Ebke and her people did a commendable job - they were organized and had a good plan in place that gave them the best possible chance for a positive outcome. The simple fact of the matter is that they just didn't have the numbers to be successful. The other side turned out their delegates just as well as they did, and at the end of the day the there was more for Romney than there were for Paul. The unfortunate results aside, this was one of the cleanest, most well managed, and transparent conventions I've seen.

In the immortal words of Paul Harvey, "now you have the rest of the story".

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Yup. Even having 45% of the delegation was not enough in a

place like MT. It was due to hard work that Ron Paul supporters could send in 40% - 45% of delegation to state conventions, when, in general, only 14% of Republicans are for RP.

***We just need MORE of the population to understand and vote for liberty.***

We came a long way since 2008, thanks to Dr. Ron Paul. If we want to obtain a decisive power to rule, we simply need more of us.

We tried to tell you guys,

We tried to tell you guys, optical scanners can be hacked and preprogrammed to count the way they want.

http://youtu.be/rBO9EyF2tNU

They can be opened without the seal on them even being broken.

http://youtu.be/R5yH78elt7I

By tampering with the ballots themselves, ie erasing the lines next to the RP delegates, they can skip counting them.

http://youtu.be/R5yH78elt7I

Blessings )o(

scantrons are easy

At least, the kind that are in use in schools across the country are. On those, there is a specific place you fill in one of the spaces and it tells the machine that the slip is a key and to score all subsequent ones in accordance. Reason I know is because one student in biology class did that and screwed up several people's test results. Teacher caught it because several students that normally made A's suddenly made D's and F's.

Anything can be hacked. Paper

Anything can be hacked. Paper ballots aren't really better or worse - if someone is intent on cheating, they will find a way.

The NRLC estimated they had about 140 delegates at the convention. That number was confirmed during the procedural votes that took place when a manual count was taken. The numbers in the delegate voting also matched up.

There just wasn't anything hinky going on that would give anyone reason to question the results. It was pretty obvious from where I was watching.

How come I keep hearing

There wasn't even a ron paul slate. And what about the pin that some were wearing was there anything to that? They did not need 2/3rds all they needed was 1/3rd plus one vote to stop them in their tracks.

Thanks Rob!

:)

Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie

what happened to the significant minority?

On Friday we were hearing how we had a significant minority...

Do you know what an "assumptive close" is? We need to

do this. We own Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Oklahoma, and Iowa. Those are OUR STATES. Our job is to find the chairs for those states in TAMPA and SIT DOWN IN THOSE CHAIRS.

Asking "permission from the GROWN-UPS" makes us look like amateur fools.

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

What you did is "play nice" and you lost because you

played nice with people that were not going to play nice with you. I don't care that you didn't have the majority. You had strategic advantages that you did not use well before the convention. You also did not want to listen to anybody else. Well, guess what! When you're in that tough of a situation you need all the help that you can possibly get. And, you refused it. What can I say? You had an electronic balloting system that you should have known was going to sink you and you should have taken steps well prior to the convention to put a stop to it.

betty

Amen Betty! We should play hard and fair, but hard.

Monica Serrano switched sides after telling everyone to go along to get along.

Many, who we thought were our friends were not so obvious... but most told us to "play nice"... and then we lost because we were too buddy, buddy with the opposition.

Also, I know many on our side in my own state they did not even attend because they DID NOT want to play nice.. they wanted to play to win and were not happy to just sit there and clap for the dog and pony shows.

We lost many conventions because we accepted in advance from the TV that it was us and not them that were breaking the rules and causing trouble. They broke the rules repeatedly, even when we played nice.

NO MORE NICE GUY!

We Play Nice, Then They Kick Us In The Balls!!!

Bullsh#it!

This is freaking war. We have to stand up to the GD bulllies. If a bully comes up to you and kicks you in the balls, are you just going to take it?

Maybe that fool Jesse Benton, that wimp likes taking a pounding, but I hope WE don't think like that "THE IDIOT BROTHER IN LAW"

Screw Jesse Benton and the defeatist MF attitude! I say, if they kick you in the balls, kick them in the balls 7 times 7!

Caio..

It's okay to play nice before

It's okay to play nice before a competition, or in this case a race.
And, it's okay to play nice after. But when it's on, it is a race, a competitive event, and people had better have their game faces on.
You don't wave at the runner next to you that tried to trip you, as you pass him by on the track. You just blow by him.

These delegates had better remember what is was like to play competitive sports, or whatever, and their tunnel vision back and their adrenaline cranking, and keep it that way until someone breaks the tape at the convention.

Play by the rules, but don't make nice with the competition, ever, until it's over. Making nice costs the edge it takes to win.

RON PAUL 2012 * Restore America * Bring The Troops Home
http://www.texasuncensored.blogspot.com

Sounds like the same story in

Sounds like the same story in every state. We may have had more numbers, this time around, but compared to 2008, I feel like we didn't even really try to win this nomination. We didn't actively campaign for our delegates or even our ideas this time around. The commercials were nothing more than attack ads. In CO, our state coordinator was actually having people vote for Santorum delegates.

The real problem is, nobody wants to waste their time in the Republican party if they can't simply be who they are. It was hard enough getting people into it, to begin with. But there's no holding them together now. You can't build a sneaky movement to take over the party because sneaks will never have the numbers.

Play nice?

Hi there,

I think we should be as corrupt as they are to win, maybe even more. Sometimes we must become a devil to beat one. Once our people are in office we can forget about the backroom deals we've made and do what we want to do. When you are trying to change the course of our country that will eliminate people in power, we are going to make enemies. Another question is it even corruption anymore if everyone else is doing it?

A very wise lady once told me: In life, you don't "get what is

coming"... Instead, you 'claim what is YOUR'S" and that is what our team should be doing.

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

Another Addition To The Lawsuit

All the documented acts of fraud and reasonable suspicions need to be documented and sent to the Lawyers For Ron Paul.

Fish Family

Thank you for going through that dissapointing convention. I, and probably others, appreciate that you spent the time to drive all the way to NE and then back home. I hope there will be other chances for you all to Ustream again.