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SURIYAHFISH - Live Stream - Nebraska Republican Convention - July 13-14

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Ms. Suriyah Fish and the Liberty Live Stream Team have arrived in Grand Island, Nebraska. The Team is working now in Grand Island, Nebraska to achieve operational status and begin their Live Streaming video broadcast of the opening events associated with the Nebraska Republican State Convention. We are working to launch the first Live Stream broadcast at ~ 5:00PM CST, Friday, July 13, 2012. Please join the LLST in our chat room and accept our invitation to participate in our channel’s social stream at:

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Constitutional Amendment: no voting machines

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SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

Constitution? What's that?

Constitution? What's that?

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution

Really...

How can the liberty movement there only manage to get 2 of our guys in, hell, throughout the whole country, in worst conditions, we got more!! How can you sabotage this by refusing help from within the same movement?!!! Damn disappointed in nebraska now, really disapointed, there isnt even a justifiable reason for this...wow

Two Words for this

Gary Johnson

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Seems to me a Obama vote

Seems to me a Obama vote would be better... Then we can put Ron or another Liberty Candidate up in 4 years....

That is what Preibus and the

That is what Preibus and the GOP want you to do. They don't want Romney. It is all about dirty politics.

Ben Swann

I hope Ben Swann can did up enough dirt on Mitt to totally dis-credit the O'Romney team.

Joined the Liberty Movement in Anchorage, Alaska, 1977. Ron Paul supporter since 1983.
In Liberty from the Pacific Northwest.

If Romney wins the Nomination Obama wins..see you in 4 years ;)

“(IF)” Romney wins the nomination? it’s a giving. Obama will win again! but this can be positive and allow us the fight back in 4 years instead of 8 years under RNC regime.

Remember in 2008 Republicans lost to Obama and the Ron Paul Revolution Exploded with new supporters by the millions....imagine what we can do next...

But coming back to reality...Ron Paul will win the nomination since we have over 5 states plurality! do not be fooled!

RNC still waiting for 7 states with official numbers!

Go Ron Paul

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SteveMT's picture

Nebraska just sealed their deal with the devil, just disgusting.

What is left for us to do is to expose Romney for what he is, and to get him out or to quit, IMO. There are too many skeletons in his closet. We are not republicans. We owe nothing to the republican party. Our allegiance is to the Constitution, not to these people.

We've just been formally disenfranchised from the republican party. There will be no nomination of Ron Paul made at the national convention. There will be no speech by Ron Paul in Tampa.

I would say that we have been disenfranchised by the republicans.

Nothing to do but laugh at this point.

The liberty crowd is going into meetings with Al Capone and his lieutenants and telling them we'd like to take away their counterfeiting operation and defund their hitmen, drug trafficking and child abuse rackets.

Big surprise, the voting machines and backroom deals turn up a Romney sweep.

We should be happy that the establishment reps didn't just beat the Ron Paul people to death with baseball bats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHH9EYZHoVU

Bats swing both ways you know

Bats swing both ways you know

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution

Nope but they sure kept those

Nope but they sure kept those troubled Ron Paul folks in line! All they had to do was turn the heat up a bit and threaten them with heightened security. That'll keep em quiet!

We might have deserved to lose Nebraska (hear me out):

I saw people on the DailyPaul asking how we can help. I saw posts saying: "We don't need people from other states coming in to help, we know what we're doing. Please do not harm our chances of winning."

I saw posts of people offering suggestions of how to prevent fraud, how to keep it fair, etc. I saw posts of people offering advice based on what happened in their own state's convention.

Myself and others said that it should have been a COMPLETELY OBVIOUS red-flag that they were going to be using electronic voting machines. We told them to vote to count the ballots openly, instead of using the machines. I feel like they just ignored all of our input, and failed us as a result.

It was their call

They had a plan, no matter how well/poorly it turned out, and they didn't feel like the type of outside help being offered was going to align with their plan. The only time they asked for help was to the campaign early this year, which was mostly ignored. I think as disappointing as it may be right now, we have to respect their efforts, and their decision to take what they had and go for it.

Crying about these 'voting machines' is bullshit. They were scantrons that read paper ballots with multiple people watching them at all times. Whenever something goes our way, we can't cry fraud just because we may have seen it happen somewhere else. In this case, the other side put more butts in seats, plain and simple. If you don't like it and want to do something about it, don't go cry to some lawyer, move your asses to Nebraska.

Agreed. Hopefully they know

Agreed. Hopefully they know now. Now it's time for them to take over open seats so this doesn't happen again.

They should have been able to do a lot more with %40 delegates. I did in my county convention with just 20 people. We didn't all walk away as delegates but we all became alternates plus we ruled out the unfair rules and voted out the chosen slate. It was great! We made some noise and people even congratulated us!

Btw...we had something like a

Btw...we had something like a 3 or 4 hundred people at our county convention. That's twenty people out of that entire convention!

Did Nebraska put up any kind

Did Nebraska put up any kind of fight ? Did they motion anything in our favor? With that many people they should have walked away with more than 2 delegate.

Nope. Remember-they had that guy with them from the campaign

That guy talking yesterday on the Skype who spoke before Dr. Paul. He said they would put up a fight if they got pushed around.
Lara said to let them do things their way,the Nebraska Way, and all outside meddlers were doing them harm.

I am sad that they refused

I am sad that they refused outside help. More co.uld have been done here.

Moving on...

Not really......

Not really......

Why? What were they afraid

Why? What were they afraid of? I get trying to be friendly but was there any kind of a back up plan if things were starting to go south? Did they really think the other team would give them an inch?

Out numbered... Not enough RP people

Tried to seat RP alternates at the start.. Lost... All Romeny alternates... Just not enough RP...

Bull! Why not demand a hand

Bull! Why not demand a hand count. Those numbers do not represent.

This was a real count....

This was a real count.... Stand and counted... We did not have a majority by any means. More people far stood for Romney alternates. (alternates being seated for the no shows).

Who knows maybe after lunch the electronic total will be challenged. IMO this was the best organized state convention this cycle (I mean best organized GOP). Maybe only Illinois being better.... I didn't say fair.... Nebraska had every I dotted and T crossed to be sure they won. Much like Illinois where you couldn't get Lincoln elected today without the masters approval.

Nonsense... read the rules! Why did they not fight?!

Any votes to alter rules regarding electing, voting, or speeches, REQUIRES a 2/3 majority! With the numbers in NE the convention could have been shut down for hours, until most the Romney folks had to go home and take their meds!

More than 1/3 majority on the floor means no rules can be passed since passage requires 2/3 when the rules have anything to do with manner of voting or speeches!

Apparently the RP campaign, possibly, just like in Washington State, helped betray the grassroots, and told the RP folks to sit on their hands and not 'disrupt' by fighting for the rules! The grassroots were betrayed in Washington State by a few who made deals for spots to national! The deal was, let them violate the rules! It was possibly the same person from the campaign (a Jed?) who was there and collaborated in this betrayal!

Looks like the same shutdown of RP grassroots has been effected in NE! They had the 1/3 needed to shut down the convention but the campaign possibly did not want them to do so! Sit on your hands and let them count noses! The whole purpose of a convention is to convince others through speaking... that is why it requires 2/3 majority to alter that purpose... or to alter from a hand counted vote!

The grassroots should have been prepared to use their 1/3 to shut down the convention on every 2/3 standing vote! This, until they either cooperate, or go home giving up the majority, or cheat... the latter being contestable at national credentials!

They apparently did not! Why not?

My relatives and friends will die the faster in immoral wars, and our fruits of labor will be stolen the quicker, if we do not fight and win this time!

For them there is no future election!

For them there is no time or place for 'having fun' at a convention!

Many today around the world dying at the hands of an 'America gone Wild', prayed for victory in NE... and pray for a Ron Paul presidency.

They do not even know what 'having fun' at convention means. I would be ashamed to try to explain! I hate the thought!

Our relatives and friends from Germany and Austria had fun in 1938. They did not in 1945!

By then they had either died, or they had awakened to the reality of what happens to Orwell's 'men in shiny helmets who think in slogans and talk in bullets'!

Frustrating right? We've done

Frustrating right? We've done more in conventions with more stacked against us. What in Gods Green F happened in Nebraska today?

Ok, if you think Nebraska did

Ok, if you think Nebraska did all they could do than I thank you for your effort. The question is...are you going to walk away knowing that YOU did all YOU could do?

I organized the effort in my county with no experience. My county is known to be one of the toughest counties in my entire state. After working tirelessly, all I could come up with was 20 RP delegates. But we marched in their and shook the place up! We managed to all get alternate spots plus voted out the chairman, change a bunch of rules, and threw out the chosen slate even after we were all touted as infiltrators and democrats. That was 20 people out of 3 or 4 hundred.

That is Quite Remarkable

Exactly what county in exactly what state did this miracle happen? - and did you do this before or after you walked on water?