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Has Ron Paul researched 9-11? Something doesn't feel right.

If you know about 9-11, ask your self why EVERY congressman is not up in arms, literally.

Can anyone help me wrap my mind around Dr. Paul's inattention to this issue? I can only imagine threats. Am I missing something? I know he knows.

That's the post, stop here if you know steel buildings don't just fall down.

In the interest of not having to listen to nonsense concerning this matter:

If you are going to tell me 9-11 was not an inside job, save your breath.

Unfortunately you are "steel is really hard, stiff, and heavy as fuck" challenged. Your lack of understanding is glaring, to those who " know a hint about jack shit/steel" . Do some hands on research. Work with steel just once. Kick some plate around. Go pick up a stick of 3/4 inch rebar. Try to bend or break some stock, any stock. THROW some in a FIRE.

If you think those buildings were not demolished, you do not interact with steel often, or closely. Only a profound ignorance of this amazing metal could (honestly) put forward the hypothesis that the buildings "fell" down.

Only blue-tipped wrenches, or thermite/explosives can make steel structures move rapidly.

Yes .(even downward with gravity assisting). That's why they "demolish" them instead of just fill'em with office stuff and set 'em on fire.

Nothing else. Not men, nor machines, nor flying planes of crazy jihad.

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What he does say about it...

...is accomplishing another goal...blowback. He is making people aware that if we keep getting involved in others affairs, things like this will happen. Regardless of what he knows or doesn't...says or doesn't...his approach is making others awake and aware that invading other countries has consequences. And I'm good with that.


Wether Ron Paul beleives 911 is an inside job or not, I prefer him to take the exact stance he does now. I feel that it's a no brainer, and without a doubt that it would be political suicide for him to even go into it. It would be media's golden ticket to dismiss him as a kook for sure.

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Damn ELOQUENT forum. Thank you.

You are SPOT ON

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Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

This argument sucks! Why?

This argument sucks! Why? Because the real argument, the one that can be proved without a shadow of a doubt, is that whatever happened, the Bush administration ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN!

This has been discussed in hearings already. They had the intel and did nothing with it. Moreover, there are witnesses stating that Dick Cheney instructed people to "stand down!"

This is by far the easier argument, but even the Inside Job community wants to either ignore it or talk about very technical issues that just waters down the real argument or convolutes it.

The simple explanation is; yes it was an inside job, they let it happen to make money and to keep American industries working. And with this, I have answered your question. Why aren't Congressmen and Senators up-in-arms about the absurdities surrounding 9/11? Because it was good for business, and Washington is about business.

With regards to Ron Paul, in my opinion, knowing the wisdom and experience that this man has, it's probably a waste of energy for him. Look at America's short history, how many false flags, assassinations, and other atrocities have taken place within its short lifespan and nothing has happened? The govt is very large and very powerful, it has the ability to work magic, and so far has done a brilliant job. 9/11 is just more smoke and mirrors from the great magician....

He's doing his part, IMO

I think he is doing as much as he can, in order to stay serious and focused on his main point.

There are others focused on other areas of the same issue. The whole thing is tied up in one slimy ball of rot. Pull it apart anywhere, and it will be more easily seen to be connected.

The 9-11 method of building collapse is the largest straw man ever assembled, in my opinion, even bigger than the "take guns for the children" straw man. Children are a small sub set of the larger "humanity", why not protect humans? Won't children be protected in that, or aren't they human too?

It is clear that the 9-11 investigation was poorly done, so calling for a new investigation on that basis alone can't be associated with the "kook" factor for the MSM machine.

It's a battle of propaganda too. Almost every massive issue facing America is tied into the same corrupt, slimy mass, and ripping it open anywhere can only help. I think Dr. Paul focuses on an area that has more potential to draw support. Waking people up to the money issues naturally sheds light on the money aspects of many other issues.

Just open the box and see

I stumbled across this link of Ron talking

about 911


(No doubt a member on here.)

I've seen/heard most before and compared to most pols he says much more.

I guess my point is...

I'm not saying Ron should be campaigning to the average guy on the street. He should be locked in a committee room sending out subpoenas, with a national guard or militia, protecting the process. I don't think you have to convince all the dolts out there. I think you HAVE to find a way to do justice. I don't want to talk about it at all. I want to do something about it, but ...

In 1938, Churchill said dictators were afraid of the power of words. "A state of society where men may not speak their minds cannot long endure."


“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed;
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may
come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
― Winston Churchill


“The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law and particularly to deny him the judgement of his peers is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist.”
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I'm saying it's time NOW.

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Trade Tower 7

Building 7 is key for me. If someone can explain how that sucker came down, like it did (from the middle) so far from the other buildings and without being hit, I'll happily throw my tin foil hat in the bin.

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They have made 911 into another

left right paradigm. Look how they used it against Debra Medina when she ran for Governer in Texas. A majority still belive the corporate Rothschild MSM and Rothschild puppet federal government lies and the other part know the truth from the evidence, inside job. Hence a left right paradigm, instead of atacking the evidence of 911 it becomes a contest of two groups like some horse race, or a basket ball game the fans can arm char quarterback and cheer for their side and boo the other.

I think alot of people can agree 911 was mass murder that was not investigated very well with many facts withheld from the public.
We need to have a honest investigation and prosicution of the real criminals. The ones who knew in advance. The ones who made anouncements before the event even occured in the MSM would be a good start, oh and the one who orders to PULL THE BUILDING.



I don't know when you discovered the inconsistancies of the official 9/11 story.
But many of us have been on to it for over 5 years.

It's very simple.

It just doesn't work for any political candidate to focus on it.

It doesn't work.

If you think Ron Paul has a tough time now... it would be even more futile to campaign for liberty if he held onto 9/11 as an inside job.

It just doesn't work.

We can't let our passion and outrage over 9/11 take us out of the national conversation and sideline the freedom movement.

There are so many current issues coming at us everyday with new executive orders and criminal legislation.

We can't afford to allow the opponenet any opportunity to corner us into an argument that requires such indepth discussion.

Timing is everything.

And I agree that America will not move forward until the crime of 9/11 is dealt with.

But we will never get a shot at changing politics from the inside if we cling to the 9/11 issue.

It doesn't work.

The key to defeating the forces behind 9/11 is turning America against the FED/IRS Complex. The private shareholders of the FED are the companies who have made trillions off of 9/11. More importantly they have brought about the death of the Constitution with the after effects of 9/11. This is something we can do by infiltrating the House and Senate...Then we legally end the FED. People will die over this fight so we have our work cut out for us.

When my friends say drop it...

You've been harping for xx years, it was 12 years ago, I ask them what really is more important than justice or freedom, I'm not trying to win an election, i want to live in a country where people don't get away with this kind of travesty. Where people stand up for what's right not what's popular.

But I know what your saying... Sometimes we must compromise for political expediency.

I would counter, maybe if we and he spoke out, and demanded justice, maybe they wouldn't have been able to black him out, and write him off, marginalized yes, but truths don't go away.

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You must have no post high school education. You do know how hot jet fuel burns right? You do know jet fuel was burning inside a building for an hour before the collapse right? You do know these were the tallest structures in NY right? You seem to miss obvious laws of physics and scientific evidence in this matter.

It took nearly an hour before the first building fell. Why is that?

Because the problem isn't one of pure temperature, it is one of HEAT CAPACITY and THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY. You had a plane sitting in a skyscraper for an hour and then the top finally came down into the lower half causing the whole building to come down. No way the heat could dissipate before weakening all the columns near it.

Get some brains. Just because you may have used steel before don't make you an expert in thermodynamics and the laws of physics. Sick of you wacko conspiracy theorists.

Also, to think the gov't has the scope and secrecy to pull this off alone makes it an asinine conspiracy. You fringe loonies need to take off the tinfoil and use some logic and reasoning for once. Yeah, gov't. sucks, WE GET IT. But that doesn't mean they can pull off a massive coverup like 9-11. They fail at running anything, yet you conspiracy nuts think they can pull off a massive operation like 9-11 without anyone knowing about it. Suuuuuure. Someones been watching too many Mission Impossible movies.



Did save your breath...

Not apply to you somehow? I'm not discussing it with the simple minded. The post is about those who are aware of the facts, and what can be DONE. Argue your jet fuel thermal fluff with 1500 architects and engineers, or just go check out the planes organized in those hangers, like every other plane crash, oh that's right, all the evidence is top-secret, and you got me to respond, so who's the idiot? Me for acknowledging your dumbass.
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Sorry JR...

but if you had a post high school education you would know that steel framed concrete buildings do not collapse in the way the WTC towers did.
Jet fuel, which after all, is only kerosene,does not burn at temperatures that liquify steel for weeks on end as shown by the NASA heat maps of ground Zero.
The sooner you wake up to the fact that you have been lied to about the events of 9/11 the sooner America will become a better place to live, as will the rest of the world.


It always amazes me when some basement dweller with a keyboard and web connection calls people idiots who don't believe in Popular Mechanics and NIST Fairy Tales.

Your insults reveal your ignorance.

Hello, Einstein.

Hello, there.

Most of the jet fuel burned upon impact, so you have little worry about burning jet fuel weakening a steel structure that was purposely built to withstand airplanes crashing into it.

So the "jet fuel culprit kindergarten theory" went up in smoke - or rather - a fireball...

...within seconds. http://www.ae911truth.org/

Come back after you graduate from elementary school.

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moment of truth--

it's obvious JFK's assassination was an inside job--

why didn't the presidents who followed JFK say anything? For those of *you* who believe Reagan was an honest man, why didn't Reagan?

Because it was a conversation killer; it was the kind of thing you just didn't say, even if it was true--

9/11 is in the same category. Let people who are not politicians expose it; it doesn't change anything--

Dr. Paul hits at the heart of things, the Federal Reserve, anyway--

If he did not, he would be laughed at, and nobody would listen to him, and he's smart enough to realize that--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

knows about it--

knows that any talk about it is anathema--

mentioned that the CIA is evil several times--

uses blowback, because it works, because it's true, not because it fully explains 9/11--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

What A Stupid Question.

No Presidential Candidate can talk much about THE TRUTH ABOUT 9-11.

But I am not a Presidential Candidate, so...here!

Have YOU researched any of this? Hmmmm?

If you haven't, please come back when you graduate from kindergarten.

Some day you will meet the grown-ups :)



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So what's going to be the excuse

for Dr. Paul not talking about it after the race is over either?

Face it. Dr. Paul does not think 9/11 was inside job. Otherwise he would be a major liar because he's said so many times that he thinks it was blowback, as well has explicitly denied he thinks it was an inside job.

It's not 9-11

It's the nature of government. We all need to understand the true nature of government, then what's the big news about 9-11. Are you shocked about 9-11? Than you simply don't understand the nature of government.
And the bigger government gets, the more it attracts psychopaths. This is not information to me.
Ron Paul is trying to get inside the system to make it smaller. Enough said.
He isn't going to do it by shocking all the people sitting on the fence. He is going to do it by being uncompromising in his principles, yet careful with his issues.
He has done what he can, now it is up to us to put him in office. Jumping on bandwagons and screaming about why he won't get on board with you won't help.

It's obvious...

...that you don't really want the answer to your question, "Am I missing something?" But I'll give you the answer anyhow:

Ron Paul knows 9/11 was BLOWBACK. Ron Paul also knows that our government, which can't even deliver the mail on time, isn't that smart when it comes to national security either. So it goes without saying he's not a conspiracy theorist.

Since you're new,

you don't know how much this has been talked about here.
It was talked about to the point that the DP had to ban any 911 discussions to the Off Topic page, because it was so contentious.
Dr Paul himself even asked us to not discuss it because it "didn't help him", and made people less open to listening to his policy ideas.

I was a big proponent of discussing 911, but eventually I relented to accepting the site policy.
Maybe after the RNC convention, they will be more open to the topic.

there's no political capital is going on about 911

so many years later. Even if it was an inside job or there was prior knowledge the real truth will never come out. What there is is a lot of circumstantial evidence and lots of theories.

9-11 is the key to the revolution. And FORCE.

Unless we can FORCE our government to be held accountable for it's actions, All the audits and oversights will be little more than 9-11 commissions. Cover-ups, and sheeple fodder.

I hate to say it but force will determine the outcome. Hopefully it will be the force of sound judgement, not the agents, police, and state secrets forcing our representatives to be silent.

How will justice be anything but a mockery, while these deeds remain whitewashed, and the criminals persist.

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Ron Paul knows all about 9-11

but talking about it wouldn't help anything, and would be destructive for any politician to discuss.

9-11 was a panda job.

So, once the race is over,

he'll be talking about it right?

Of course not. He's not a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. He believes 9/11 was blow-back by muslim terrorists upset about our foreign policy. Wake up.

Well somebody is going to have to do it.

If not politicians, then who? Generals? Judges? It's not going to go away.

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Indeed, my friend....it is not going to go away.

When you get a minute please check out a new site and organization that I would like to see take off, called the 9/11 Crimes Project.

The website is www.911crimes.org

We could use you if you are interested.

Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.