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"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

While I much respect Mr. Nystroms opinion..

Nowhere in that quote does it state that it is acceptable to do this at the expense of being DISRESPECTFUL to Dr. Paul AND his delegates..That is what a handful of people here are doing. Not surprising that you'd be one of those handful of people to throw that quote into your signature either. Kind of sad really, with it attached to your name, it doesn't seem to mean as much. Again, this all started weeks ago with a few people and their "Rand endorsed Romney so Ron Paul dropped out, Johnson is our ONLY option" mentalities.

De criminalize Liberty!

I don't agree with your signature either

GJ doesn't deserve anything.

Well, don't argue with me

Well, don't argue with me about it, Romney lover.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Linda Cross's picture

Shouldn't this post be on the "Daily Johnson"???

Or don't you guys have enough tech knowledge to create your own web sites? It might be very interesting to you, but it's boring stuff for me. GJ is a competitor to Ron Paul. I support Ron Paul, therefore I do not support GJ. GJ is not even in the same political party as members of this web site. Don't try to imagine that GJ is somehow like Ron Paul. He's just not in the same league.

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

Why would they waste the money on a GJ site when

it will not support itself and they can use this one ?

http://garyjohnsongrassroots.com/
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Gary Johnson meet & greet in Dunedin, Florida on July 6, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxpA1Fn5550

What is there 9 people at his meet and greet?

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

Starting with an ad hominem

Starting with an ad hominem attack really helps persuade people.

If I dare say so, you are a bit too hung up on a man making the man more important than the ideas. Ron Paul will die eventually. Ideals of freedom and liberty will live on.

Your post is so immature. GJ is a competitor to Ron Paul? It seems that Ron choose his battle to be against Romney, Santorum, Cain, et al. As it looks quite likely that Ron will not be the Republican's nominee, it is impossible for GJ to even be a competitor against RP for the presidency. GJ is not even in the same political party as members of this site? Are you joking? Here you go again hung up on a group of men rather than the ideas which they hold. Most Ron Paul supporters are far more loyal to the ideals of liberty than to the Republican hypocrisy.

And finally, you support Ron Paul, therefore you don't support Gary Johnson? That's like saying you would eat a peanut roasted in canola oil, but wouldn't eat a peanut roasted in vegetable oil.... They will both satisfy hunger. They both support liberty and fiscal responsibility.

I can't fathom how you could possibly have so much animosity towards a fellow liberty candidate.

“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

So you read every thread?

So you read every thread? Wow, you have a lot of time on your hands.

PS- you're right, Gary Johnson has 3 times the experience of Ron Paul running government and business.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Linda Cross's picture

You've been here a whole month and already have 1000 comments?!!

Not one thread in the DP is reserved for those who oppose Ron Paul. GET OUT.

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

This site is hemorrhaging members out the door,

because of stuff like this Johnson crap.

Once all the real members have gone, which is happening at an alarming rate, there won't be anything left but the trolls, and then they'll all leave at once, and there will be .....crickets.

Parasites only hang around when there is something to feed on.

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bigT

you are correct
this is no longer a site for Ron Paul
you see every time a business wants to make more money
they outsource to mexico or china,(hey that did happen)
this site has been over run,and it has the blessings of the
owner(CEO)
but the outcome will be the same,cheaper made copies
weaker products to choose from
as you can see,it has already moved on to a weaker copy
of the original,a product that has no supporters,no money,
no real platform,but hey, can he say things we want to hear?
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I didn't know anyone was

I didn't know anyone was counting.

Good for you. My 3 year old can count to 20.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

As Gary Johnson Gets on Each State Ballot

As Gary Johnson obtains ballot status in a state I will post it here for everyone's information. So lets watch, shall we? I think he will get on 48 or 49 state ballots. How many do you think he will get on myajace? And then we can see who had the closest estimate. Sounds interesting.

Really..That's what sound interesting

to you? Maybe you need a hobby..There's already been a comment posted in the thread to see the current ballot status for Johnson. Again you miss the entire point. Johnson is suing. If his lawsuit fails and he is still kicked off Michigans ballot, what is going to stop the establishment from removing him from every other state that has the same law? What do you think is gonna stop the establishment from doing this if they see fit? If they can do everything they've done to Dr. Paul, what makes you think Johnson has any better chance? Oh that's right, your ONLY argument is that he's going to be on 48 or 49 ballots. If that ends up being the case, more power to him, but they way you Johnson people talk to Paul supporters as if they're living in lala land because they still believe Paul can be nominated, it seems like total hypocrisy that you actually believe Johnson has a chance at winning. Romney CANNOT win without Paul supporters..Gary Johnson CANNOT win without Paul supporters..The more Johnson supporters that act the way you and a couple other people here do, the less and less support (I imagine) Johnson will be getting from Dr. Pauls supporters IF he doesn't get the nomination.

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This Is One of My Hobbies

What are your's?

OK, once again, ONLY HARRY

OK, once again, ONLY HARRY BROWNE attained being on the ballot in all 50 states and he did it as candidate for the LP. Hasn't this election shown you all how rotten and corrupt this system is and you think that we're going to infiltrate a corrupt rotten political party and change them? LOL WAKE UP!

Bwwahahahaha

Far as Gary Johnson is concerned, Gary is the least libertarian of any libertarian candidate with the exception of how in the hell was he nominated bob the lowlife barr. Oh. gary boy did a great job releasing all the non violent drug offenders and legalizing marijuana in new mexico for the TWO terms he was in power. NOT.

The answer? Learn how to insulate yourself financially so whatever these scumbags do it doesn't change your lifestyle while doing something you enjoy doing. Focus on changing yourself as you ain't gonna change a liar/thief/murderer into a decent entity and if this "election" didn't convince you of that then you're doomed to waste more time thinking the contrary.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution

That is incorrect.

Ed Clark was the first to do it in 1980. Then Andre Marrou in 1992.

Brown did it in 1996. (making it two in a row for the Party)

The LP also had access in all 50 States in 2000 (a record three times in a row) but the candidates on the Arizona ballot were different due to a spat within the party between the State affiliate there and the LNC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_%28United_St...

Interesting that GJ supporters don't care to refute evidence

that there's a CHANCE Johnson could be removed from many ballots, they just want to maintain the claim that he will definitely be on the ballot in all 50 states. I would only find it reasonable that if you guys want to talk so much about Gary Johnson, you would be willing to address all the issues that will be presented in the general election. I guess not. Avoiding reality doesn't make the issue go away.

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There's a CHANCE that he

There's a CHANCE that he might be removed from 1-3 states. But it's not that likely.

In any case, he can still run as an independent in Michigan.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

1-3..

Well if it's 1, it'll probably be 3..And if it's 3 I'm sure it could be more..But ok.

De criminalize Liberty!

Interesting logic. Did you

Interesting logic. Did you learn that from Socrates himself? Don't try to debate my 3-year old.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

I won't..

I'll have my 4 yr old do it.

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Good, put him or her on so we

Good, put him or her on so we can have a nice logical conversation and talk about the future of the movement.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

You have no logic..Just spam.

You can take your "Johnson movement" somewhere else..The movement is about a message, not a person. You Johnson freaks need to leech somewhere else and stop trying to dilute the message. Tell another lie, maybe that'll help. And you can keep spamming half truths and lies all ya want, this will be the last comment I make on this thread regardless of what pointless comment you come up with next. Fire away.

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I'm not a Johnson freak. I

I'm not a Johnson freak. I just think he is the best person in the race. A pet rock would be better than Obama or Romney. But Johnson is a particularly good choice because he has one thing no liberty candidate has. Experience governing.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Well I guess that just makes

you stoopid.

"I'm not a Johnson freak. I just think he is the best person in the race."

Johnson best person in the race? Paul is still in and on ALL 50 State ballots and actually has multiple grassroots sites with 10s of thousands of active supporters unlike GJs dead official grassroots site because he doesn't have any real support.

http://garyjohnsongrassroots.com/
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Gary Johnson meet & greet in Dunedin, Florida on July 6, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxpA1Fn5550

What is there a whole crowd of 9 people at his meet and greet in that vid?

My apologies to stupid people everywhere, I'm sorry your stupid.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

No, like many Libertarians,

No, like many Libertarians, my IQ is MENSA level (I just think it's stupid joining clubs).

You didn't address the fact that Gary Johnson is the best person in the race, with or without Ron Paul in it.

And Ron Paul is on the ballot for the Republican Party but he's already lost so it doesn't matter, does it?

Anyone who believes Ron Paul is still in this doesn't believe in mathematics.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

I just want to point out

that calling people "Johnson freaks" is no different then what they called us for following Ron Paul, The more we fight amongst ourselves the weaker we are. I am not taking a side there I am just pointing out what I see.

I've been called a Johnson

I've been called a Johnson freak by a Paulbot! Oh the irony.

But you're right. It goes back to my Carlin joke -

Did you ever notice that people who want less liberty than you are idiots and those that want more liberty than you are maniacs?

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

i don't care

if gary can get in the debates that would be great. if gary can get 5% in the general and qualify the libertarians to get matching campaign funds for 2016 that would be great too.

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