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Nevada CAN still put Paul's name in nomination

Paul supporters everywhere, I'm not sure everyone understands plurality and how state delegations work at the convention.

Nevada CAN be one of the states that puts Paul's name in nomination. The binding rule from Nevada only says the delegates must vote for Romney on the first round, it says nothing about putting names in nomination. As a matter of fact, Romney will only use 5 states as well, it's a moot point, so every state is not needed once the 5 state threshold is met.

When a state delegation puts a candidate's name into nomination, the national GOP rules say they must have a plurality of delegates to do that. That simply means when the state delegation votes among themselves to put a candidates name in, they do not need a majority of that delegation to do so, only a plurality. No where does it say that state can only be a non bound state.

So if the Nevada delegation chooses to put Paul's name into nomination, the delegation secretary gives the nomination paperwork to the National Convention secretary.

The NV delegation can both vote for Romney (I would abstain) and put Paul's name in nomination.

UPDATE: Here is proof from LA Times

In this write up, they ask Palin, if they put her name in nomination at the GOP National Convention, would she accept?

Obviously she was not running, so that means you don't need to win any state, bound or unbound to have your name put into nomination.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/06/news/la-sarah-palin-...



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Nomination chances

Ron Paul will not be allowed the nomination. The business and political powers that control the RNC, the Establishment if you will, have done everything in their power to deny him the nomination. His campaign staff was sabotaged, the MSM hides any news about him, the debates were staged to guarantee a neocon's nomination, and the primaries were rigged by the RNC against him.

The Establishment isn't going to let 225 years of hard work started by Alexander Hamilton, and his supporters, go down the drain with a Ron Paul Presidency. Ron Paul's nomination will be denied to him even if armed security has to escort his delegates off of the floor. These people are playing for keeps and have the resolve and the means to do whatever they need to do to remain in power.

Ron Paul is the ONLY challenger today with the name recognition and the support necessary to buck the established interests behind the RNC --AND-- the DNC!! He is very dangerous to the Establishment and until he gets out of the way or is gotten out of the way he will be marginalized in any way necessary to deny him a chance at the presidency.

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don't believe for a minute

don't believe for a minute that RP will ignore his delegates being rough handled by armed guards

ha ha ha

what are they going to do, shoot a delegate on the floor. Right, Romney loses everything .

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So Ben Swann has an article

So Ben Swann has an article as of today on the DP pretty much confirming all of this. This is great news, however why doesn't Ron Paul know this? I think that is odd...

Here Is Ben Swann's FB Post from about an Hour Ago

3 FACTS ABOUT A CANDIDATES NAME BEING PLACED INTO NOMINATION AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION!

I have been in touch with a member of the RNC Rules committee over the past 4 days and have been able to confirm a few FACTS about the nomination process.

1. For a candidate's name to be placed into nomination at the RNC you DO need a plurality of delegates from 5 states.

2. Binding and Non-binding distinctions DO NOT have an affect on nominating a candidates name. If "binding" is allowable by rule, (it is not) it would only pertain to a vote taken on the nomination, not the process of placing a name in nomination.

3. The Ron Paul campaign HAS the majority of delegates in the following 5 states: Nevada, Maine, Minnesota, Louisana, Iowa. He MAY have the majority in Massachusetts and Colorado

http://www.dailypaul.com/244870/3-facts-about-a-candidates-n...

Good Point! Fingers Crossed!

I have sent this link and asked this as a question of Richard Gilbert, the attorney representing delegates in the Federal Civil Rights Lawsuit. As soon as we have his reply, I will post it below.

No Word So Far from Richard Gilbert

We are therefore left to depend on the Ben Swann info above.

Nevada votes

As a voting delegate who was present at the Nevada convention, I would just like to point out a few official statistics.

Mitt Romney did win the Nevada caucus with the following vote totals.

Romney 50.0% 16,486
Gingrich 21.1% 6,956
Paul 18.7% 6,175
Santorum 9.9% 3,277

Total votes cast - 32,894
Total Registered Republicans - 473,970
Total Participation - 14.40%

14.40% divided by 2, (50%) = 7.2% of registered Republicans in Nevada voted for Mitt Romney. ..Hardly any sort of "voter mandate".

1,835 Precincts
Average votes cast per precinct - 17.93

My Precinct -
300+ Registered Republicans
Votes cast - 10 (5 for Ron Paul)

There were widespread allegations of voter fraud, and I think the following statistics would tend to support them.

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Ron Paul primary results for 2008 and 2012, respectively -

IA - 11,831 / 26,036 (+14,205)
NH - 18,308 / 56,872 (+38,564)
SC - 16,155 / 78,362 (+62,207)
FL - 62,887 / 117,410 (+54,523)
NV - 6,087 / 6,175 (+88) <--Do these numbers seem.. different?

..And yet, at the convention, Ron Paul won 22/25 delegates and all the alternates. ..The three delegates he didn't win were automatically selected members of the state GOP central committee.

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Here's something else I found suspicious -

I live in Reno, NV precinct #3016. Of the 300+ registered republicans in my precinct, only 10, (including me) actually showed up to vote. ..5 voted for Ron Paul.

I think that the low voter turnout, (in my precinct, at least) was due in large part to the fact that our polling location, (Galena High School) was more than nine miles south of our precinct. ..And three miles south of Reno's southern-most bus-stop.

I think this precinct probably has a lower income average and a higher percentage of minorities than most of the city. And for most people here, attending was just too much of a bother. ..Especially considering the local media's characterization of this caucus as a non-binding "beauty contest".

At first, I thought that Pine Middle School, (our usual polling location, within our precinct) must not not have been used in the caucus for some reason. Afterwards though, looking at the results*, I noticed that they DID use Pine for 33 precincts!

I wonder why they couldn't have squeezed in just one more.

..Wouldn't it make sense for all polling locations to include the precincts in which they reside?

http://www.nvgopcaucus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Washoe...

http://www.nvgopcaucus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Clark-...

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Riddle me this then...

First let me get this straight - Or tell me where I'm wrong -

1)You need a plurality (NOT MAJORITY) of 5 states to be entered into nomination in Tampa.
2)It doesn't matter if the delegates are "bound" as far as for plurality and winning 5 state rule purposes. So far "Bound" only matters as far as who gets voted on the 1st round in Tampa (which we hope changes due to L4RP)
3)Only if you have a plurality in the state, can then a state nominate you for Tampa.
4)If (3) is true, then how would a say Sara Palin get nominated if she didn't have the plurality win in the state?

Where am I wrong?

your getting your apples and oranges mixed up

you only need a plurality of delegates at the convention to be nominated, you don't need to win a single state.

Anybody can be put into nomination

You're not wrong, but...

ONLY those candidates with a 5 state plurality can nominate him BEFORE the first ballot, granting him an automatic 15 minute speech before the first ballot. Other candidates can only be presented later.

BUT....Didn't Jesse Benton Tell The Delegates In An Email....NOT

to make waves...I guess he cut a deal with the Romulans that the delegates wouldn't nominate Ron Paul or engage in a BIG floor fight...No?

I guess Jesse Benton needs to secure a job with the Romulans after he losses his job with Ron Paul...Seems he is looking out for himself..No?

Benton is going to play a big part in this nomination process. Just WAIT and SEE...He is NO DOUBT working both sides of the fence and many of you know i'm right..I don't trust that fuc$ker as far as i could spit.

Benton is poison and so are some of the others he has surrounding Ron Paul...

Benton is NOT poision at all

JB's a great medium, like Rand, between the GOP and Ron Paul Republicans.

He is not a great medium for those who never became Republican, HATE the party, HATE the people, HATE HATE HATE HATE and FEAR FEAR FEAR, blame, bash, insult, they are Soooooooooooo far from Ron Paul, JB looks bad to them. Ron paul LOVES LOVES LOVES JB.

ALL Ron Paul Republicans who followed Ron Pauls plan and ran and won seats and offices are going to continue to play our parts.

ALL Ron Paul fans who didn't get the message, didn't follow the plan, continue to try to FORCE us to go Indy or 3rd, are sour grapes and back as usual, bashing, blaming, everyone but them.

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-LibertyG ... 2 Corinthians 2:16-17 "To some we are a scent of death leading to death, but to others, a scent of life leading to life. And who is competent for this? For we are not like the many who make a trade(for profit) but as those with sincerity...

Why don't five states...

Collect the necessary signatures and nominate right now? It's just paperwork. It can be done today. Then we wouldn't have to bicker, and we could work on informing Romney delegates what to do when the first round cones up short for Mitt: Vote for Ron Paul, The man who will beat Obama, in a landslide. Because we all know, those who didn't vote for him in the primaries did so because the media said he wouldn't be nominated. When he is nominated, it will be a rout. The oracle has spoken.

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They have to be credentialed first

The process occurs in the days before the convention during the Rules and Credentials committee meetings. At the convention, the paperwork (already done and approved by committees) is presented and the names on the ballot are announced.

In Attendance at the Convention

Delegates must be in attendance at the convention (I assume).

This is why I've been saying this all along: I assume no one knows which states may give Dr. Paul a plurality, because no one knows who will show up for this vote (which most think is moot), and they could all be off partying or late, and they haven't been polled (many are unbound or may have been bound to Santorum, or may just want to stir things up).

Too bad Ron Paul may not have enough time to prepare the teleprompter. Wait...He might have to speak extemporaneously.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Don't show your hand

If you nominate him too early, you make the grassroots happy, but give the opposition more time before the convention to figure a loophole so as not to have to deal with someone else in nomination.

The lawsuit will unbind all

The lawsuit will unbind all delegates and then we are free to put the doc in nomination!

You Miss The Point

No one is bound for the purpose of putting names into nomination. I've been saying this for weeks. Binding applies to voting for the nominees, not to nominating for the nomination.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

To Clarify, I Have Asked this Question of Atty Richard Gilbert

As soon as we have his reply, I will post it below.

Ben Swann Just Posted this to his FB Page about an Hour Ago

3 FACTS ABOUT A CANDIDATES NAME BEING PLACED INTO NOMINATION AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION!

I have been in touch with a member of the RNC Rules committee over the past 4 days and have been able to confirm a few FACTS about the nomination process.

1. For a candidate's name to be placed into nomination at the RNC you DO need a plurality of delegates from 5 states.

2. Binding and Non-binding distinctions DO NOT have an affect on nominating a candidates name. If "binding" is allowable by rule, (it is not) it would only pertain to a vote taken on the nomination, not the process of placing a name in nomination.

3. The Ron Paul campaign HAS the majority of delegates in the following 5 states: Nevada, Maine, Minnesota, Louisana, Iowa. He MAY have the majority in Massachusetts and Colorado

http://www.dailypaul.com/244870/3-facts-about-a-candidates-n...

Get in line

Many of us have asked Gilbert question he NEVER answers, just puffs himself up and says he's DEFENDEING delegates.

I don't believe that. What's he's asking a judge to do, Ron Paul's message is completely the opposite. Gilbert never contributed a dime to Ron Paul. What's with that?

READ THE SUIT FILED Jul 10 pdf

To view and download the entire 46-page federal civil voting fraud complaint filed in the U.S. 9th Circuit with the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, California on Monday, June 11, 2012 & Amendment July 10 by Attorney Richard Gilbert. The case has been assigned to Federal Judge Hon. David O. Carter.

CLICK HERE: http://electionfraudremedy.com/07-10-2012_FIRST_AMENDED_COMP...

A matter of Public Record - Praying for the LAW to be enforced through a court order. Jesse Benton does NOT support this effort.

other pertinent filings

regarding the case are included in this document:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B42o0yg7D7tcZG5Xb0hEclBiejQ/...

Delegate Hearing Aug 6

From Minute Order July 12, I gather that the hearing is on calendar for 8:30 am August 6, 2012.

Ron Paul won the Virgin Islands: That makes 5 !

He did not get the delegates , but so what, it makes a mixed FIVE states.

Apples and Oranges

We can't mix beauty contests (VI) with delegate wins (IA, LA, ME, MI, etc.), but we can use the GOP/RNC strategy of assigning a preponderance of delegates to Romney in VI to challenge the GOP/RNC strategy of denying our preponderance of Ron Paul delegates in MA. If the beauty pageant vote doesn't count in relation to delegate percentages in VI, then it doesn't count in relation to delegate percentages in MA, and the GOP/RNC should leave our MA Ron Paul delegates alone, and allow them to be seated at the convention.

The problem is, there's no reasoning with the GOP?RNC. They make the rules, break the rules, twist the rules, and do as they please. Months ago, they told Carole Paul there would be "no 5th state." That, my friends, is the level of corruption we are up against. That, my fellow patriots, is the challenge.

I have found the GOP to be reasonable to a point

after all, those who are seated MUST follow their by-laws and it's only a matter of taking them to the courts in their jurisdiction to make them stick to their laws. Persistance and fortituude pay off.

It's not easy, but it's worth it.

Don't hold your breath..

Jesse says, "Don't make any waves...Save the glory for Rand in 4 years...If there is another for years left of the republic.