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80% of Americans Would Consider Voting for a 3rd Party

The recent Reason-Rupe poll finds that 80% of Americans say they would or might consider voting for an Independent or third-party presidential candidate in the 2012 election. Specifically, 60% said they would consider voting for an independent or third-party candidate, 20% said they might consider, 17% said they would not consider, and 3% said they did not know whether they would consider voting for an Independent or third-party presidential candidate.


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I agree. It would take a

I agree. It would take a superstar candidate to transcend the tribalistic red team blue team crap. or a major economic meltdown or something. By then of course voting won't matter.

It may have been a futile attempt

for Ron Paul with his current campaign staff, but he's the one guy who probably could have made a deep run in a third party effort. Now that he's got the name recognition he never enjoyed in the past, and a message that really differentiates from the GOP/Democrat labels. Ron Paul had two problems, one was the RNC themselves. They were not about to let Paul run their club, and the other, was Dr. Paul's campaign staff. They had a hybrid candidate to manage, and they just couldn't punch their way out of a wet paper bag when it came to public relations media, and the Grand Old (bully) Party. And, in the end, maybe Ron wasn't really interested in the oval office anyway. He seems quite content to simply work the message of liberty. Hopefully, it'll catch fire with a new leader, but I don't see anyone out there with Ron Paul's mantle.

alan laney

What Would a 3rd Party Offer for Votes?

I don't trust polling much more than the two major political parties. After asking "Would Consider Voting for a 3rd Party?" it seems to me you would have to ask what would it take to get you to vote 3rd party? Maybe it's increased military spending; more entitlements; completely free health care; more income redistribution; etc.

Were you around...

...during Perot, by any chance? I was, and Perot was in the LEAD until the Bush Sr. campaign sabotaged him, making him drop in the polls quickly, though he still wound up with 19% of the vote.

Ron Paul can run circles around Perot as far as wisdom, intellect, and political savvy. Also, neither the GOP nor the Dem Party can find any dirt on him. They can't trip him up as they could with Perot. They've been trying to for years and have failed. They're afraid of Paul for obvious reasons.

I believe this "a third party can't win" mantra is just more of the same propaganda coming from both parties so that they can keep control of power.

not that i particularly like

not that i particularly like the idea of joining forces with a green or communist party, but it might help if we got together and had each extra party send a delegation and a candidate to a super third party convention so we could consolidate the third party vote. meh?



The only reason to select a third party should based on the probability of winning. Ideology does not matter for a third party candidate, if he is viable. If a third party can break the backs of the monopoly parties, then it will lead the way for successful third party liberty candidates.

Third Parties that concentrate solely on ideology are think tanks, not electoral initiatives.

Gene Louis
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UNTIL.....the economy takes a HUGE NOSEDIVE

and until you start seeing the baby boomers abandon their golf courses, we will not see any kind of change in our government, whether it be the President, the Senate or the Congress. That's just my take on things.

Ron Paul might have had much more recognition had he run as a Libertarian candidate. I don't see how the establishment could have eliminated him from Presidential debates either. He was too famous, and the public in general would have noticed that was unfair to exclude him, so I think they would have included him!

I spoke to the Libertarian headquarters months ago, and they told me they wanted HIM. Personally, I am disappointed we didn't go that route. I had hopes that if the spot had remained open through the Tampa Convention, that an announcement Dr. Paul going into a 3rd party run would have been absolutely mind-blowing by the establishment. But, it didn't happen...as GJ slipped into that spot...so

We look to the economy undoubtedly failing, because that's all we can do right now, other than make a HUGE PUSH IN TAMPA to do whatever is possible with an "I'm fed up and I'm not gonna take it anymore" attitude.

I kind of enjoyed Lee Wrights

I kind of enjoyed Lee Wrights



if Ron Paul doesn't get nomination than shouldn't we make best efforts for Gary Johnson?

Not this round

IMO... maybe next time.

Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie


In light of all that's been happening, it makes it hard to take this movement seriously if this is the mindset that pervades it.

Do you ACTUALLY believe in Ron Paul's message, and the warnings it represents? 'Cause if you did, you'd realize that sooner or later, there will be no "next time".

"The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else."
-Frederic Bastiat

If I thought GJ could win this time

I would give it more consideration, but the truth is, he can't. Since that is the case, IF I vote in our (rigged) election process, my ballot is going to read Ron Paul.

Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie

Interesting study but

I am thinking that the majority of that 80% would only *actually* cast their vote for a 3rd party candidate if the MSM told them they should. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie

Nope you're right and that

Nope you're right and that would only happen if the media reported it at all.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution

Was waiting for the but or the if

"To be clear, considering and voting are two separate things."

Yup, there it is.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

independents are the worst.

independents are the worst. they ride on their high horse saying they are non partisan as if that makes them impartial or more intellectual while at the same time always voting for one of the two parties. the only thing i can understand about them is if they want to keep their options open in the primaries, but that depends on the state


i dont know where the down

i dont know where the down votes came from, but idependents =/= libertarians, constitutionalists, greens, etc etc etc


I see

you like to corner people with labels, allegiances and associations with a collective.

i like the non wishy washy

i like the non wishy washy people that dont claim independence while still voting for the duopoly. independent is a party by the way


How long have you been a

How long have you been a freedom supporter? Good grief.

first column. < high

first column. < high school
Can you say, indoctrination


With 36 registered Third parties

They certainly have that right.

I might vote

for a 3rd Party, if one of them put up a halfway decent candidate.

Unfortunately for Johnson, he's not a halfway decent candidate.

GJ is my first pick he is

GJ is my first pick he is better than RP imo. i would rather have them both p/vp. failing that its RP. who is the lesser of the nonevils.

when they take everything they have put you in a corner with nowhere else to go but one...

GJ is better than RP?


Thanks for the laugh, pal.

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Who needs parties?

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

That's the Ticket!

Pardon the pun.