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Michele Bachmann FINALLY under attack for her Foreign Policy Lies!

A headline on the Drudge Report links to the following story at Politico where Michele Bachmann is FINALLY coming under attack for her Foreign Policy Fact Problems:

Republicans line up to rip Michele Bachmann

They were long afraid to do it, but now conservatives have their knives out for Rep. Michele Bachmann.
Senators in her own party, congressional candidates, a lawmaker in her state’s delegation and leaders of the House Republican Conference are all lambasting the Minnesota Republican for saying the wife of former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Read More at: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78741.html

What is very strange is... Where was the media when Bachmann was caught telling VERY OBVIOUS LIES in a debate with Ron Paul back in December?! Read the following.

Why Michele Bachmann is Wrong on Iran

The heated exchange between Ron Paul (R-TX) and Michele Bachmann (R-MN) at the December 15th 2011 debate in Sioux City, Iowa clearly laid forth the differences between the constitutionalists and those defined as supporting the 'status quo' on the issue of foreign policy.

Read More at: http://subsidiaritytimes.blogspot.com/2011/12/why-michele-ba...

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Bachman is for Muslim Brotherhood as rp supporters.

Like many rp supporters, bachman speaks out of both sides of her mouth. RP supporters and Bachman are for the violent arab spring and bush and obama. Because all work for radicalism and violence in the name of their closed off religion.

the muslim brotehrhood and its other radical islam partners have been infiltrating the us for decades now, and she covered for them and maintained her silence. and she supports the war in iraq that handed iraq over from moderation to extremism and iran and the coverging of state and religion.

rp supporters are also for muslim brotehrhood and still are covering for them, denying about their terror cells and their agenda of violence and chaos. #1 goal of many in the so-calledl iberty movement is to provide a cover forislam and allow islamists to prosper as they wish, bec rpsupporters think this is the best way to combat judaism - that is to give themselves over to terrorists and follow their tyrannical orders as slaves.

very sick, but very true.

jj

Terrorist Training Camp in Zion.

Wild Wild West...Bank? American tourists take aim in Jewish settlement
http://www.rt.com/news/israeli-new-form-patriotism-734/

Zionist Banksters /Gangsters Snatching Homes in America.
http://rt.com/usa/news/us-bank-home-safeguard-617/

biggest terrorist = zion. Biggest robber = zion. Biggest liar = Zion.

so what? that doesn't excuse islamists and their terror camps.

you may or may not be right. certainly they have not always been entirely good. i am not defending them in anyway.

but you can't deny or excuse islamic terrorist camps, especially those in the us. and no those zion camps if they exist are not worse than the islamic terrorist camps. and regardless, i don't pick sides or say one is a lesser evil or the other or a bit better than the other.

jj

The Biggest Terrorist,

report those camps to the FBI, you know better than them, weird.
see - Obama for America TV Ad: "Drone Warrior" -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Txlng...

The American War Machine -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl2JQfxnnHU&list=FL49ziswILqR...

the U$ military, cia, nato, etc, are killing in many parts of the world, on a daily basis, women, children & old folks, targeting peaceful assemblies, funerals, - teasing, provoking, challenging, have planned for a long-drawn-out war. Because NATO has no viable enemy they fund Taliban in one sector, and fight the Taliban in another sector. The vicious game goes on.

You may howl & shout like the fluttering of the bats, - before Dawn, then go to the cave - to hang upside down, & join the company of blood-thirsty vampires. That is why you have a strange perspective of the world, you see with your head hanging down.

funny how muslims love that cia money.

and those same large number of terrorists also get it from saudi gov't and millions of muslims around the world.

jj

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Strange, but that certainly

Strange, but that certainly does not appear to be the case in this answer given by Ron Paul when asked about what he thought of the Arab Spring, he pretty well nailed it, so the question for you is why are you, obviously desperate, seeking to disseminate such fraudulent information, what is you agenda? It certainly is not the truth otherwise you would have chosen a completely different tactic here.

"I think it [American Intervention] always backfires on us. Tunisia just had an election, they're going to have radicals Islamists in. Libya is probably going to end up with them. Look at all this buying of friendship with Egypt. Now we're going to have a government there that's less friendly to Israel. We have the Kurds under attack now by both the Turks and the Iranians. And we are driving these people into the arms of the Chinese. So, I think this hurts Israel. I think it hurts our national defense. I do not believe that we should be in nation building and we should not be involved in the entangling alliances and internal affairs of other nations. It's not part of our Constitution. And it was also strongly advised by our founders, and Eisenhower warned us to stay out of this entangling alliances." Ron Paul, Oct. 2011.

I love "Tripe Mongers" like you, your arguments are easily debunked!

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

i am not referring to paul, but to specific comments by dp'ers.

in dec 2011, ron paul also told jay leno that the arab spring is a good thing.

jj

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Again, you appear to be using

Again, you appear to be using partial information as a means to color the conversation, thus, by neglecting to actually use the context your assertion is even more disingenuous, is it not? Ron Pauls exact words were as follows:

"I think there are a lot of good healthy things there, but it’s not a healthy endorsement of our foreign policy, because part of this is rebelling against dictators that we have propped up. And a lot of what is going on … we’ve interfered in Iran for so long, since 1953 we’ve been involved in messing up their economy and trying to overthrow their government. So these things tend to backfire in the long run, there are too many unintended consequences."

So, as such, your comments automatically make me question your actual motives and the underlying agenda you have here on the DP and you do have an agenda don't you? Judging from your comments thus far that agenda doesn't necessarily include a search for the truth.

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

i mentioned the full info as he stated on leno show.

again as i said, i am not saying anything for or against paul, but commenting on dp'er reaction to bachmann's comments on muslim brotherhood infiltration.

i don't equate rp supporters to ron paul entirely, but you seem to be. a critique of a rp supporter is not automatically an attack on ron paul.

and i also don't equate the likes of crackpots like wead and hunter to paul either.

jj

LMAO you're a good troll, look at all the responses

and all the people trying to refute your ludicrous post LOL

I don't post much but I lurk a lot and I know that 99% of "lib" posts are utter horse manure, perhaps the people that replied still haven't noticed that... XD

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

your posting indicates you are in fear

and feel the need to come out and speak up on behalf of islamsits before they are exposed as you are working for them.

serial hypocrite - you are not to pick sides as paul said but remain neutral and have peaceful relations with all. yet, you don't want peace. y

jj

Err no, my posting indicated that you're full of crap

Err no, my posting indicated that you're full of crap, 99% of the time.

Didn't you read the post? lol

Yet again, you didn't disappoint with this latest manure...

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

who is f

is this troll????

Just that, a troll. Don't

Just that, a troll. Don't feed it. Look at their post history. This person doesn't belong here. We all know that. He/she comes up with some crazy stuff. Some pretty despicable stuff at that.

"despicable" stuff is the truth you know and are hiding/covering

up for.

you are no different than the neocons that support obama. your goal is to fight on behalf of islam. and the other things are just on the side that are just nice to have, but you don't do much about - like end the fed.

jj

I've seen you post that whole

I've seen you post that whole Islam thing over and over without examples or proof, so its meaningless. I'm an atheist, I support no religion or religious groups. I support freedom for all individuals, which you seem to have an issue with. This is the only response I will ever give you. If you're going to keep posting this nonsense, show us your examples. Prove how RP supporters want Islamic global domination. I do have to say however, you are probably the most obnoxios troll ever.

You're completely off base.

What you consider to be favoritism for the "Muslim Brotherhood" is actually an open mind towards equality for all. Because we don't despise Muslims we're automatically biased in favor of them? That straw man argument doesn't stand up.

Let me explain....

you should be despising islamists like the 19 saudis that did 9/11 and muslims who do suicide attacks, and those who remain silent about terrorist activity and demeaning woman, and those who fund the various types of terrorist attacks, and be frank that there are indeed dozens of terrorist cells in the us as well as on the mexican-us border all ready for action.

when you deny the above, you are a lover or supporter of islamists.

you don't need to despise muslims. some are peace loving and speak out against terrorism. but many do not.

first of all, you are not being accused to 'despising muslims, you are being accused of not despising violence and islamists and lie/not acknowledge/hide under the rug their infiltration allowed by obamney into the us government and other sensitive areas.

sure, israel influence is heavy. but so is bad chinese influence and there is very heavy islamic influence that is as devastating. yet, you want to pick sides. you pick islam over judaism. and you are emotional about it.

theoretically, paul preaches not taking any sides. but you ignore that and pick sides anyway, leaving you to be a serial hypocrite (not newt).

jj

There's a huge difference

Between Islamists and radical Islamists and you're combining them into one group. Of course I despise the ones that attacked us on 9/11 because they actually harmed us. The rest of the Islam world gets a bad rap because of a few bad apples and that's not fair.

If that's how you want to approach the situation then you're the one who is hypocritical because every religious group has committed egregious crimes. Can you say "The Crusades"?

I think it's outrageously hilarious that you'd say I'm taking sides. I have the EXACT same philosophy as Ron Paul. YOU are the one who is taking sides. Taking sides against Muslims. I thought we were supposed to view everyone as individuals, not groups? YOU are the hypocritical one. I am being completely and utterly unbiased by saying I will NOT hate an entire religion for the actions of a few (which is illogical on it's face).

Not a few bad apples, many of them are bad.

those who keep silent and don't adamantly condemn all those attacks are culprits as well. and when i mean condemn, they shouldn't have to be prodded, they should be very vocal about it and do it without being asked.

those who fund the terror groups in anyway or do business with them are also culprits. many terror groups have business fronts and billions to maybe trillions pour to them. you have many average earning muslims contributing to its cause.

those mothers /families who applaud their children and others becoming suicide bombers are also culprits.

there is no difference b/w islamists and radical islamists as their goal is one and the same - merging of church and state and making heavy use of sharia law. arab spring is all about islamists. those who think arab spring is healthy or are for it are infact islamists or strong islamist supporters.

but you are better than many other rp supporters in that you admit 19 saudi men actually harmed 3k people and you write that this is bad, so you are way ahead of the game.

your version of the crusades is wrong. islamists started the aggression and christians were defending themselves and their land. sure, there are people in every religion that do violence.

i am not taking any side of islam or anyonelse. just bec i don't announce my side like comments speaking up for islam doesn't mean i picked any side.

i recognize those saudi men did harm and there are people in other religions did harm as well. clearly, by a very large margin, muslims have done the most harm and outdone violence more than any group. of course, the fed is harmful as well and i condemn that as well as the saudi men who attacked the us.

in summary, islamists are widespread and not "few" as you and bush and obama and bachman repeatedly state. the religion itself is a political system.

when you say "few", you are toe to toe with media and establishment.

jj

The reason why the Crusades are viewed in such a negative light

is because it was the first attempt at European Imperialism and it failed. Thus, the Crusades are bad. You are right about Christians and Jews in the Holy Land (which was under the Roman [Byzantine] Empire at the time) were simply defending themselves. The Emperor called on help from the west, the Pope responded. The Pope then died within days of the announcement which gave secular rulers free reign to go hog wild with the broad declaration of defending the Holy Land. Crusader states were formed and so on by said secular leaders.

The Byzantines played Byzantine politics. The barbaric (and some erstwhile) knights were in the trappings of political games which were over their heads. Manipulated, they ended up being at the mercy of the Byzantines.

The 4th Crusade ironically did not go into the Holy Land but destroyed Constantinople which helped bring about the end of the Byzantine Empire. No one ever wants to talk about the that Crusade that ended eastern Christendom. In the end, most westerners are ashamed not because of of the religious aspects, but due to the humiliation of defeat. This humiliation still lingers even here on the DP.

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How do you consider yourself an RP supporter?

You sound like a warmongering, hate-spewing, neo-con. And you are taking a side on Islam. You have clearly announced your side on the issue so don't try to back track.

Your side: Down with Islam; up with Judaism and Christianity.
My side: Down with hate, intolerance, and bias; up with truth, freedom, and acceptance.

My suggestion to you is to stop looking for the Muslim under your bed and find a hobby.

Any evidence

to support your bizarre claims?

lots on evidence right on DP for years/months.

look at the comments on this thread only to see how rp supporters are emotional in defending islamists as if that is the point of hte liberty movement, with the fed a distance second or so.

why are you all getting so passionate about this, especially as you don't consider islamsits no serious issue at all. yet, you are making it out to be one.

of course, it is a serious issue when you know the facts and deny them , like dozens of terror cells are geared to go in the us. that should scare you, but to many rp supporters that is victory for them and like the us gov't does with fema camps, you maintain your silence over tyranny and violence.

jj

lol

I have heard it all now..so we support Islam to combat Judaism?

Perfect, your #1 goal is to support Islam and down judaism.

and you lie about its dangers and the network and infiltration they have set up with help from the cia.

when you support islam as most comments here are standing up for islamists, you support the us government, hence you support establishment and both romney and obama.

so you are just usign paul's credibility to pretend something you are not - that is you are no different from neocons. you want one side to win and are on side crashing on the other side.

truth is that you should not be picking any sides and let them deal with it. but you don't want to - you want to continuously pick on one side and ignore the atrocities of the other side. when you do that, you support atrocities, which of course lead to war.

jj

The irony is that Christian

The irony is that Christian Zionists like Bachman NEVER appreciate the FACT that our governemnt has been infiltrated by JEWISH neoconservatives! At every level. They are obsessed with Muslim extremism, without ever acknowledging the problem of Jewish extremism or supremacism. This is not a cry for Jewish free government at all, just pointing out the irony of the right being concerened about Muslim infiltration when we have so many dual citizens of Israel and the US, or Israel firsters in our govt.

ISRAEL Driving US to WAR

+1, & thanks for the frank & fair comment.

Build up to WW3 - ISRAEL Driving US to WAR with IRAN -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIzLDU-SVAI

Death of American Democracy -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK7SRYp4sBc

probably you have already seen these videos, - just to remind others about who has infiltrated & controls U$ war policy - dangerously.

drop your israel constant ranting, iran is no saint.

iran has been playing games for a long time. the us and your islamist buddies keep him in that position bec he is good at instilling fear in people and inciting persuasive speeches to rally up muslims to be more radical like you.

in short, none of the islamic countries, rulers, or the people that elect them are any better than israel.

doesn't it embarass you of the maltreatment of women, that most muslims believe in stoning, etc... and all the suicide bombers, and all the bombs that muslims rig there on a daily basis. no other group of people do such attacks, especially on its own people and places of worship on almost a daily basis.

you need to focus on reforming your religion, than ranting on others. join other reformist muslims.

jj

I am fully aware of how

I am fully aware of how backward Iran is, yet I also know that our crusade against that nation is causing its leaders to take a harder line. We need to trade and travel with them, and voluntarily boycott them strategically, as we should with Israel. Make our points, but don't fully cut off peace building measures.