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What Happened to 'No One But Ron Paul'?

Remember when everyone was chanting that? We had it as a Moneybomb title, I'm pretty sure. And look at us now. So many people have jumped ship and thrown their support behind Gary Johnson (and posting about their support of Gary Johnson here on The Daily Paul). It's SICKENING. Just because it looks as if Ron Paul does not have the best chances of winning the Republican Nomination does not mean that he's out! He's downplaying his chances for a reason and we need to trust him on that. That doesn't mean to just abandon him and everyone else here and support someone else. I'm pretty sure 'No One But Ron Paul' MEANS 'I'm Supporting Ron Paul through it all.'

I'm just saying..



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"No one but Paul" was a

"No one but Paul" was a response to a media meme stating that Paul supporters should back Romney in order to show a united face against democrats once the actual election came along.

The implication was that we would never back Romney as his positions on many issues that we care about are opposite ours. This is still the case, obviously.

The implication was not that we wouldn't support another candidate with a similar ideology if Paul didn't get the nomination.

Amen!

Thank you for this post, I was going to post something like this on the DP but you said it for me :)

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Gary Johnson is not a threat

to Ron Paul.
If Ron Paul wins the nomination, the Johnson support will drop fast.
Nearly EVERY SINGLE Johnson supporter here will vote for Paul if he is the Republican nominee.

Many of us PAUL FIRST, GARY SECOND people are just skeptical that the GOP will allow Ron Paul to be their nominee.

I don't think anyone has jumped ship those that are GJ supportes

were already because GJ could never be compared to Dr Ron Paul.

I figure he was brought out to be a spoiler not against Romel or the others but against Ron Paul consider the timing of a couple things.

Ron Paul was putting the other candidates to shame in the debates.
We were gaining steam then all of a sudden they tried to divide his vote by throwing GJ into the debate for one debate because they were getting afraid of Ron Paul.

Now there is no other candidate except Ron Paul that has a chance at winning the nomination as the Republican candidate. And the only candidate with a chance of beating Obama.

The only candidate with a prayer of restoring out country of course they would throw GJ to sabotage us from finishing the job and electing Dr Ron Paul President don't let them make you underestimate the power of liberty.

Don't fall for these distractions or anything else we are close we can win don't believe anyone that tells you any different.

Vote for NO One But DR Ron Paul.
He is the only one who can or will restore our country.
No one is telling my kids I quit in the middle of taking our country back and restoring there freedoms. NO ONE BUT RON PAUL

Uhhh

I've been a Paul supporter since the 07 run, and after Tampa, if Paul doesn't by a miracle win, I will be fully supporting Gary Johnson.

Eric Hoffer

You pretty much made a post

You pretty much made a post for me. I too have been a supporter of RP since 07'. If in August he doesn't get the nod I'm also backing Johnson, because of the movement, not the man! I have a R3VOLUTION tattoo, not an RP or GJ tattoo, because it's about more than that. Where are the die hards going to go after Tampa?

I'm still that way

I won't compromise moral conviction just to get the obamanation out of office by replacing him with a twin.
Decades of research has proven to me, and frankly many more than just me, who the puppet masters are. Ron is the only man running who isn't sold out to them.
I fear greatly for America, but I do not fear the results, rather for widely divergent reasons I actually look forwards to this ( America's transformation ) playing out sooner rather than later.

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

it's actually anyone but Mitt

it's actually anyone but Mitt Romney and Barak Obama...i'll have a look at the list..and see which one I can vote for and still keep my character, morals and soul..we shall see

"and the truth shall make you free"
John 8:32

Gary Who?

Paul or NOTHING.

They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds. -mexican proverb

Lets see

Ron don´t even remotely campaign anymore.
His son endorsed Romney. (No chance he would do that without talking to Ron)

He was at a meeting with the FED.

His bill audit the FED has gone a long way and is likely to pass and no apparent opposition.

I put 1+1 and get 2.

He was likely given an offer to pass his bill against that he stopped campaigning.

Can´t think of a thing an audit will do anyway, soon everything implodes anyway. So they offered him something they knew would come out anyway. That is why you don´t make deals with the evil ones, cause they will offer nothing worth anything.

But hey it´s just my guess. I am not privy to inside information, so I just rely on logic.

I think he could have done much more sticking with it.

No I don't believe he would ever sell out

He has stood up for to long I just don't believe it.

Ron Paul is a libertarian...

Ron Paul is a libertarian.

If you believe in Ron Paul's message, you are also a libertarian.

After Ron Paul, Gary Johnson is the closest thing to a libertarian and his name will definitely be on the ballot.

Look, I am a very idealistic person, and I'd love to believe that writing Ron Paul's name in will make a statement for the Liberty Movement, but let's face it... those votes will not get counted. In an absolutely perfect, non-corrupt election, the DIEBOLD will read the ballot as a "Write-In" and it will sit there, locked up and unseen by human eyes unless the number of "Write-In" votes exceed the number of votes for any other candidate. The odds of that happening in an Obama v. Romney scenario is essentially 0%.

Sadly, I've come to the realisation that if Ron Paul's name is not on the ballot and I want to make a _meaningful_ (key word here) statement for the Liberty Movement, I must vote for Gary Johnson. I urge other Liberty-minded individuals to do the same.

If Gary Johnson

was even close to make a difference the diebold will take care of that as well.

I am afraid you have no option at the ballot box to save the day.

But fear not, YOU are the answer and information, so spread the message.

There will be no candidate, no messianic figure to correct things, only solution lies in YOU, to change the world.

And change it will. Use the power of information and educate people.

YOU have power beyond what YOU know. Just make sure to do it in a peaceful way. We are legion and we are determined and we will never stop. We will win.

Clarification.

Perhaps I should've said, "make a statement -- at the ballot box --"

We all know the election is hacked and the real work can only be done by our boots on the ground. This is a no-brainer.

Funny.....

...with the exception of a 6 month stint 24 years ago, Ron Paul has been a Republican for ALMOST SIXTY YEARS.

REPUBLICAN

Longer than you have been alive.

No LPers are going to vote me down for posting the facts because it makes them FEEL bad. Yet another reason I refuse to be LP or vote GJ.

Apparently you don't understand

Apparently you don't understand the difference between a libertarian and a Libertarian. Ron Paul's party affiliation (and duration of said affiliation) is irrelevant. Ron Paul's principles make him a libertarian.

Our obsessive attachment to a man over an ideology might just be our undoing... *eyeroll*

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There are three options about how we move forward.

Which way is the right way is the question?

1. Values first: Identify the core principles that bind us together and stick to them. Identify and support only those people that meet these criteria, which could be none at all. We could come up empty-handed with the 'principle bar' set too high.

2. People first: Identify individuals who are generally Liberty minded and adapt our core principles to fit these people. We stress the issues that we agree with these people and diminish/downplay/not address those issues that we disagree with. We will find people to support, but our principles will no doubt be compromised.

3. Totally open: Do neither. Be completely fluid in what we believe and who we support on a case by case basis.

This maybe very simplistic, but all of the current turmoil on the Daily Paul indicates that there is no absolute right way. Each one of these options has its pluses and minuses. What to do?

No one but Ron Paul just

No one but Ron Paul just SCREAMS that the movement dies with Ron Paul.

The 2-party system loves it when you say that. It means you have no back up plan and are going to take your ball and go home.

We should be saying "You can beat a man, but you can't be a movement"

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Your premise is flawed...

...as you are making an unstated assumption that the movement would forward and stay alive if "we just got behind GJ."

As stated, that is a false premise on two grounds:

1) even if GJ were the great guy you say he is, he is a non-factor and cannot move the ball.

2) GJ is not the great guy you say he is.

1. He's going to cause

1. He's going to cause Romney to lose if it's even close. Therefore, he's a factor. Ron Paul is retiring, you can't get too much less of a factor than that.

2. Actually, he really is. He's just not a purist intellectual anarchist like you would want him to be, but those guys never run for office. Ron Paul is no intellectual anarchist. He makes Rothbard spin in his grave.

3. No, it doesn't require a vote for Johnson to keep the movement alive, but to move it forward? I see no other option available. Ron Paul won't be on the ballot, so you can do nothing, vote for Obama or vote for Romney. Or vote for Johnson.

Doing nothing doesn't move the ball. And I include WIRP on that.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Funny, I'd like to know

who your "We" is...you speak for noone but yourself.

De criminalize Liberty!

Anyone with logical capacity.

Anyone with logical capacity.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

So, maybe you should start using logic..

It might serve your purpose better. But yet, it's still not quite what your purpose is here. You talk as is your trying to gain support for Gary Johnson, but it seems, for the most part, that is the OPPOSITE of what you're actually accomplishing. Good job supporting the two party system, that is exactly what your doing.

Oh I'm sorry, do you not have the capacity to logically understand that?

De criminalize Liberty!

I am. That's why I came to

I am. That's why I came to the conclusion that I would vote for Paul over Johnson if Paul gets the nomination EVEN THOUGH I prefer Johnson.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

He probably meant "We" as

He probably meant "We" as those of us that want to keep this movement going forward, not watch it die if RP doesn't get the nomination.

Yeah, "probably"..

But unless you've been keeping track of JohnAssman, that's probably what it would look like. JohnAssman has no good intentions here, despite what you might think.

De criminalize Liberty!

Actually, I do. But you

Actually, I do. But you refuse to see that and that is your perogative.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

The two party system

loves it when you come here to recruit for the third party. They don't like it when we try to hijack their coronation process.

I'm pretty sure they don't

I'm pretty sure they don't like either.

I don't believe in parties, BTW. I believe in ideas.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

BTW

YOU are a LIAR. The only thing you believe in is leeching.

De criminalize Liberty!