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Was the batman shooting a staged event?

UN gun Treaty will now pass thanks to this
Drugged up, brainwashed patsy.

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Bodies STILL in the theatre almost 24 hrs later???

Nancy Grace interviewed someone saying that they were expediting the ballistics testing so they can release the bodies to the families. Is this normal?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

A list of how we should react:

Well at least for me anyway....I can't tell other people how to deal with horrible things that happen.

1. Stay quiet until the facts reveal themselves, but be very observant and don't cloud your mind with things like speculations based on what and how you feel about conspiracy, drugs, a corrupt CIA, etc...

2. When the facts come out...assess weather they fit with what you observed; what the investigators say, how the media covered it, what the political players say, ask yourself if the facts presented go against what you observed. Evaluate the data available.

3. Make reasonable arguments based on facts and your investigations.

If we all start screaming drugs, conspiracies, etc.... It sure makes us look pretty stupid...

When we jump to conclusions we are as shameful as the media:

http://pfflyeveryday.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/pf-abc-news-in...

Just sayin...

Look at thelastest cover of Entertainment weekly

http://celebritychatta.com/2012/07/11/entertainment-weekly-j...

I saw this sitting on my coffe table today.

Senator Peter Schiff 2016

Weird - it's about Batman

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Stop with this "drugged up" crap.

Show me the evidence. The tendency for everyone to mindlessly attribute drugs as the cause/a factor in every incidence of violence is getting old. I come to the DailyPaul to escape that drivel. Violent insanity preceded drugs by eons. Not everything is a conspiracy.

I Would Tend To Agree

Things like this don't happen in a vacuum.... I'm sure there is a catalyst in this.

We "need" more gun control as envisioned by the UN and its assorted fellow travelers.

I also suspect as has been brought up in other mass shootings, the role played by pharmaceutical drugs. All one has to do is listen to what they say in all the pharmaceutical ads on TV and to what is written in the small print in magazine ads.....that this particular drug may cause "suicidal thoughts", "depression".... Add to that all the pharmaceuticals the schoolchildren are on to "control" them....ritalin for one.....

Just my 2 cents....

"Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom." Patrick Henry

Who knows

As usual though I'm sure the Feds won't let a good crisis go to waste..

Has there been anymore word on the rumor that this guy had advertised that he was going to do this and was a part of "Occupy Black Bloc"?

"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"

Uploaded the Staged Interview to YouTube

Uploaded the Staged Interview with to YouTube

Notice the "eyewitness" using "honestly" over and over again. "Honestly there was just one guy"..The entire interview is rediculous. The guy got too excited and blew it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbNlm7lEmEE

It Has Been Done Before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yISMNgvEt-k

CNN Staged Scud attack from "Saudi Arabia"

Laurelai

Mods. Are you serious?

This is the day this happened and you are allowing professional nut bags to place this crap on the dailypaul. Wow

Remember freedom of speech?

Remember freedom of speech? It doesn't just cover popular speech.

This is not a freedom of speech issue

This is a private website. I made an appeal to the mods to remove this rubbish. Would you defend threads about how it is cool to kidnap, kill or maim? This isn't a public park...

Anyway, this thread is an embarrassment and all the people agreeing should be ashamed

Agree that this isn't a freedom

of speech issue.
I still don't think it should be removed.

The truth is we will never know if this was staged or not.
I'm actually leaning towards it not being staged but I understand why some would think it was.

The media is the problem.
They will use any horrible event to push for a gun crackdown.
They will scare the easily brainwashed people into going along with TSA style pat downs in theaters.

the short answer is

YES!

Ron Paul is My President

It quacks, it walks and it looks like a duck.

It's probably not what it seems to be, a duck. ( end LSM mode sarcasm ) /
Indeed, we are supposed to believe a graduate level med student put this all together by himself, without attracting undue attention. Just how does one get tear gas and explosives without undue attention these days? Oh yea, the FBI gives it to you.
Sad though, any play against the second amendment that involves confiscation shall result in civil war IMHO.
Not that our government gives a rats behind, they will just eradicate everyone who stands in the way of global governance, without batting an eyelash in moral conflict.
It's been real.

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

This guy was too well armed,

too professional, has tear gas, wearing swat team gear, his apartment booby trapped,

and then he just quietly waited for the police to find him waiting beside his car?

after seemingly flipping out and killing all those people?? or was it carefully planned?

Suspicious.

Yes

Now move on and take over your local GOP. Thanks.

The only thing that threw me

The only thing that threw me off was the fact that someone brought a 4 month old to a midnight showing of a rated R movie.

I think the dude was nuts, but it's being built up to increase fear and paranoia of guns.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Pretty much everything is staged.

until proven not, I assume it.

I really don't know what to think, but I thought it very odd

that Chris Ramos, a movie-goer witness interviewed by George Stephanopoulos, suddenly stated "honestly, for the record, there was only one guy." At this point George interrupted him and seemed to be trying to change the subject.

The timing of Ramos' sudden declaration that there "was only one guy" seemed unnatural, as though it was something he was SUPPOSED to say.

Very strange.

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/dark-knight-rises-fans...
(the "one-guy" statement comes at the 1:40 mark)

And one more thing- some articles say that Holmes was dressed like a SWAT team member, while others say he wore a Joker costume and had red hair. So which is it?

what I find interesting is the fact that these days cops & SWAT

usually do not think twice before murdering your dog, let alone your loved ones, for looking at them funny, or raiding the wrong home at 3am, yet, we're supposed to believe that a lunatic who was basically donning the same SWAT equipment that police would use, who murdered 12+ innocent people, and shot at 90+ cinema goers, is merely "in custody" and still alive??

Really?

If there were ever a time in which they should actually go 'weapons free' would be against an obvious, active shooter/murderer. Yet, incredibly, this is the time that they actually apply restraint?

Really?

We now live in an era where a local SWAT team who were either too dumb or lazy as to not even verify the address of the home they're raiding. Nor, do cops and SWAT think twice before murdering the homeowner of that said wrong address, and worse, when confronted, get insanely indignant and smug about the fact that they just murdered homeowner of the home they just erroneously and illegally raided, as IF a free human should not have the 'audacity' to dare answer a strange commotion at his own home at 3am in the morning armed...

Yet, we're suppose to believe that your local SWAT suddenly grew some intelligence overnight, and are exercising restraint, against an alleged mass murderer?

Really?

Since when did SWAT need an excuse to NOT murder someone??

So now they're gonna actually apply discipline, when confronted with a real killer?

Really?

Really? Someone who entered from the theater's LOCKED emergency exit, in full SWAT gear (Kevlar helmet, AR15, Glock 22/23, body armor, gas mask), tactically threw a smoke bomb or some type of flashbang to 'create a diversionary confusion' before spraying lead at 70~90+ innocent cinema goers, while murdering 12 in the process, and SWAT didn't actually want to kill that said assailant, when they could care less about dogs, or owners of the WRONG address they're raiding?

Really?

Suddenly, they actually grew tactical standards, overnight, against an alleged assailant, when they rarely need 'alleged' characterization before going trigger happy, in the now PoliceState Amerika?

Right. That, MSM narrative is soooooooo believable.

Frankly, at this point, NO govt in Amerika, be they Fed, State OR local, has any credibility.

So IMHO, it's rather prudent to assume govt's guilty and more than likely anything they do as a false flag, UNTIL proven innocent.

Hey, seriously, just WTF is it gonna take before the 'brand' known as "government" itself becomes as guilty and dirty as the labels "pedophile" or "rapist?"

Can we finally get to a day where the very word, "govt," prompts the term "rapist" or "murderer" automatically, in the minds of the majority of the American population? Well... because such characterization WOULD actually be true?

Yes, it's speculation, coupled with healthy skepticism verging on healthy paranoia, but really, at this juncture in history, anyone who actually assumes everything that corporatists/statists/govt terrorists do as anything OTHER than false flag, I'd rather question that person's discernment skills.

If one's history counts for anything, as frankly that is the sole criteria in which we individually in our own lives judge our loved ones/family/friends, as well as complete strangers by, why shouldn't we apply the same critical standard when it comes to govt? What credibility do they have with us?

Thus, I feel no shame, or hype, or paranoia, in assuming (which I try not to do, but w/govt? absolutely apropos) that everything and anything govt says or does, is a LIE or a false flag operation.

At this juncture in history, one would be absolutely factually correct to assume that govt's guilty, until proven innocent, and false flag, until proven otherwise, as factual history actually bears this out.

So, long story short: always prudent to assume it's false flag or guilty until proven otherwise, when it comes to govt, then not.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

It's not the attack that is false flag

It is the media reaction to the attack. Seriously, in a country of 320+M people it is amazing that we only have one or two egregious attacks like this per year. What is obvious is that there is a standard line of response to such attacks which is meant to further the anti-gun movement, or for whatever purposes it can be spun as propoganda. I do not in general give our government credit for plannign vast timed out conspiracy type attackes meant to further their ends. These are government employees we are talking about here, if they were truely that talented thed have made a fortune on their own, however, the cynicism with which a politician will use a tragedy knows no boundaries. It may help to remember that there is really no such thing as journalism either, almost all "journalists" are wanna be politicians with some sort of an axe to grind. I think it is highly likely that event such as 9-11 follow a very similar pattern i.e. it is not a planned government attack, but the legislation that comes of it is clearly allowed by manipulating the tragedy.

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I'm with you

Classic false flag op to push the UN agenda. Very convenient. The real lesson is to be ready and able to defend yourself.

you just won the dumbest thread of the year award

Congrats

I agree

You beat me to it.

obviously

obviously

lawrence

but just to be on the safe

but just to be on the safe side let's have t.s.a. in movie theaters and lets go ahead and quarter a few of them in the house just so we can feel safe.

lawrence

At the very last we need some

At the very least we need some homeland security folks living in every neighborhood to report to their masters.

"As the circle of light increases, so does the circumference of darkness around it." - Albert Einstein
"Now, more than ever, the choice between Obama and Romney will be which one do you want to ruin your country?" ~ Wead

Yes, "Safe"

As I wrote in another thread:

"Hmmm. ... We can probably expect the TSA to start x-raying, groping and fondling in theaters now (among other places). And VIPR teams ... will now patrol the aisles instead of ushers."