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What if all of the moviegoers would have been armed?

What if all the people at the colorado movie theater had been armed? The man who had decided to commit mass murder would have been shot and stopped before he killed so many. Msnbc is spewing non stop anti gun propaganda.We need to organize a totall boycott of msnbc. The solution is not to ban guns but to require every law abiding citizen to be armed at all times, just like a samauri warrior who can not be without his sword. If the pilots on 9/11 had been armed they could have prevented the terrorists from taking over the cockpit.If all law abiding citizens were armed at all times then robberies, rape, and home invasions would go down drasticly and the anti gun forces who want to impose tyranny on the united states people would be defeated and labeled the traitors to freedom that they really are.



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No, but wait!

What if NONE of the moviegoers had been armed? Oh, wait, never mind. That's just what happened.

Also not the answer

The guy who did this was wearing body armor. If everyone was armed and pulled out their guns and started shooting in the dark. The perpetrator would probably be the only one left alive!
Try again!
Next week it will be 12 more people by someone else. There needs to be a real solution! There needs to be real punishment! There are no consequences for this kind of behavior. We don't need to outlaw guns. We just need punishment that fits the crime!
Back a few hundred years ago, this is how they did it, if someone kills someone else they would be put to death. If someone killed a group of people unjustly they would be burned with candles to the verge of death allowed to heal and then burned to the verge of death for each count. They would do this publicly. Problem solved! Absolutely no mass killings. I don't think this is cruel and unusual. Cruel and unusual would be chopping off someone's hands for stealing a loaf of bread. Cruel and unusual would also be not punishing this person it would be cruel and unusual for the families of all the dead. PS this guy will probably get life in a nut house. That's three hots and a cot for life. Candles are cheaper! If we do this just once, we will have an outbreak of sanity in the United States. No more nuts going around killing people !

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein

Agreed

100% agree with this.

However, there's 1 issue. When you say we should "require every law abiding citizen to be armed at all times", I really think you mean "encourage every law abiding citizen to be armed at all times". Remember, it is your right to choose to bear arms. But it is also the right for someone else to choose not to. Mandates will get us nowhere if we are truly about liberty.

you are right. In fact I said

you are right. In fact I said as much in a reply to the first comment. We need to legalize and encourage the carrying of firearms, not require it. Require was a poor choice of words.

Problem is not just gun-control

but also limited self-defense laws and a legislature and judicial branch dominated by the most hawkish elements of the law enforcement community. If u use your firearm outside of your home, business, or vehicle, you end up like George Zimmerman. The self- defense laws on the books have been scrutinized and minimized through agency litigation and lobbying. Even in so-called "red-states", self-defense statutes have been under constant attack since the 70s in the form of legislation and, most importantly, judicial precedent.

All laws that protect defendants have been severely weakened over the years as well. The so called "tough on crime" approach has, of course, resulted in an overall deterioration of civil liberties. Even long standing principals, i.e. "innocent before proven guilty", are practically meaningless in today's de-facto conception of justice.

The NDAA et al have awakened us, but the modern weakening of civil liberties had its origins in criminal law reform.

What if ANY of the moviegoers were armed?

A lot of lives (perhaps all) could have been saved.

Please pray for the individuals and families involved in this tragedy - for comfort, healing, help, and love.

And please pray that the wish of our founders would come true that every responsible male (and female) citizen would be armed and skilled in defending life.

With deep respect for all life from fertilization to the old age grave.

Through Christ, the Prince of Peace!

Ron Paul 2012
The Champion of the Constitution

At the cross Jesus Christ defeated sin, death, hell, and the new world order.
C’mon boys, let’s take the plunder!

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Herd Immunity

It sure is curious how Herd Immunity works for self defense against a virus but not for self defense against bullets and gas.

Just sayen'

Yes and no

If those people had been armed, it's likely the carnage would have been cut short, or better yet, with a mind set that society at large is permitted to be armed, it may have discouraged many would-be mass shooters (Most who are cowards in the first place and often self- suicide rather than shoot it out with armed police) to rampage in the first, place.

But on the other, trying to shoot a perp in a dark theater with smoke and people running around is fraught with consequences. Even a trained shooter risks hitting a bystander. Not saying it shouldn't be attempted, just that its an imperfect solution in a difficult scenario

I believe in the right to be armed for self-defense, but as I posted in a similar thread, that is not enough. Armed self-defense is reaction to a symptom of a greater problem. We need to be pro-active in promoting non-aggression of our libertarian philosophy to others.

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

while it is true a dark

while it is true a dark theater is not the best scenario for hitting a target, the muzzle flashes would have made a good target after people realized what was happening.

Where is Batman when you need him?

Take responsibility to defend yourselves.

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Don't be ridiculous. People

Don't be ridiculous. People shoudln't be allowed to defend themselves. Only the government and it's trained officers should have that authority.

yes, that is sarcasm.

There must be a million

There must be a million police officers in this country who are armed at all times and I dont remember any incidents where one of them committed mass murder at a theater. If armed police make us safer then armed honest citizens would also. When the police want to kill somebody they just beat them to death with their clubs like they did to kelly thomas in california. Why aren't bloomberg and msnbc calling for anti club laws.

When seconds count....

the police will be there in 15 minutes.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

and then they will hide

and then they will hide behind their cars in the parking lot for hours while people bleed to death like they did at colombine

Samurai had weapons because they were the elites' soldiers

Here's what they thought about everyone else:

"The people of the various provinces are strictly forbidden to have in their possession any swords, short swords, bows, spears, firearms, or other types of arms. The possession of unnecessary implements makes difficult the collection of taxes and dues and tends to foment uprisings."

-- Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Shogun, August 1588

I still support your main point.

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Arming of all citizens would not be required,

if an uncertain but large percentage were presumed armed and ready to stop aggression at all times. The factor that leaves all of us vulnerable is not universal gun-toting, but a ready acceptance and glorification of official violence as the basis for the culture.

perhaps require was not the

perhaps require was not the right word. What if everyone was encouraged to be armed and it became expected in our culture? First we need to get rid of all laws that prevent citizens from carrying a gun either concealed or open.