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Gary Johnson Will Beat Obama and Romney: At Least One Survey Says So

Earlier I wrote about the website www.isidewith.com, and asked our readers to go take the poll and see what their results look like. Not surprisingly, several people came away with results that they could not believe. Some of the results were met with shock and surprise. It is my intent then, to provide some results on a semi-regular basis; a series, if you will, of the results of some key election states if they were won by the person that "wins" the state in the survey.

The 10 states are considered to be key states for any Republican win in the 2012 election. If a candidate were to win all 10 of these states, they would be halfway to the presidency in November. When you factor in the so-called guaranteed wins for either party, these states seem to be a "must" for a non-Democrat.

Without further adieu, let's look at the states and see how the candidates fare in each state as of July 20 with 853,000 surveys complete at press time.

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92% Ron Paul89% Gary

92% Ron Paul
89% Gary Johnson
73% Willard
52% Barack
Since the first 2 are the only ones I would consider supporting I am not surprised.

Edit:
After opening it up I see
67% Jimmy McMillan
65% Virgil Goode
51% Jill Stein
31% Stewart Alexander
76% American Voters
That means BO barely made 6th place on my list.

Sigh! I guess I won't be voting for Barrack Obama.

My results:

91% Ron Paul
on economic, foreign policy, domestic policy, healthcare, social, immigration, and science issues.

90% Gary Johnson
on economic, foreign policy, domestic policy, healthcare, social, and science issues.

78% Mitt Romney
on economic, healthcare, domestic policy, and immigration issues.

17% Barack Obama
no major issues.

58% New Hampshire Voters
on immigration issues.

74% American Voters
on domestic policy, social, and immigration issues.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

When...

Are you going to make your own GJ site?
This is the Daily Paul.
If you don't support RP anymore, it is OK for you to leave. We wish the best of luck for you.

"Rule Number One: Obey ALL rules!!"
Ron Paul 2012!

If we're lucky, we'll all get

If we're lucky, we'll all get to vote for both in November.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Gary Johnson Speaks at Gathering to Protest Undeclared Wars

Nicholas Williams, 14, eagerly posed for a photo with Gov. Gary Johnson, Libertarian presidential candidate Saturday after Williams spoke to a group of conservatives. Johnson was one of the keynote speakers later in the day. About 100 conservatives protested a wide spectrum of government policies including the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the Patriot Act among others at Midtown Park on the Little Sugar Creek Greenway on Saturday, July 21, 2012. JOHN D. SIMMONS - jsimmons@charlotteobserver.com

The photo of Nicholas and Gary is #2 in the slideshow. #3 shows Gary Johnson supporters carrying signs to the protest.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/07/21/3396646/conserva...

It would be great if that was true

we can hope, Paul or Johnson would be great, i do fit more with Johnson because i don't really care much about social issues but either one of them winning would be great.

This quiz is great!

I just posted my results on my blog:

http://jaktober.com/politico/barring-rnc-upset-im-voting-for...

90% Johnson, 87% Paul, 63% Stein.

Jack Wagner

Interestingly suspect

In every state this article lists, it has Gary Johnson as scoring higher than Dr. Paul. It also has some (edit) gal named Stein (Green Party candidate) as beating Dr. Paul in a few states.

I am not swayed. My support stays where it is.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Also keep in mind

people don't vote for who they most agree with. Most people don't know who they agree with. So this isn't a test that will give accurate election predictions, only where people actually stand.

Jack Wagner

It should be mandatory test

It should be mandatory test before voting! ;^)

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Blind policy tests put Nader at 1st in 2000

Stein should be up there higher than the President with most Libertarian leaning people. The Green (and even Socialist) platforms have more in common with the Libertarian platform than either do with the Republican and Democratic platforms (or rather, those of their candidates).

Jack Wagner

it is based on what people choose as their views

Take this test yourself and I bet 10$ GJ will be ahead of RP in your test as well.
http://www.isidewith.com/

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Nope

I got 99% Ron Paul!

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

90+% Ron Paul

so much for that...That doesn't make Johnson a bad guy though. Personally i am glad he's where he is...If Paul was smart he would join him after the convention... ;)

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I scored 100% Ron Paul. So

I scored 100% Ron Paul. So much for your theory.

Blessings )o(

Results?

I'm curious what your results were.

Jack Wagner

I did it twice

First time GJ 96% RP 92%
second time GJ 97 RP 94%

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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

It says i am 99% paul.

However, it says the same with Johnson. Apparently, Johnson and I share the same social conservative values which is not true based from his interviews. He doesn't have the same foreign policy as ron paul either, but the iside with makes it seem the same.

Can you be more specific?

What interviews?
Here GJ on foreign policy:
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues/foreign-policy

Before Ron Paul entered the presidential race he was asked who he would endorse if he decided not to run - this was his answer: Gary Johnson I can't see endorsing anyone else.

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He says

He says we need to keep our bases overseas and maintain humanitarian intervention (killing leaders is still overthrowing goverment). These ideas do not match noninterventionalism. We are still intervening when there is no direct threat to our security.

Let me remind you that you

Let me remind you that you have the following choices in November.

1. Really interventionist.
2. Really, really interventionist.
3. Zero to minimially interventionalist.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

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LOL! Doesn't that relate to picking the

Lesser/Lesser(mini me) of three evils. I will stick with Ron Paul. Thank you very much. I decided to not vote for the lesser of two evils back 5 yeasr ago. Why would I compromise and vote for the lesser of three evils this time around?

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

Well, primarily because

Well, primarily because perfect won't be on the ballot.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

I understand but my most important issue is abortion and

intervention second. The Constitution on morals issues only mention counterfeiting, piracy, treason, and slavery and leaves the rest of moral issues to the states. U.S. Supreme Court had no business dealing with this matter and should have only gone to State Supreme Court. They are all pro-choice. There are no options. I am not going to give in and vote for them just like Ron Paul won't give in and endorse Romney, Johnson, or Obama. Ron is my number one guy. If only Johnson would say leave it up to the states so I could deal with this matter on a local level, I would most definately consider him after Ron Paul, but as of now Ron is still running.

Actually, that is Johnson's

Actually, that is Johnson's basic premise.

He is personally against abortion, but has said he will choose states rights justices for SCOTUS. Ones that are likely to disagree with, even possibly overturn RvW. Just because he is against abortion doesn't mean he doesn't understand the Constitution or the 10th Amendment.

So in effect, the results are the same, even if it seems 180 degrees away.

Such is the world of politicians. One says east, the other says west, but they both mean north.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

No, he really doesn't say

No, he really doesn't say that at all.

What he says is that he wants to know the situation inside and out before saying "no, we won't intervene".

I think that is more practical.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

You still can't police the world.

It's nice to help people out, but it always hurts us in the end. There is evil everywhere in this world and that is why we should worry about ourselves until we are directly threatened. What good is the U.S. to the world if we are defenseless or bankrupt. Johnson does want to keep bases and does believe in humanitarian intervention.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/yes-gary-johnson-endorse....

http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/04/12/gary-johnson-libertarian-...

Okay, but your other choices

Okay, but your other choices are Obamney or Robamney.

What he is saying is that, yes, in theory, NO intervention. But he is also saying that he doesn't know if there is an exception to that rule where the compelling interest in life trumps an ideology.

How many people should be allowed to die for an ideology? We stopped the Bosnian war. But we let 100,000 people die first as we thought and thought and thought about it. Then we ended the whole affair in a couple of months. A textbook example of a humanitarian war.

I'm not saying we should run around doing that exactly, but when the aim of an army is genocide, that MUST be stopped because protecting human life IS a fundamental part of libertarianism.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Everything seems complicated because of

people who contradict themselves of protecting human life. I am pro-life and against war unless threatened, but there are people who are pro-choice and against the death penalty and people who are pro-life and and prowar. These two ideas totally contradict each other and are very well correlated with people's beliefs in the U.S. Johnson is pro-choice and antiwar unless genocide and other circumstances. There are more babies being killed every year than people dying of genocide. Killing millions and into the billions around the world is a genocide. Scientist all agree at conception the cells are living and human. If you can't protect the unborn, you have no foundation for liberty. This is all reiterated from Ron's book Liberty Defined.

Another note, I am not too fond of the U.N. and U.S. involvement. I thought that the U.N.'s job was to bring peace and development, based on the principles of justice, human dignity and the well-being of all people.If the U.S. wants to protect the life and liberty of all the people, they would tell the U.N. to stop trying to disarm U.S. citizens of their second amendment and allow the U.N. to visualize that a big reason many tyrannical goverments have had control over people with mass murders and genocide is due to those citizens being defensless. I have seen examples of protests in one Asian country, Burma, where people were fed up and even the monks, who are very highly respected, came in to help their countrymen; however, the dictatorship didn't respect the peoples' impatience with them and began to mow them down with their weapons and round them up. I do not think there was one person in that huge city who didn't protest. But in the end, it was peaceful protests againsts bullets and of course bullets won.

I do see your point. It would be great that everyone could maintain their liberties, but also I definitley think there are other approaches on the matter than becoming directly involved.

PS - not trying to convince

PS - not trying to convince you to vote for Gary, only that it is not as bad an option as portrayed by many.

I think a lot of people will go ahead and vote Ron Paul because he's the only liberty candidate that is pro-life and that's fine, the only hassle being is that it is not terribly useful if he's not on the ballot. The other option is Mittens, but is he pro-life or pro-choice today?

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"