Thank You RON PAUL -- Words From A 9/11-Truther (ME)
Sir, you are a gentleman 'First Class' // You have my respect and admiration for your issues and my continued and complete support for your endeavor becoming our next President -- to that end you have my vote in the coming election; and as I've said elsewhere in this forum, you are certainly Heaven-sent, and truly America's only hope.
I realize that the subject-line (above) may cause some to turn the channel -- and that's certainly their right and I do respect that -- but you see I am a 9/11-truth seeker and also a strong admirer and supporter of the issues that comprise your campaign efforts. I am that and more and all at the same time. The reason I write this morning is I wanted to comment on something you said in yesterday's South Carolina Debate as regards this matter:
-- First allow me to say that 'shifty-eyed' and 'lesser known' FOX News representative certainly took 'liberties' (and a darn good word that is) when he asked you a repeated question about the many supporters you have that come from the 9/11 truth movement. Now I know I am not quoting exactly here, and please forgive me for that but his question was completely inappropriate and clearly biased and hostile and should never have been asked and it certainly came about as no spur of the moment off-the-cuff attack upon you. It was planned in advance to discredit you, to associate you with 'a group' that some among us find confused and troubling.
It was obvious from the very asking that its intent was to paint you in an unfavorable corner, and yet, sir, you handled yourself like a true champion in response, saying you have no control over what people might think, that you personally don't subscribe to the 9/11 theories, and at the same time don't feel it is your place to try and make anyone think one way or the other on the subject. Thank you for that.
FOX News showed their biased-hand (dirty-fingernails and all) towards you when they omitted you from their table at a recent debate they sponsored.
And I know I don't need to remind you of this as you know this better than anyone, but it showed disrespect to you, then, as it showed disrespect and contempt to all of us that support your campaign, not all of which add up to be 9/11-truth seekers.
To FOX and those they truly represent it doesn't matter, they have an agenda to spread and that agenda does not include YOU or the American people that support YOU in any shape, form, or fashion. Not good them doing that to YOU (not good them doing that to us).
That 'shifty-eyed' FOX News representative that asked you that 'loaded' question only served to remind me that our individual rights (our freedom of thought, our freedom of speech) are constant targets by those that would seek to have it otherwise. In that regard, their question failed.
I am reminded of mob mentality where a faceless, nameless, certainly not blameless, VOICE might be heard SHOUTING from the back of an angry group -- SHOUTING in effort to direct that group in what can only at times best be described in opposition of good common sense. Sometimes that VOICE can be heard calling for a rope to hang the guilty bastard -- a VOICE with no concern for law, no respect for order -- just mob mentality directed by an evil that hides in the shadows and SHOUTS to be heard.
-- Well, I say FOX News can go find its own damn rope.
We (many of us, 'truthers' not the exception here) have been wise to their 'mob mentality tactics' for quite sometime.
I'm a 9/11-truther (the truth be known) and I support RON PAUL for President. One has nothing to do with the other.
Vote RON PAUL 2008.
I'm sorry but you're
I'm sorry but you're chopping up your paragraphs with slashes and it just makes me hate you, and want to kill you.
To TURPITUDE
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Thanks, you are right about me chopping up my paragraphs. Don't know why I do that, it does make it harder to read, harder to understand. I get your point. I went back and tried to fix the postings in hopes that you might change your mind about 'killing' me. That's funny (??) you saying that, but it's also a bit scary and a bit weird. Smile.
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It's like they were trying to make RP look like a cult leader.
What's next? "Candidates, tell your people they can't support you unless they sign an affidavit swearing they believe Oswald killed JFK!"
about 'truthers'
first off i like your open letter to uh... fox news and RP. a long read but good sentiment.
Its a shame that questioning 9/11 even now is such a vile topic amongst popular opinion, at least in the political sense. Your right about one thing, everytime fox omits ron paul, they omit the current statistical 10% of us republican/independent voters who've voted for him.
A note about 'truthers', If anyone presented all of the coincidences and happenstances that occurred that day, not to mention a few months prior leading up to that day, theyd be a food NOT to question the story. the rhetoric seared into the minds of the masses has clearly shown that there shall be no questioning of the official story and the rest of us are clowns, and it is unfortunately to our own folly.
My continuing thoughts on the subject
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Hi there. Wanted to say I appreciate many of your remarks as regards the 'idea' that it has somehow become WRONG to even discuss such topics as this. I like what many of you have said in this regard. And for you that think otherwise, my intent was to express gratitude towards RON PAUL and not turn this into a 9/11 debate.
As I explained in this opening thread, I don't see how concern for TRUTH has anything negative to do with supporting RON PAUL one way or the other.
I personally drive a Honda car but that's my choice; and a lot went into me making that decision and for me to shell out the $$ to get that car. In other words, I didn't do it based upon which way the wind was blowing that day, I did some research on the subject and then made what I considered to be the best decision. We each have reason(s) why we do or why we believe the things we do, and yet because of that, it's not always such a major obstacle where we might not otherwises be able to join in thought with someone just because they happen to drive another type of automobile; nor do we find it impossible to discuss (intelligently) when it comes to preference in a sports team we bond with.
THOSE KIND OF SILLY THINGS DON'T DICTATE WHO WE ARE.
Not unless we allow it to do that; and those that do allow it are oftentimes a bit lame-brained, I think.
To start HATING a person just because they choose a Honda over a Ford. That'd be lame-brained; the same goes for HATING a person just because they choose a chocolate shake over the vanilla taste. What I'm trying to say is there are many reasons we choose the way we do. Sometimes it just boils down to preference and it's no big deal one way or the other; and then other times it's because we have put some serious not always easy thought behind the choices we make, choices which we sometimes can find ourself no longer part of the 'in crowd' as to certain beliefs we hold. Religion and politics are two biggies in that regard.
And as it is when it comes to the subject of 9/11 -- it's become an entirely different animal; some people become angry at the messenger and just don't want to hear a damn thing about it. They go out of their way to find fault in any person that would even remotely entertain such 'wild' thoughts. FOX News tried to make it that (they are the ones that tried to make it a subject for discussion) when it was completely inappropriate them doing that; coming from left field it attempted to single RP out as it had nothing at all to do with the topics then being discussed. It took a man of intelligence (RON PAUL) to politely but firmly remind FOX News of this; upon which time RP did return to the topic being discussed as the others stood smiling on stage.
As you will surely recall, later in the debate RON PAUL was interrupted in mid-stream (in mid-speech) by yet another FOX News representative simply because the person didn't agree with the remarks being made by RP. There was some discussion back and forth (some loud laughs heard coming from the FOX News table) after which RON PAUL completed his thoughtful message regarding Iran, etc. This ended with a smiling ROMNEY beginning his own remarks by making an 'off-color' joke aimed entirely at RON PAUL's expense to which a visibly angry RP answered under his breath:
-- 'Laugh it up, buddy!'
Is it just me or have you also noticed that at the end of these debate sessons the folks standing on stage seem to distance themself from our hero, as they turn and leave him standing pretty much alone as they reach to shake hands with each other and congratulate themself for the outstanding job they each did in spreading their lies?
Well, RON PAUL isn't alone on that stage. There are hundreds of thousands of us watching and listening and supporting him and his issues.
Vote RON PAUL 2008 and help take back our wonderful country from the gangsters and lame-brained that would have us lock step right off the cliff as they continued to smile and shake hands and congratulate each other in the doing of it.
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LOL!!
Thank you for the much needed humor.
Truthers
I dislike that label too.
The thing is "Truthers", many folks are still not ready to hear that and it's a detriment to the campaign, like it or not, that's the truth.
I am a skeptic by nature and RP nut, it took me awhile to even consider that.
It's like finally breaking the news to your kid that there really is no Santa Claus. Tell them too early and it'll completely blow their minds. Maybe that's part of my problem, I woke up too early and walked in on my mom and dad eating Santa's cookies under the Christmas tree, naked!
Yikes!
Please delete this whole
Please delete this whole stupid, un-useful thread.
and flag it.
9-11
maryj
I am a 9-11 truther also.
I am sure just as those involved in the action to take out the twin towers are sure that when President Paul takes office ****after we elect him *****that we will have a friendly ear in his administration.
An honest investigation will take place and that is one of the many reasons that fox (ignore the facts) to get along with their handlers.
Liberty is our campaigns gift to the world it is our manifest destiny.
Freedom is a movement who's time has come. Our campaign will lead world wide freedom.
It's not the simple...
I don't think it's a simple as you believe or you don't. The problem with that mentality is that it makes people either say "No I don't believe any of it, it's exactly as the official story says".. But it's not like those who investigate or question it all go "George Bush" did it!!!!.
I think it's more of a common gray area and what attracts this subject to people is how all the events and explainations do not add up. I can go into my own personal views on this issue, but publically I will say that I have seen tons of things to question, like the obvious omission of WTC-7 in the Commission book.
However it's lets remember that it is all a ploy to divide us and make us lose our common goal of supporting Ron Paul.
My BIGGEST Pet Peeve with "Truthers" are the militant idiots that jump in peoples face and scream "9/11 was an inside job!!!" Or they jump in people face and say" He's a member of the CFR therefore he's the devil!!!".
What good does that do? Seriously what good does it do to be an asshole and yell at some drone in a monkey suit? If anything it furthers people slanted view of "truthers" being raving maniacs..
People need to be intelligent about this stuff, but again don't let it divide us, question EVERYTHING let alone 9/11. The mainstream is just scared because they never saw this coming...
Regards,
David F
www.myspace.com/asymptote
Regards,
David F
www.myspace.com/asymptote
The only thing I dislike about 9/11 truthers....
is the term "9/11 Truthers".
Let's face the truth.... A person is either a truth-seeker, or they are not. There's no in-between, and 9/11 has nothing to do with it.
In relation to 9/11, either a person doesn't want to know the total truth about what happened, and thus hides behind an irrational cover story, or they want to know the total truth, and thus have questions. The former is not a truth-seeker, the latter is a truth-seeker. The only relevance of 9/11 is that it's an issue charged with fear and emotion more than any other, thus it tests to the limit a person's commitment to truth. A lot of people who considered themselves truth-seekers found their limit, and decided to retreat, because truth-seeking suddenly became too dangerous and damaging to the psyche.
So let's all at least be honest enough to drop the 9/11, and just recognize that a person either wants and lives truth, or not.
It was FOX
It was FOX who first tried to associate Paul with the Truthiers at beginning of his rising campaign.
FOX of course you know is still at it.
Basically Smear Jobs!
Davy C Rockett
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Let's face it
"It was FOX who first tried to associate Paul with the Truthiers at beginning of his rising campaign."
Truthers are all over the internet, with their support for RP and their wacky theories. Fox never needed to associate the truthers with Paul as they did it themselves. Paul needs to distance himself as he did last night saying he does not agree with them.
Why are we so scared to talk
Why are we so scared to talk about it. Since everyone seems to trust Zogby in their polls so much, have we overlooked these polls??
http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855
http://www.zogby.com/features/features.dbm?ID=231
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1354
Im sure this post will get flagged. Seems like everything does around here.
Well, I am not sure if I am a truther or not...
but with all of the preposterous shit that is going on in this country, I am not sure anything can be ruled out. The truth does deserve some respect.
Since the campaign has asked for suggestions...
It would be nice to turn this around on the establishment. Ron Paul has talked about the need for more openness and transparency in government, and he should rightly point out that an atmosphere of secrecy and executive privilege create an environment that causes conspiracy theories to grow and fester. If they have nothing to hide, they certainly create an awful lot of doubt and give rise to these theories just by the way they handle themselves.
5% of people make things happen
10% of people watch things happen
85% say "What happened?"
The arguing is pathetic (and yet here I go about to argue back)
Who is anyone to tell people what to believe, and what not to believe? I'm SO sick of seeing people argue on this board. Can't we forget our differences and focus our energy toward getting Dr. Paul elected? So what if there are truthers, they're (we're) entitled to their (our) opinions. You don't see us attacking you because you refuse to recognize the truth. Have you seen Loose Change? Have you done any research? If not, then who are you to say what you know as the truth. I don't bring 9/11 up often because I do not want to hurt Dr. Paul's campaign, but I'm so tired of the truthers being slammed. I'm JUST as normal as any one of you. I work very hard at an investment bank (yes, I know, but I need to earn a living), I have two cats and a dog, I exercise, read often, shop, go to the movies. Do you see my point? I am completely normal. Look, I was in the first tower when it was hit. I don't mention that to make myself look important because by no means am I. I mention it because 9/11 is an extremely important issue in my book, for obvious reasons it hits very close to home for me. If you don't like what I believe FINE, but stop attacking me like I'm some kind of freak. Because the truth is, if I never said one word about 9/11, you probably would think I'm the most normal, level headed person you've met. (and by 'attacking me' I mean me and my fellow truthers).
9/11 "truther"
A 9/11 "truther" I am not, I don't have enough facts ..... but a 9/11 skeptic, count me in. Do I know all the facts? No. Does the main story answer all the questions? Nope. Do we need more investigations? Yes.
And on that score, I believe Dr. Paul is a 9/11 skeptic like me and, MOST Americans.....Dr Paul said that he believes that the 9/11 report was like many such "investigations" a white washing by government of its own ineptness. That is enough for me.
Treg
you are not alone
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Divide and Rule...
It's an easy tactic where they want to make Ron Pauls base fight amongst each other, and/or feel "betrayed" by Ron Paul. If you got suckered into this then you need to re-evaluate your stance.
Ron Paul is the only chance we have to take this country back. you have a right to question 9/11 and everything else under the sun, since when is it wrong to question something?
I find it interesting how they are so focus'd on dismissing 9/11 and selling to the masses that there is somehow a dangerous group of crazies, when in reality it's just average americans questioning the official version..
Don't let the media trick you, EVERYONE regardless of your view on 9/11 need to embrace and fight for Ron Paul.. DO NOT LET THEM TEAR US APART!!!!!
Regards,
David F
www.myspace.com/asymptote
Regards,
David F
www.myspace.com/asymptote
Obviously -- It Was A Question
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But certainly not an appropriate question WHEN ALL OF US ALREADY KNOW (yourself included) what RON PAUL's campaign issues are // 9/11 is not one of them.
There is no way he can be directly responsible for me or for you or for anybody that supports his efforts. And that's the point here.
The question was formed for him to put his head in the noose, to hold the rope with one hand while he stood on the soap box that THEY THINK all us 9/11 folks search for. Well they got it wrong.
And remember I'm a truther also // and you have to honestly be a serious one in order to know what that truly means //
RON PAUL knows what he's doing. They don't think so, but he does.
-- We want HIM as our President.
Leave it at that.
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Betcha
Live Free Or Die
every candidate has at least some truthers in support of them. Why are they not called for it. Oh, that's right.
Live Free Or Die
Stop advertising it
yeah yeah, you're a truther. Now take Paul's advice, and keep it to yourself from now on. Advertising it hurts Paul's campaign.
You Miss The Point Entirely
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I have a close friend who is pro choice
Her voting decision is based on that one issue.
We are fighting for freedom.
Freedom is FOR EVERYONE.
Your issue or her issue or their issues divide you from the central point. FREEDOM.
Needing to have your issue validated by others is not the game here.
I really have to stretch when I think that we are fighting for Hannity and Cavuto and all of these people who are fighting us now, but, we are because this is about everyone.
Unify
I heard it said somewhere
I heard it said somewhere that "I might not agree with what you say, but I will fight like heck to defend your right to say it"
The way I look at it is...
Even if Ron Paul doesn't in anyway think that 911 was an inside job–he fights for individual rights. SO unlike the current administration he would not get in the way of anybody trying to find the truth...know what I mean.
EXACTLY
EXACTLY
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
Hey McCain-----┌П┐(◣_◢)┌П┐
Dude...
Did you not hear Paul's advice to you in the debate? Stop talking about 9/11 truth and being a 9/11 truther. It's hurts his campaign. If you want to support him fine, but just don't reveal you're a truther. People see that Paul has 9/11 truther supporters and it make the average person want to get as far away as possible, including seeing it here on dailypaul.
So either you believe in one 911 conspiracy
or you believe in RP?