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Ok this is killing me and I can't stay silent anymore

I am fed up with people talking about who they will vote for if Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination. Doesn't Gary Johnson have his own page? He doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell of winning, and Ron Paul does, is it a slim chance? absolutely but not impossible. So if you are touting Gary Johnson go to his page and talk all you want, if you are someone that thinks Paul can't win, I am sure there is a page for that too, but it isnt this one. We have all worked long and hard, now is not the time to throw in the towel , and pick another candidate who can't win,

I am not even convinced a little bit the Romney can beat Obama.

We need to keep pushing this issue . Ron Paul CAN WIN, and only he can beat Obama. So pull up your boots and lets get back to work. If Ron Paul Doesnt win then you can start worrying about second choices, if your a wimp...I will write him in on principle, he is my choice, I dont have a second choice, and I won't for this election.

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So Glad you wrote what you wrote...

You know, it is simply common sense that ONLY President Paul has what it takes to return the USA to full HEALTH... Deleah and I totally agree with your thinking about Romney and Obama...both, in our view, have not addressed the REAL issues as has Dr. Paul.

Thank you for your solid views on how you feel about those who would come here for any other reason except that to get Ron Paul officially elected as our ONLY President of the United States.

fearless brave joyful peaceful loving grateful, compassionate

Paul has a 0% chance of being elected, as planned by his staff.

his own staff made sure paul didn't have a hoot of a chance as 'education' was the main goal of the campaign. so drop it - paul hasn't been campaigning for months. and paul is buddies with his destructive pal romney. johnson is not buddies with romney and doesn't have family that endorsed him and lavished romney with praise.

you have a great fear of libertarian ideals and libertarianism advancing. hence, you pretend like paul has any chance. you know he doesn't, but in order to help obamney you bash johnson or lib party.

jj

If theres anybody closer to

If theres anybody closer to the constitution then Congressman Ron Paul, then let me know! just think about how long he's been doing this man! yeah his son rand endorsed romney, but he didnt! when its all said and done Ron Paul will be remembered forever!

juan maldonado

Debating who we will vote for IS a distraction.

But I disagree that anyone who thinks Ron Paul can't or won't win the presidency should leave this site.

You think Dr. Paul can still win the nomination. Great! I hope he does.

But we STILL need to be discussing strategies for what we should be doing BESIDES trying to get him elected.

In fact, at this point, the whole presidential race is a distraction for us.

The fact is, as the presidential election process proceeds, we will have less and less to do that will have any significant impact on the outcome.

Sorry, to burst your bubble, but our greatest opportunities to effect the outcome have come and gone. (If our Gideon's band of patriots couldn't win a single primary state for Ron, what makes you think that all of a sudden our home made signs are going to swing millions of votes?)

No, when Ron Paul wins the nomination, RON PAUL'S voice will suddenly be heard around the world, but OUR voices will be drowned out by the millions of people and tens of millions of dollars that are already dedicated to defeating Obama. When that happens it will be essentially out of our hands.

But win OR lose, we will still have a major task ahead of us; transforming the Republican Party into a tool for lasting libertarian change.

If Ron Paul wins the presidency (or "when" if you prefer) we will still be desperately needed to help Ron Paul accomplish THAT task.

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The Virtual Conspiracy

It would be kind of like...

summitting Mt. Everest.

Ron Paul

What if Ron Paul gets gets behind G J as vice Pres. they win and then Gary steps down. And then the real President steps up President Paul (Maybe just wishful thinken) lol. However if RP is not the nominee I will vote G.J. ;D

Why are we running scared?

Why are we running scared? Romney is an illegitimate candidate - the product of a fraudulent manipulation. No one should ever accept that he is the "candidate", the "presumed candidate" or the "inevitable candidate." We should refuse to concede that Romney has "won" when it is clear that the Republican establishment, in desperation, rushed to annoint Romney - because they were afraid to wait for the convention. If they are so frightened, what are we afraid of?

Gave you a bump...

because no one should be running anywhere, except to Tampa for Ron Paul.

But, be prepared! "If they are so frightened," they will resort to very ugly tactics to silence our voices.

Ok so tell me

how many stealth delegate do we have? and how and what are you going to do at the convention to either get Ron Paul to win or our platform in place?

If Johnson steeped down to VP and allowed Dr. Paul top BiLLing?

If Gary Johnson stepped down in a selfless move and gave his republican Presidential nomination to Dr. Paul becoming Dr. Paula VP, would you go for it??

I'm in it to win and this puts him on the Presidential ballot. Also we believe we may have found a way for Dr. Paul to be on the ballot in all 50 states as an Independent. Would you vote for him as an Independent and would it fray the vote, running apart from Johnson.

Which of these scenarios, do you like better?

NO One but PauL 2012!!! WE WILL Win!!

And.. I believe alot of those who say "vote Johnson" are not J
ohnson supporters but Romney trolls trying to divide and conquer..

Absolutely right. Here's how:

We're talking about a surefire way to make Paul the POTUS over here:

http://www.dailypaul.com/245936/how-dr-paul-can-still-become...

HONEST RON 2012!
LEGALIZE LIBERTY!

Cheers to you

Ron has not dropped out and has said that he is in this to the end. Then so am I!! No I don't want to limit free speech here but you would think out of respect for this site and those that have been working hard for years towards this election, those that have decided to support and vote for Johnson would take it elsewhere for the time being. At the very least dedicate and devote threads to Gary and stop cluttering up those that are dedicated to supporting Ron.

"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"

And a vote for Ron Paul IS

-- a vote for RON PAUL.
It is not a vote for Obama or Mitt.

If people who say they want Paul, but he can't win, keep pushing that stupid line that a vote for Paul is really for someone else, you will lose this for us.
If you want Paul, vote your conscience. I am.

We had SOME proof, but RNC does not care about Rules n Laws- they just break and then change 'em to suit whomever (not PAUL).

I'm not for banning anyone. But...

Banning people and limiting speach is not what we stand for. It seems to me that the problem we are a facing is that the people who are hijacking threads get the power to do so from us. They change thier spots and appear to be something they are not from one thread to the next. I'm sure multiple logins are involved to comment on there own comments and posts. This is confusing all of us as to who these people really are. I see a few names I can consistently pick out.

Here is my suggestion. Lets make this a running thread or a list of the names of the prople who consistently hijack threads. Like the "no fly list" only it is a "no comment list".

We could keep the list so we can all start to see exactly who these people are and know them by name. If we simply make them known and stop enguaging them we could severly lessen thier impact.

This way we are not abandoning our principles by banning people.This is the only way I can see to combat this problem and not be hypocrits of the values we believe in.

We can simply cut and paste the shortcut to thier homepage and make thier profiles and comments known to all. That way we can see who they are and judge thier words from previous posts. I will start it off.

Wrong!

The Granger is a Patriot and has been fighting harder than anyone for Ron Paul on the front lines, inside the neocon GOP. I suspect you don't even have an ounce of the backbone and honesty she has to fight in the belly of the beast. The Granger has taken Dr. Paul's call to heart and has followed his lead all they way to the GOP.

While I do not agree with her on voting for Mittens, SHOULD HE BE THE NOMINEE, I understand her reasons for doing so. She is on the front lines in the war for Liberty. Where are you?

Granger wrote "We are the Establishment".

and also wrote that liberty will never win.

granger is soley on obamney-dnc/gop's side. she/he feels that everyone should be mainstream as well, and that is her mission. of course, some rp supporters are as sick and delusional and demented as granger is. ultimately, granger's goal is to sabotage libertariansim and even paul, by working alongside paul's crony cfr/bilderberg staff.

jj

That is what is called libel.

I strongly suggest you delete your comment before someone else sees it as being a threat to this website.

John Ashman

Yes

John Ashman AKA Agent 56009

and Lib, does not seem to make much sense and flip flops from thread to thread.

remember add the link so we

Remember add the link so we can all see what they have posted. Hope this idea takes off.

Gary Johnson...

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

Gary Johnson has less of a chance as Ron Paul did last election.

Until Ron Paul comes out and says, "change of plans, please vote for GJ..." then I wish Gary all the best NEXT ELECTION. But for now, Gary needs to sit back on the sidelines - he doesnt have the momentum or the money.

You need a grassroots movement bigger that RPF and the DailyPaul. Gary doesnt even have a Daily Johnson so give it up...he's not a contender.

In order to win an election you either need Ron Paul's endorsment, or Goldman Sachs. Period.

You are using the same lines media uses on Ron's electability.

saying johnson has less of a chance, when the facts and polls and evidence and actual numbers point a different way, is a slap on the face for liberty.

clearly, this is the lying-cheating movement.

jj

Who do YOU think...

the R's and D's are most worried about in November - Ron Paul or Gary Johnson?

Please respond honestly...

it's because they are worried about Ron Paul

that the CFR created "libertarian" Gary Johnson. Getting him into the LP presidential slot to block it from being given to Ron Paul if he fails to win the GOP nomination, earned his handler Doug Turner a move up inside the CFR.

Paul's staff are all CFR/Bilderberg/DNC-GOP estab.

Gary has issues iwth his staff, but it is much less of an issue than paul has. Paul's staff is as bad as Romney, in fact it is full of romney cronies who set up a destructive fake friendship b/w paul and romney.

Paul would never, never run on the libertarian ticket, unless there was a major miracle. Paul loves gop and romney. paul wouldn't even help or endorse johnson or any liberty candiadte that would challenge obamney.

w/ or w/out cfr, there would be a candidate for lib party.

jj

evidence?

jj, can you list some supporting evidence to your claim that Paul's staff are all CFR/Bilderberg? Thank you.

Jefferson Paine

Chalk one up...

for the 1st Amendment to the Constitution.

It's not GJ and it's not even

It's not GJ and it's not even that he is being brought up on DP so much as how it is non-stop and the manner in which it is done.

"As the circle of light increases, so does the circumference of darkness around it." - Albert Einstein
"Now, more than ever, the choice between Obama and Romney will be which one do you want to ruin your country?" ~ Wead

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Could not agree more!