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Enough with the False Flag Speculation

Enough with the False Flag speculation. Driving me batshit. I didn't hear all this shit when the Columbine School shooting happened, or Virginia Tech, or the many different post offices. When I get to the point where I'm bitching about people aren't listening to me, it means I'm correct. That's not ego, that's fucking fact and has been proven over and over. Only thing worse than people crying out for more gun control because of this tragedy is my compatriots in the Revolution jumping the gun and crying wolf. Everyone is entitled, say what you wish, but if you're blaming the government for this attack instead of the individual(s) responsible, a fucked up society, and apathetic movie goers you need to take a step back, deep breath, take a few years of psychology at university, study up on spree killers, and watch the movie 15 Minutes. I'm done.



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No...

what we have had enough of is blind acceptance of whatever crock of sh*t the lying government and the lying corporate media try to feed us. I don't believe a single word of what the media has reported about the theater shootings except that 1) a bunch of people were shot at a theater showing the new batman movie, and 2) that's it. Nothing else.

I'm not even convinced that the man they are holding and presenting in court as james holmes is even the real james holmes. Why not? well, look at this:

http://rense.com/general95/realjames.html

You are not helping anyone but the enemy by discouraging people from critical thinking. If you want to go on living in your delusional world because you cannot handle the actual world we live in, well don't bother the rest of us with your foolishness.

Once again

If government tells you it's sunny outside, grab an umbrella and check for yourself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKftRlzh2RM&feature=related

George Carlin

Thanx,

Jason

You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

And this

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/07/28/aurora-shootings-who...

2 Chron 7:13-14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Read This

Then get back to us on that crap. http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/war/terro...

skippy

shut up and go stick your

shut up and go stick your head back in the sand.

Intriguing History

When I first learned of "False Flag" attacks it was 2007. When I first learned of the NWO it was 1997. I, of course, did not believe anything about it but I watched and waited for years to see if some of the things that were discussed would turn out to be true. In fact when I read years ago that Lybia, Syria and other nations would be attacked by American forces leading up to WWIII I shrugged them off. Now we are in Lybia and Syria. When I read about the attack on Iran setting in motion world events I shrugged it off. Now we are discussing attacking Iran.
When I read about the demonization of our second amendment rights by using a series of incidents involving massacres of innocent civilians I shrugged it off. I don't know what is really happening here but the historical precedent was set decades ago. If you have read about the NWO then you know. There is no need for speculation. Get informed!

This has gone from irritating

This has gone from irritating to infuriating to down right absurd. like giving pills to a dead man. What a wonderful encounter with the black sheep of the Liberty Movement. To hell with all reason! Enjoy your self imposed nightmares about the government's plot to bring a comic book villain to real life so they can take our guns away. LOL...right. I'm through with this one...the peanut gallery may talk among yourselves.

RLW IV

Yes the plot to enforce more

Yes the plot to enforce more gun control on its citizens, and the day after the massacre the Democratic pet to Obama Governor of Colorado says, "I don't think that any more gun control would have prevented this massacre." Today Obama comments on citizens not having AK-47s, which I am pretty sure has already been established and even most gun owners don't believe people should have access to those. These conspiracies are becoming laughable.

I'm a gun owner and any

I'm a gun owner and any citizen should have what ever rifle they want. be it an AK or an m16. the 1968 gun control act should be abolished. there should be no registration of any firearm PERIOD.

+1

at last we agree on something

Want some more evidence, Bubba?

Go to 5:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW9eevSPogI

2 Chron 7:13-14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Trying to Stop

these people from making us all look foolish is a waste of time. All you can do is ignore them and eventually they fall asleep exhausted from typing all their crazy garbage.

was law enforcement correct...

Was law enforcement correct about the JFK and RFK and MLK assassinations? Was law enforcement correct about the Columbine massacre, in which 101 witnesses state they saw other shooters? Was law enforcement correct about the lone duo of plotters in the Oklahoma bombing? Was law enforcement correct about 9/11?

In all cases—no.

not going to sit here and

not going to sit here and waste my time giving you 1000 examples to every one of yours on the times they were right.

RLW IV

because you are so tight in

because you are so tight in the head you can't think.

Because you can't?

If it is shown, even once, that our government is capable of covering up the truth, then it will ALWAYS be a question of what ELSE didn't they tell us.

There are a lot of things about the Aurora shooting that don't make a dimes worth of sense. Yet within a day or so of the shooting, the Chief of Police stated he had the lone gunman.

The police couldn't possibly have followed up on every lead. There is no way they figured out how he got his money and whether or not anyone else was involved. So why the rush to judgement?

Is the government hiding anything? It is reasonable to question and speculate in the face of the many questions left open.

I feel like its getting to

I feel like its getting to the point where people almost wish everything is a government conspiracy, so they will fight tooth and nail to speculate till it must be true.

holy shit a voice of reason

holy shit a voice of reason among the chaos.

RLW IV

Columbine was in 1999.

People were not quite as suspicious as they are today, since 2001.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Well Alien - even Ben Swann thinks something is suspect

We are not "the fringe", maybe you are

http://www.wxix.com/story/19104797/reality-check-unanswered-...

And Veterans Today:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/07/22/aurora-asking-the-ri...

And the Denver Post:

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21126462/real-life-shootin...

2 Chron 7:13-14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

so how many people have you

so how many people have you gotten to take a look at Ron Paul in the past few days saying the shooting is a government conspiracy?

RLW IV

I'm not following you

Are you asking if I've tried to "sell" Ron Paul to anyone using the conspiracy angle?

2 Chron 7:13-14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

you sound frustrated--

I have not voted you down--

I don't listen to Alex Jones; I've only heard a few youtube clips of him--

he's quite sensational and very loud--

(and I'm not a follower)

I commend you for all that you have done.

Others are doing what they feel is right to do--

including ask questions.

But, as I wrote above, you sound frustrated. The liberty movement has had a tremendous battle on 'its' hands, and it doesn't always appear that *we* are going to succeed.

But everyone has his/her strengths/weaknesses--

when other DPers say "the government", I think that most people assume that means that all the senators, representatives, and the entire executive branch knows everything that is happening, and I don't believe that is true. I think some do, but not all, by any means.

The problem is that nobody even really knows what "the government" is anymore--

it's become such a huge labyrinth, so convoluted and complicated--

where does "the government" begin, and where does it end? I don't know. I would like to know, which is why I ask questions.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I thought you were a liberty advocate...

You say you have done all these things to promote liberty, yet you tell folks here at DP who have a different opinion than you to shut up.

I have to ask, what type of liberty are you promoting? Liberty where people are free to agree with you or liberty where people can have a different opinion than you and are free to express it?

Guess what. It doesn't really matter what you think people should do. They will do what they want with or without your approval of their actions. It sux I know, but what can one do about it? One can either not pay attention to opinions that are different than their own, or tell them to shut up because they are not free to express their opinions because they are different.

I'm a strategically smart

I'm a strategically smart liberty advocate. While these jokers are sitting around crying conspiracy, they are missing out on the opportunity to further promote 2nd Amendment Rights which the country is crying out for. What they are doing is worthless and a waste of time yelling about something they can never prove. That's why I say Shut Up. People are wasting time and resources looking like whack jobs to the people we're trying to pull in to the Liberty movement. Answer me this one question...all of you. What is going to help the Revolution? Saying this is a False Flag Government Conspiracy or encouraging people to go get concealed permits and open carry and buy a hand gun and buy an AR15? Yeah, pretty sure those on the fence about Ron Paul and the Revolution are not going to jump on board because everyone is claiming mind control. It is nothing but strategically stupid. So yes, I'm pissed off and frustrated because of the obvious political ignorance.

RLW IV

Well,

I guess you'll have a hard frustrating life then. You know, we don't have the first amendment so we can talk about the weather...

Like I said before, it won't make any difference what you think is right or wrong for people to do. They are going to do what they want to no matter if you you agree with their actions or not.

I would be inclined to believe that a smart person would figure that out on their own.

I didn't swear an oath to

I didn't swear an oath to defend the Constitution with my life if need be to waste my First Amendment Rights talking about baseless bullshit either. I would be inclined to believe that a smart person would figure that out on their own as well.

RLW IV

I know you won't answer but I have to ask...

Why would you give your life if need be defending the First Amendment only to insist that anyone that expresses an opinion that you don't agree with should shut up?

Now I am confused...

Why would you make this post if not to talk about it?

That doesn't even make sense. But, I'm not "Strategically Smart" like you are.

If you notice, I have not said one thing one way or the other on this shooting. I was merely pointing out the irony of you promoting liberty while demanding that others shut up who have opinions (on the shooter subject) different than yours. That too, doesn't add up.

Also notice, that unlike you, I have never made the claim of being smart.

So, which of your opinions are not okay to disagree with? Just this one, or are there others as well?