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Why we should ALL support Gary Johnson

To kick things off I would first like to say that I 100% support Dr. Paul and I want to see him in the White House as much as anyone else here. I firmly believe that he has a shot at winning the nomination barring any funny business by the RNC between now and Tampa. That being said, we should also be supporting Gary Johnson with just as much enthusiasm. Why? Wouldn't it be nice to have Dr. Paul AND Gary Johnson up on a stage against President Obama? By upping his polling numbers, he will have the opportunity to participate in the presidential debates. Imagine, two liberty minded individuals speaking against one tyrant. I think a two-on-one scenario would be very advantageous to our message and pursuit of liberty. I understand that there are those that will say that by having Gary Johnson in the run against Dr. Paul he might filter away votes costing Paul the election. It is entirely possible that could happen, but I believe that people would mostly vote Republican in that scenario simply because of the proliferation of the two party system.

I know there are those of you out there that are going to wait to find out how things play out at Tampa. I understand your goal of getting Dr. Paul the nomination, as that is my goal as well. But, if we do not show support for Gary Johnson and Dr. Paul does not receive the nomination, it may be too late to have Gary Johnson polling high enough to be a part of the debates at all, and we as liberty seekers would have lost a valuable voice at a crucial time. We lose nothing by supporting BOTH Gary Johnson and Dr. Paul. Both are fighting for liberty at a time when we need it most. I understand that Johnson may not be our ideal candidate, but I would rather we fight to give the American people the option of evil vs. really really great vs. really really awesome. Goldman Sachs supports two candidates, why shouldn't we?

Update: I am seeing down votes and negative comments (which I half expected), but I am not sure why. Yes, I advocated on behalf of someone other than Dr. Paul. I understand that this is a pro-Dr. Paul website, but I also thought this was a place where we gathered to work together, "Dedicated to restoring constitutional government to the United States of America." At least, that is what it says at the top of the page. I re-read my post and no where does it say, "Do not vote for Dr. Paul," so why all of the assumption and hatred? Was I wrong about the Daily Paul being a pro-liberty site for pro-liberty people? Or has it become a strict Paul fan club where the liberty movement hinges on Dr. Paul? If so, what is going to happen if Dr. Paul does not win the nomination? What about when he retires? Will we all just pack up and go home so to speak? Please tell me, what is so wrong about saying, we as Dr. Paul supporters, a man who supports liberty, should also support Gary Johnson? See that word, support? Not vote, support. I am not asking to replace Dr. Paul with Gary Johnson, I am merely saying if we care about the liberty message and getting it out to as many people as possible, why would we ignore Johnson? If he is polling at 15% he can attend the presidential debates. If both he and Dr. Paul are there, we have TWO people talking about pro-liberty solutions. For once, this is just about the liberty message! If we want to change people's perception, we need to show them as much as we can. We need to make it too hard for them to ignore the message. Please, someone explain how the message of liberty is harmed if we, as Dr. Paul supporters also support Gary Johnson.



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"...I 100% support Dr. Paul..."

Me, too. Now, hold that thought, and you are where I'm at.

I support Gary Johnson.

I support Gary Johnson. Doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him though.

Exactly!

That is what I am talking about!

You are a model of reason.

You are a model of reason.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Damnit person, Ron Paul is

Damnit person, Ron Paul is still not out yet. There is no reason to say anything about Gary Johnson; here in particular.(at least until after the convention)

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

I am not counting out Dr. Paul, not even close.

I am not counting out Ron Paul at all. The entire post was regarding pushing the message of liberty, because we do have to consider that as a goal. If we delay our support of Gary Johnson until after Tampa, it may be too late to get him into the debates. If that happens, and Dr. Paul is not the nominee, then those of us who support the message of liberty are going to be left out of the debates. All I am saying is that we should show Johnson some support. By all means, keep fighting for Dr. Paul to win, I know I am. But, it is not going to hurt Dr. Paul or the liberty message at all to support Johnson. Sometimes we really do have to consider the message and what we can do to get it out to as many people as possible. Supporting Gary Johnson so that he can be a part of the presidential debates would be a good move.

Think about it, if Mittens wins the nom, we still have Johnson talking about liberty. If Dr. Paul gets the nom, we can have BOTH Dr. Paul and Johnson talking about liberty vs. Obama. Would that really be such a bad thing?

Yes, 100%.

Do you have a problem with arithmetic? You cannot support Dr. Paul 100% and urge support for Johnson at the same time. I would like to say for you to move on now, but you won't. Better luck next time... and leave arithmetic out of it next time. We got your number, too.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

That's like saying you can't

That's like saying you can't love raspberries if you love strawberries.

On I side with, I am 98% aligned with Gary and 96% with Ron. So according to you, I can't support Ron Paul at all.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Wow, that comment is dripping with disdain...

Wow, what is with the hatred? You can support both candidates 100%. What makes you believe that you cannot? Is there some rule somewhere that says you cannot support two liberty minded candidates? I am not going to "move on" simply because you do not agree with my assertion. I believe that the liberty movement does not live and die by Dr. Paul. There is nothing wrong with supporting another pro-liberty candidate, is there? I am not advocating for anyone to stop supporting Paul, all I am saying is that if we want to most for the liberty movement, we need to welcome Johnson into the fold. My post is talking directly about the message of liberty and the more people we can have on a national scale talking about it, the better off we all will be. Your fallacy about 100% support only works with actual voting, and I can assure you that if Dr. Paul is on the ballot, I will be voting for him no questions asked. But, until voting day comes, there is no reason that we all cannot throw our support behind both Gary Johnson and Dr. Paul to spread the message of liberty.

Two seperate causes can be

Two seperate causes can be supported 100 percent.. unless you are in fact implying that Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are in fact one cause of support?? Which would be like banishment according to most people on the dailypaul.

I'm with you friend!!!

I'm with you friend!!!

Thank you.

Thank you for understanding and supporting the idea.