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Vote Gary Johnson or Write in Ron Paul? - Adam Kokesh Picks Johnson

Adam Kokesh explains why voting for Gary Johnson is preferable to writing in Ron Paul

http://youtu.be/_2kg_LrwKNU




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I think

there are a lot of people posting here that have never been Ron Paul or Gary Johnson supporters yet we entertain this idiotic divisiveness daily.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

jaseed's picture

If R. J. Harris

was LP nominee, then they might have something going.
Adam has lost my attention

"My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them".
Senator Barry Goldwater, Senator Rand Paul
and others.

“The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.”

– Thomas Jefferson

treason ,desertion

Adam what the Fuck is your problem? the convention is still weeks away and you have already abaondoned Paul , . I had considerd marching with you in Tampa but WHY degrade myself and Dr Paul ????the delegates are still fighting , the lawyers are still fighting , the campaign has begun to fight again.the people are still fighting and Ron paul beleives he has won several states and has asked you to stay in the fight and support him . he not only is seeking a speaking role but also a debate with Romney and you turn into a gutless maggot and abandoned your brothers in arms during the heat of battle even before hearing what Paul has to say about it , screw you , I can march for Paul on my own and dont need to be involed with a turncoat like you . if you think all is lost then shut the fuck up and put on your johnson shirt and move along , if Washington had your mentality we would all still be under the crown ! may I remind you of the USCMJ , they shoot people for crap you are pulling >85 - Desertion ,100 - Subordinate compelling surrender. all your bullshit can wait till you hear from the commander in chief !

I've lost all respect for Adam

Ron Paul threw his support behind Adam when he was running for office and this is how he pays Ron back? He disparages Rons son and then jumps ship before the convention even takes place. Even if you think we have zero percent chance of winning, it's a matter of Respect.

Shame on you Adam. And shame on all you Gary Johnson supporters who are jumping the gun and trying to rally supporters before the convention without letting this thing play out. What's the rush? All you are doing is alienating the majority of Ron Paul supporters.

And by the way he needs to ditch the "wife beater" shirt

Regardless of how you may feel about AK, the veterans

march in Tampa is very important to the cause of Liberty. The more veterans gathered together, the better protection for our people gathered in Tampa.

I humbly ask you to reconsider. It's not about Adam or his views. Check this out and you will understand why I would hope you will reconsider and join the veterans march:

http://www.dailypaul.com/246499/important-message-for-all-de...

Regardless Nonna I will be there .

and adam can deal with me there in person if he likes , if he wants to bug out I will be Glad to step up and take his place . I am just wondering if he will be wearing a paul or johnson shirt .I wont be taking any orders from adam because I am a veteran for RON PAUL
;)

May God bless you, cal66iber.

Check this out: http://youtu.be/FtwbwXw0_Rs

This Veterans March on the RNC is in tribute to Ron Paul. I just wish all the able veterans would join in. The delegates who are not the GOP elite, must see who our brave warriors (to whom they pay lip service) want as the GOP nominee.

Please, veterans reading this comment, check out the link above.

This Adam here...

...is with that Adam there. Writing-in a candidate is even more of a pointless exercise than voting for the Libertarian or third party candidate. At least voting for Johnson is slightly less futile then writing in RR, as there is a miniscule possibility to inject a third party into the equation. My support for Johnson is tepid at best- he'll get my vote but not my money.

too early to decide

i wont decide until after the rnc

Alright, I'll bite.

What is going to happen at the RNC that could possibly influence your decision to write-in Ron Paul or vote for Gary Johnson?

NOTE: Notice that "Vote for Ron Paul on the Republican ticket" is not on this list, so "Paul could get nominated" is not the answer to this question.

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LoL, In your 2 months and 12 days and 16 hours, You

Haven't learned a thing my child. You are totally Screwed, and can't see through the fog. I hope the fog blinds you into stuptifying ignorance. Then you will be nothing but food for the large cities! Oops! It already has.

Neither Romney nor Johnson is going to win. There will be NO 2016 election. It is Dog eat Dog and that is all there is. The ONLY survivors will be those that CARE and HELP others. Those that don't, will DIE. Period. It was seen and It is DONE!

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

Context, please.

Outside of stating the length of my membership on this site, I see very little significance as a reply to what I said, and it seems like you replied to the wrong post.

So, you have another chance here. Try to tell me what you were trying to tell me the first time, but... failed to do so.

Not always a write in option

where i have been there wasn't so Gary Johnson if Paul doesn't get nomination.

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I thought

that Adam was a leader, but after witnessing him QUIT before the Battle is even OVER, is very very disappointing and telling.

Adam, put down the pipe, and get your head back on straight. Most people on the DP love you, but many have lost respect, based on your recent actions.

Step up, it ain't over till it's f***ing over. Forgiveness is within your reach.

V4P.

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

benicict arnold

Adam has proved to be a gutless worm. only the lowest form retreat in the heat of battle , . when in battle with Adam stay in back or get shot in the back !

But he's not the one that

But he's not the one that quit.

Man, I don't know if I want to be here the week after Tampa.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Why is this so difficult for people to grasp?

Adam has the right to vote for whomever he chooses. And though I may disagree with Adam, I would fight to my death to preserve Adam's right to support whomever he chooses to support.

Larry in North Carolina
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!

Oh, I agree(hell I voted you

Oh, I agree(hell I voted you up), it's just I find it odd for someone that is so worried about needless war and who recognizes, more so than most people, that there are those seeking to co-opt voters, to resign to vote for a man that goes against his biggest issues just because he's more likely to win. What in this video DOESN'T resemble "Well we gotta vote for Romney because...". On Foreign Policy, Adam's supposed biggest issue, he's no different than Obamney. His 'policy' looks to set up the same delusions of Clinton and Bush, vowing to 'stop' current wars, but taking advantage to start new ones at the drop of a hat.

Come on people get with it

Talking about voting for Johnson is just a diversion for us to trick Romney and his followers into thinking Paul is out of it. :)

I'd just like to add that the

I'd just like to add that the freedom movement is in SERIOUS danger of coming home in November with LESS than we had coming in.

Ron Paul has said he will retire and has implied this is his last run. Yes, Rand could run, but he has a LOT of healing to do over 4 years and who's really at the helm in the meantime?

So if Gary doesn't get some matching funds for the Libertarians OR doesn't get into the debates OR doesn't cost Mittens the election, what do we have at the end?

As I put it elsewhere, we've lost our Hail Mary pass and then rather than gain yardage on the next attempt we've been thrown for 20.

We will literally come out worse than we went in. So whatever you decide to do, make sure it counts for something material. Because doing something that feels go0d doesn't necessarily translate to anything in the outside world.

Some day, we may have the choice between "Libertarian, Libertarian Lite and Hardcore Libertarian", and we can all vote our conscience knowing we have little to lose. We're not there.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Yeah,

me too. I'm voting for Gary Johnson, as long as paul doesn't get the nomination.

Excellent Analysis of the Options

Kokesh laid out the options, should the GOP delegates fail to come to their senses and nominate Ron Paul. The pros and cons of writing in Ron Paul vs. voting Gary Johnson were absolutely correct and fair.

I'm pretty sure many commenters did not watch the video.

I HATE politics as sport. I don't like the way "pundits" sit around talking about what the candidates need to do or say in order to win one for their teams: too many political parties serve only the team owners and not the members or fans.

The fans can take over the whole sport, again, by refusing to buy a ticket to the games of any team that is disrespecting them.

Politicians live and die by trends. If a Libertarian candidate began climbing in the polls, they would immediately imitate him, and then it would be up to us to point out the flaws in their track records.

We need a free market.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Adam violates his principles

Adam has violated libertarian principle...stone him!

Is Adam a modal libertarian?

I don't think so, he's too

I don't think so, he's too logical.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Wait until after Tampa to hash this out. . .

After Tampa this is a completely legitimate discussion... and I would not be surprised if Ron Paul himself had something to say about it... but Tampa is about Ron Paul and we should defer this conversation another month.

Whatever is going to happen in Tampa will do a lot to make a clearer picture of what the best options are between then and November. Tampa is what we've all been working toward so let's not devolve into bickering about how our votes are best spent until the convention is over.

The only thing I would suggest for now is that Romney is NOT the way if you believe in Liberty. If you're faltering on that question then find the strength to put it off until after Tampa when the discussion will really get active here.

“Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” —Thomas Jefferson

Advice:

Spend less time worrying about who to vote for to make you more free and spend more time figuring out how to make yourself more free. Why argue about the best way to lose?

Anybody but Romney !

You Hacks should lay off Adam. Sure he's a little over the top sometimes but he has done more for this movement and his country than most of you will ever do...You want to talk about losing credibility?
How about all the sellouts in here saying they will vote for Romney if Paul isn't the nominee ? Now THAT ladies and gentlemen is called losing credibility!..

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

This guy lost his credibility

when he posted video of himself frying his brain smoking drugs. It showed that his thought process is suspect just by posting the video.