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Is it true Gary Johnson will step aside so we can elect Dr. Paul on the Libertarian ticket?

That would be AMAZING!!

See post by "Charlie's Angels" this morning, Friday, 7/27/12:

http://www.dailypaul.com/245950/paul-not-speaking-at-convention

Does anyone know in how many states the LP has ballot access?

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P.S. Even if this is NOT true, we should mount an effort to get Gary to step aside as rumored.

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There have been 483 bagillion threads on this. And you give us

ANOTHER one? And a lame, not adding anything on the topic one at that?

It isn't going to happen.

It is a logistical and legal nightmare.

It is too late for Paul to go another route.

He had to have taken that step, no later than early May.

Ron Paul Said He Will Not Run Third Party...Period!

He was asked multiple times about this and the answer was always the same. No! Why? Because he doesn't want to...period!

First of all you can no longer get into the presidential debates. In 1992 the league of Women Voters ran the debates..It was taken away from them after the reform party almost beat Bush 41 and Billy Jeff.. Getting ballot access in all fifty states is nearly impossible due to bias laws..

Please remove this rediculous thread..You should know better than to post this after all that was said about this months ago..isn't it clear to you and others that No means no?

I'm sick of hearing

VIRGIL GOODE here!!
Isn't this the daily PAUL!!!
Obviously Virgil Goode is the establishments latest tool in their quest to dilute the PAUL vote!!!
Virgil Goode is nothing but a NWO patriot act supporter.

DOWN WITH GOODE!!!!!

Sounds pretty stupid doesn't it?

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Ron Paul could also run on The Constitution Party ticket

the CP clams to be the fastest growing party in the US today.
http://www.constitutionparty.com/

Virgil Goode is currently CP nominee for President, never hear a word on MSM about Goode.

Actually, the Constitution

Actually, the Constitution Party is a better fit for Ron Paul as they are a socially conservative party and not TRULY pro-constituiton.

Ron Paul aligns with them almost 100%, but only with the Libertarians about 75%.

That makes more sense to me, to have Virgil step aside. He could just run Indendent.

Ron Paul is his own party.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

I agree. And I'd vote for

I agree. And I'd vote for Gary if that happened. Not interested in living in a Christian theocracy.

Ron Paul is a christian

but he doesn't believe in forcing his beliefs on others.
Remember, it is the religious neo-cons that least support Paul, mainly because he doesn't think sinful behavior should be illegal.

Paul doesn't fit the CP quite as snug as you think.

Ron endorsed Chuck Baldwin

Ron endorsed Chuck Baldwin before. That was a real credibility hit.

Why?

Baldwin was FAR AND AWAY the best candidate running that year. If he had been on our ballot in Maine he definitely would have had my vote.

BTW...it isn't about forming a "theocracy." It's about understanding and APPRECIATING that our nation was formed on Christian principles and GETTING BACK TO THEM.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

No it isn't, Steve. It's

No it isn't, Steve. It's about getting back to the Constitution and a clear separation between church and state lest we sink into anti-intellectual morass that has dragged other people into a compromised political system. IMO, we already have a compromised system, but thankfully we are still shy of a full-on theocracy. At times it seems like "just barely".

Me neither. I suppose the

Me neither. I suppose the only difference between Ron and the CP is that Ron probably wouldn't actively support enforcing CP platform, even though he agrees with it. I would hope.

I go with my wife to church almost every Sunday because she is religious, very much so, but she asked me the other day "would it kill you to kneel during the [kneeling part]" and I said "yes, yes it would". I'll stand, I'll sit, I'll stare blankly into space while I'm working on product designs in my head, but I'm not prostrating myself to a religion.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Okay, what I have

Heard about Virgil Goode is that he did vote against the bailouts, yet voted yes on the Unpatriotic act, on education issues, which I view as good, he voted no on requiring states to test children, yet voted yes on the Iraq war. Not a very impressive record.

The Libertarian Party and Gary Johnson....

...are nothing more than the vehicle here.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

But Ron Paul doesn't need a

But Ron Paul doesn't need a party.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

For all practical purposes, except in maybe one or two states,

there is no LP to speak of that would be available on the level one is needed in terms of organization or ability to give financial support.

Compared to the Democrats and Republicans, the LP in most cases, effectively does not exist.

Besides, it isn't about Ron needing a party, but rather needing ballot access. The LP will have it most likely. An independent bid has ALREADY missed deadlines in some states.

Yeah, I don't know anything

Yeah, I don't know anything about ballot cutoff dates, so I have no idea what the rules are and when.

But I just don't see Ron Paul going to Gary Johnson, considering he essentially threw him out of his office last year and hasn't spoken to him since.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

No

What is true is that the CFR moved their puppet GJ from trying to dilute Ron Paul's vote in the primary to block that very possibilty. A move which seems to have earned his CFR handler Doug Turner a promotion in the organization.

Citation please.

I'd like to see where there is proof that GJ is CFR.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Simply google

Doug Turner CFR That would be the man who has run Gary's entire political career

Except not for the last 10

Except not for the last 10 years.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Isn't "Your Boy" Gilbert Effecting This?

Let's see...Last week if you remember Doctor Gilbert:
Was conferring with Rick Santorum to sway Rick's Delegates to RP @ Tampa.
BRILLIANT!

He was setting in play a strategy to float carbon-fiber spheres in orbit to protect the planet from collision with another celestial object, BRILLIANT!

This week he was conferring with Gary Johnson, and all was going according to plan. BRILLIANT!

He also has a hit song on youtube..he's been invited to perform it at PaulFest. OMG! How does he do all this?

His Lawsuit could free up the Electoral College to be UNBOUND and vote for Ron Paul Anyway!!!! Gary Johnson...Step aside!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Why should Gary step aside?

Ron's campaign and candidacy is over He let people in his campaign sell out supporters. Some in his campaign have made a huge amount of money and now will move on to promote Rand. My vote is going to Gary Johnson. Someone who is still running!

Formerly rprevolutionist

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For the exact reason that his campain

has to fall back on lies to try to win votes, as you just demonstrated.

RP has kept to the High Road for 30+ years; try it some time.

Ron Paul may have taken the

Ron Paul may have taken the high road but people in his campaign did not. Gary Johnson is actually offering a choice in November.
And what lies are you going to document?

Formerly rprevolutionist

His ENTIRE Platform

It's contrary to Libertarian/Conservative/Ron Paul Republican Tenets:

Guantanamo Bay
Using US Armies around the world
Keeping Bases in the Middle East

Shall I continue?...and you might change your screen-name to:
"GJRevolutionist"...since you've already abandoned RP.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Dude

Nobody is abandoning anyone, and you know, Rand, a lot of people are mad at him still, it's silly, so the dude endorsed romney and voted for sanctions on iran, Thomas jefferson involved the US in a disastrous Embargo's, which did nothing and he said it was the worst mistake of his presidency, BUT he is still a great man because of his principle. All you silly people that think you know everything because you search ron pauls name 50 times on google a day need to start fighting for more than ron paul, start fighting for liberty in different ways, which means supporting GJ, even if he is a loser, which he could turn out to be, at least your not sitting on your hands, and to other people who learn about what we are doing, they se our support for the freedom candidate as inspiring, and i would love to see proof gary johnson is CFR, you guys are ridiculous sometimes.

You just got PAULED!

So We Are Left With

Voting for the "Lesser of Two Evils" again....

Romney gets elected...bases worldwide.
Johnson gets elected(cough, cough)...bases worldwide.
The "Inside-out,bottom-up Revolution" is the RON PAUL PLAN.

Who is the "Dude" here...really.

Wake up and smell the coffee pal.

And you might consider changing your screen-name to:

"ClydeVotes4Gary..or whoever"

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Oh is that his plan?

Because I am pretty sure RP is hinting at voting for GJ, you are just being too emotional to make a logical decision about this. I hope now you have changed you mind, because it seems from this email you are writing in Ron Paul and let me tell ya, I worked those elections for the republicans, I counted up the votes, and write in were not counted, not by my choice, but by force from the county, a write in is utterly meaningless, I hate to say, unless the votes are close IE 35 34 31 or something. Voting for the most principled candidate is not chosing lesser of two evils, I don't agree with RP 100% either, but he was the best out there.

You just got PAULED!

You raise a great point....

Unless Ron Paul is nominated in Tampa, the Ron Paul era is OVER the next day, unless he takes this route and runs as the LP candidate.

We must all be prepared IMMEDIATELY to move forward with new leadership. (Hint: and it won't be Rand!)

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

LOL He's not going to evaporate

It's the beginning of an era where a person cannot get elected without a Ron Paul endorsement.