Breaking News on MSNBC, Homeland Security unveils plan for "more secure driver's license"!
Submitted by E. Oregon 4 Ron on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 12:07
He stated that MOST of us "overwhelmingly" support this?!! And then read off those who wouldn't support it, such as: TERRORISTS, ILLEGAL ALIENS, etc!! I am adamantly against a NATIONAL ID CARD, and I am NOT a Terrorist!
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Found the article on Real ID
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22598440/
hmm
woww.
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Contact your state representatives, as well
The Oregon governor was supporting the new driver's license and I think he had to back down, but I had better check this out!
Welcome to the new Amerika
I think this "conspiracy" has come to fruition.
There's light at the bottom of the rabbit hole. Ron Paul is warning us. We better realize it's time to resist the Real ID act and the NAU!
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The American Revolution 2.0 will not be televised... It will be downloaded!!!
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I will
into an international drivers license.
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
http://www.channelingreality.com/NAU/REAL_ID.htm
The federal REAL ID Act (P.L.10913) was a sneaky way to set up a Big Brother NATIONAL ID system.
Thus far in 2007, 24 states have introduced legislation to refuse compliance with REAL ID (the federalization of driver's licenses, and other types of ID cards, as well as the linking of all state motor vehicle databases). To date, legislation rejecting REAL ID has been enacted in Maine, Idaho, and Utah; legislation is "pending" in the other states.
You can look up state info in the NCSL REAL ID State Legislation Database:
< http://www.ncsl.org/standcomm/sctran/RealIDdb.cfm >
Also see attached pdf of all state legislation regarding IDs (as of 3/14/07).
REAL ID incorporates the technologies that will allow government to track and monitor holders of REAL ID compliant identification cards. In addition to the problems of privacy invasion and increased identity theft risks, federal control over ID standards -- which tramples state rights -- eases the path to creating a North American ID card and database for citizens of the developing North American Union.
At the U.S. Congressional level, Senate bill (S.717) and House bill (HR 1117) have been introduced to repeal REAL ID (pdfs attached), however:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that the congressional proposals are a case where the cure is worse than the disease. Instead of just repealing the REAL ID Act, it is also proposed to insert (national) ID standards setting from another similar law! The proposed bills also increase federal funding -- which will expedite state implementation of a national ID system.
The REAL ID ACT isn't the only problem: the "Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (section 7212)" falls in the same category.
Download the "Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 " (PL 108458‹ 12/17/04) -- see section 7212 :
http://www.nctc.gov/docs/pl108_458.pdf
Two puzzling questions:
Why are there TWO Congressionally approved bills about "driver's license and personal identification card" standards?
Why would language from one law (section 7212 of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004) be proposed to replace the language in the other law (REAL ID)?
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Check the status of your state
On the links provided in IAforRonPaul's post. Put pressure on your state Representative to reject this.
I think I may not renew my driver's license
I have been driving for over 50 years :-), have never gotten a ticket, so maybe my first ticket should be "driving without a valid driver's license" ?
thats the spirit!
Right on! I will ride a bike if I have to.
Is the real ID a diversion for something worse?
a diversion for the real deal?
http://www.channelingreality.com/NAU/REAL_ID.htm
Someone I know sent this link to me and has me wondering. It seems like whatever is proposed is the opposite (like the Patriot Act). COULD the real ID be just a way to get people to rally against it and then offer a false solution that is the real thing??? Before you write me off as crazy, read the article posted carefully. Have we been had either way? The previous debate before Paul was excluded, you had every Republican saying we need a National I.D. They were followed by Democrats who want Mandatory "healthcare". In Australia, everyone got their National I.D. via healthcare services card. It's like a salesman who asks you not whether or not you WANT the car, but if you want the green one or blue one. In the end, you buy the same model.
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Thanks for that link
Here is the link to Dr. Paul's speech opposing the Real ID act.
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2005/cr020905.htm
Is it any wonder that Ron Paul is concerned enough to run for president?
its
scary.
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OH NO!!! THEY HAVE THAT
OH NO!!! THEY HAVE THAT PICTURE OF ATTA!!!
I can't believe they are trying to shove this down our throats and they are using "terrorists" to do it! We need to wake the crap up.
They are using our fears against us to push the REAL ID...our founders are having heart attacks....and dying again.
YET AGAIN, Paul was NOT the kook he was called....they are doing it to us again.
Michigan getting test run
this spring along with VT I think
Find your congressman here ...
http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm
Email your congressman ...
It will take you the same amount of time as placing one of these posts. You have to let your elected officials know where you stand on this and other issues.
I would also suggest starting the dialog with a question asking what side of the fence you congressman is on when it pertains to specific issues. Once you are knowledgeable of where your direct representation in the government stands you can let others in your district aware of how they are being represented.
"Overwhelmly" support this????
That is a lie. Several states have REJECTED this, most of us DO NOT want this. Even those that don't support Dr. Paul know this is bad news.
www.votejasonthompson.us
www.votejasonthompson.us
PAPERS PLEASE! umm no
This total control mechanism needs to dissapear good info here http://norealid.com/
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Here's the link
to the story I posted earlier today, about Chertoff. Giant leap for mankind... into the belly of the beast. Please ignore this, it is not happening! Yeah!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/24605
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ABC Link you provided in your post
is here: http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4117489&page=1
Thanks E
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One step closer to micro chip....
"they decided not to put micro chips into the cards" - Micro chips will be the next step after everyone has a card and it is more accepted by the average citizen.
Nomis
NC Drivers License
The AAMVA is the association behind this. Many States belong to this organization including North Carolina.
North Carolina is the 1st State to place hologram on "back" of drivers license. This hologram includes the picture of North America on it. Feel free to google "NC Hologram"
I've emailed all NC Legislators and received no reply. Here is the email address for ALL NC Legislators. internete-mail@ncleg.net
Check out AAMVA's website especially their vision statement.
video
anyone?
REAL ID
Yep Real ID is not just for illegal immigrants.
Don't let them chip you or your children.
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This is the REAL ID act, people!
Call your contressman and object!
On C-Span now
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