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DHS is buying extra riot gear to get ready for us in Tampa

The DHS has hired extra men and is buying more riot gear to be used in Tampa at the convention. I think they will declare the area close to the convention off limits by way of the no tresspass act and all hell will break loose if any of Ron Paul supporters get anywhere near the convention. Until a few months ago I actually believed we had free speech and the right to assemble in this country. I makes me sad to find out the truth. I think the only way to overcome the security forces is with sheer numbers. If 100,000 show up the govt. will have to listen, much like what happened in Egypt.

http://rt.com/usa/news/dhs-unrest-gear-283/



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homeland "security"

I told you so. To quote Paine " a people who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither"

Riot gear is useless.

Look at how a simple rock is able to defeat those with riot gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc000YDVY5o&list=FLP0w6gVVrZz...

A strong kids water gun or sprayer filled with black paint will blind someone wearing a riot helmet with face shield. And when the person takes off the face shield so they can see, another sprayer with ammonia and or hot pepper juice can be used to combat the unlawful person in riot gear. All these items are inexpensive and easily available to anyone. And all make wonderful defensive weapons when one is being confronted by unlawful criminals in riot gear who are out to hurt the innocent civilian.

Just another waste of our taxpayer dollars by the DHS if you want my opinion.

Your video was not from the

Your video was not from the usa. Our police carry guns and are not afraid to use them. Pulling out a squirt gun or anything resembling a gun and pointing it at police is a good way to commit suicide in this country.

Linda Cross's picture

How many here work for the DHS?

Wouldn't you feel a lot better if there were more liberty lovers in the ranks of the police and security forces? The profession seems to attract those who want to have power and authority over others, not those who want to serve and protect.

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

Dep of Hmland Suppression

If the duly elected Paul delegation is not to be seated at the convention, and a speaking spot guaranteed, then I like the Plan B idea I saw here today and thought of my self months ago, that Gary Johnson should invite Ron to the top of the LP ticket, Gary as VP, and Judge Gray as Chief of Staff. So there is no reason to go to Tampa other than demonstrate. We could serve up pork stew at the rally, for example.
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Appearances are important, don't look like a threat

Wear a dark suit, white shirt with tie and they will let you walk right through. With these potential confrontations appearances are everything. If you look like a person in authority, no problem, the riot police are trained to respect the "suit". LOL

My Proposal. Let's use our heads.

http://www.dailypaul.com/246662/you-cannot-can-an-idea-whose...

Consider this as an alternative to where we may not even need to worry about what latest gear they have...

Imagine, the entire global RP community in unison praying and meditating for the movement as it approaches Tampa?

This is a real possibility.

"I guess it comes down to a simple choice. Get busy living or get busy dying." - Andy Dufresne, 'Shawshank Redemption"

Dr. Ron Paul for 2012! Restore America Now. Not 2016.

So be it.

This is wise

"The eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous, and His ears are open unto their cry"

There WILL be a great many of us who have been and will continue to pray for peace and victory through the power of Almighty God.

"Pray ye one for another"

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Peaceful Protesters Have A Tremendous Ability To Control Their

Temper with these riot police. I believe this is why many decide not to participate in "peaceful" protests for fear they will lose their temper and become aggressive. If enough protesters become aggressive, the riot police may possibly retreat since they are most always in the minority although they usually have armor and weapons etc... I anticipate there will be many different types of protesters at this event. Everyone trying to be of course on their best behavior, but that could change if the riot police start becoming aggressive without good reason.

The problem is, when the people are fed up with the bullsh*t, the riot police may tend to be much more careful and non aggressive if it seems the people are extremely angry and aren't backing down. This country has a very ugly history when it comes to government trying to enforce unpopular tyrannical types of rules upon the population.

They are approaching the breaking point I believe where this RNC conference could very well be the last straw since many believe most of the Romney delegates who are scheduled to attend really have no right to be there since they have been put in place due to the rigged election so far. The fact is, if this was a fair election, the majority of delegates scheduled to attend would be Ron Paul supporters.

Also, I'm not so sure how these "free speech" zones will end up working out. Maybe those trying to enforce this idea might want to watch out instead. This whole "free speech" zone thing has been very unpopular from the beginning, and I fear there may end up having a problem enforcing these "zones".

I would think, under these circumstances, the Romney delegates may not show up in anticipation of the riots due to this fact... The idea that the people have had their voting rights eliminated due to rigging can turn into a very volatile and possibly violent situation at this event. I wonder how many patriots may be willing to fight and possibly die as a result, rather than submit to this fascist type of regime that has unlawfully taken over our elections, evidently?

-LibertyG ... 2 Corinthians 2:16-17 "To some we are a scent of death leading to death, but to others, a scent of life leading to life. And who is competent for this? For we are not like the many who make a trade(for profit) but as those with sincerity...

They just like clearing streets and using their "tactics"

They will definitely be arresting tons of people, fencing people into restricted zones, randomly sweeping parks and beating innocent girls, teargassing grandmas, and kicking babies in the head. Make no mistake, they ARE the violence at all of these events.
Oh yeah, they'll also do this weird thing where they all take a step in unison and then tap their clubs on their shields and then take another step, over and over again. They think it's intimidating, but they have the mentality of 12 year-olds.
It's the same at the DNC if it's any consolation.

maybe this is a dumb question

but at these events, why dont we all bring protective gear, such as body suits, arm leg head guards, we dont even need weapons. If we know they will try and pull a 1968 on us, at least we can minimize the wounds we recieve.

Whats the line...Expect the best, but prepare for the worst?

It's an unfiar set-up. They have batons and gas masks and

guns. What have you got?

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

i didnt say fight back, i

i didnt say fight back, i just said come prepared

They will actually arrest you, tackle-style, within seconds

of putting on a gas mask or riot gear.
And we all know all they need is an excuse and you could wind up dead.
They hate when somebody comes even the slightest bit prepared.

Im thinking of bringing a gas mask

It's one thing if cops try to hurt us, but I am not about to get pepper sprayed or tear gassed.

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Ihave suggested the delegates wear helmets but one of the

delegates informs us that is not APPROPRIATE...

I could give a rat's ass about appropriate. I want a real revolution with live action.
I want real cannons and freedom just like in 1776.

They are probably reading this to find out where I am typing it from. Good luck finding me.

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

I think it is time to pull back and cool off.

You must be kidding. You say you want a "real" revolution with real cannons! The authorities would like nothing more than that. They would kill all of you and have all of the news outlets report that the crazy Ron Paul people became violent and started a war. They would then have cause to round up every RP supporter and contributor, everyone even remotely involved in the Liberty movement and label all of us as official enemies of the state that need to be shot on sight.

You can certainly do as you wish, but my advice is to emulate the tactics of Mahatma Gandhi. A whole lot fewer body bags will be used that way.

If you or anyone else goes out looking for trouble you will surely find it!

Larry in North Carolina
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!

Well said. What these "I

Well said. What these "I wanna real revolution" people fail to consider is the overwhelming firepower of the state. There is no chance of victory through force. The only path to victory is in changing opinion and doing so in a positive and constructive manner.

"As the circle of light increases, so does the circumference of darkness around it." - Albert Einstein
"Now, more than ever, the choice between Obama and Romney will be which one do you want to ruin your country?" ~ Wead

See here's the thing----it doesn't matter what we do.

We are screwed either way. Don't you get it?

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

Kind of like a choice between death

by submission or death by suicidal actions?

I get how you're feeling. Just try to remember that the mind can do amazing things, if you let it. There IS power in positive thinking. I'm not talking about happy horse$%*^ thinking. Just trusting in a higher power of goodness.

Have you even known anybody who is really a nice, caring, person but, who is so negative that it seems like there's a black cloud hanging over your head even after that person leaves? I have and I'm not superstitious. Negativity spreads negativity, just as calmness spreads calm. A higher power is always at work. It's up to each individual to choose which one he or she will project out into the world.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

If everyone wore a motorcycle

If everyone wore a motorcycle helmet they would be safer but the the media would claim we came looking for trouble.

unless the helmet qualifiys as a mask

cuz you can be arrested for wearing a mask in public...

Not us Ron Paul supporters

More likely the occupy who has indicated violence at both DNC and RNC. We are going to be on good liberty loving behavior, and I am sure the authorities will take notice. We've been on good behavior for 5 years now, so I doubt the DHS is worried about Ron Paul supporters. The Occupy is another story.

You really believe they think we are peaceful given what the

major media has told them about RON PAUL'S UNRULY FOLLOWERS?

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

Jefferson's picture

Irresponsible headline..

Who's "US?!"

WHERE in the ENTIRE article did it mention RP supporters or delegates?!

It didn't.
Did you know THESE guys were supposedly coming as well?
http://www2.tbo.com/news/republican-national-convention/2012...

Funny, this article didn't mention anything about RP supporters or delegates either.
You can probably bet TPTB will use this "anarchist" group to try and get everyone else in trouble, just like they did in Seattle in 1999, and on MULTIPLE other occasions.

Edit: Sorry I didn't realize it was front paged. My apologies to the owner. The headline or story still doesn't mention anything about RP supporters.
Here's the original headline:
"DHS gears up for civil unrest prior to presidential elections"

No, the article did not say

No, the article did not say that the preparations were just for us. I am concerned about the Ron Paul supporters because I am old enough to remember the 1968 convention in chicago and the Kent State shootings. I have been worried for some time now that the troops for Ron Paul march planned for tampa could be charged into by an army of police with clubs like I remember watching on tv in 1968. That is the reason I used the term us, Because that is who I am concerned about.

i mentioned this to someone else(not on DP)

I think the difference between 1968 and now, is that in 1968 the push was mainly to stop the unjust war. Now we have more people fed up completely with any Unconstitutional act, and i think more people are awake than before.

This is why i really fear another 1968, this time it really could lead to civil war, because many citizens know now that our freedoms are too far gone. One false move from a police officer, just like in 1968, and i fear there wont be an election. Especially if the first move was against the veterans of this country during a peaceful march.

Err..It's Not Going So Well in Egypt

...or Libya...or Syria, etc.

What concerns me is not so much what Ron Paul supporters will do or even the riot gear. It is the riot provoking and infiltrators and confusion surgically implanted in the midst of "people uprising" that bothers me most.

What is to stop the same modus operandi from happening here in the US in the same way and by the same people? At the convention or any peaceful demonstration with great numbers of people exercising their free speech and right to gather and protest. MO has been tested successfully in the Middle East. Divide and place operatives in the midst of confusion and justified anger. Chaos, confusion, slanted reporting.

If something like that happens, how will we know what really happened? How do we prevent it? We know how it would be reported on the mass media and how many would fall for it. Shots of a lot of *liberty lovers* at a three-day *liberty-in* Probably most not looking so conservative given the heat and the atmosphere. Cut to a misrepresented ruckus. Cut back to a metal band and screaming fans.

Not saying do nothing. Not saying this post is not somewhat fear-based and even cynical. (Like I said earlier, the satanic Olympic ceremonies really did scramble my brain ...)

Somebody supply my soma with a hopeful, positive, balanced reply! HELP!

fonta

Not an Easy Task

But here goes:
At least you are aware, and we are commenting on this here, and not in a jail cell somewhere else?

There are more of us than "them" and eventually there will be more of "us"...Their power is in decline..I pray for this.

GOOD THINGS take time...consider fast food versus a gourmet meal.
A perfect example of this is in the video I have suggested for this weekend:
http://www.dailypaul.com/246625/weekend-movie-suggestion
and this will warm your heart for certain:
http://www.dailypaul.com/240265/people-ask-me-what-will-work
I've also sent your regards to our dear-disbarred-DPer.
Your comments are sure to make him smile.
Don't forget to smile...it makes people wonder what you're up to!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Their Power is Declining

...and there are *more* of us. I too pray that it is so.

Unfortunately the utube that would warm my heart has been taken down, but I'm sure I will enjoy the movie.

Years ago I worked for a Dallas mega-rich guy, Gordon McLendon, who was once kicked out of Ms. Rand's apartment. He said she didn't much like debate. In her latter years it may have been a bit..."my way or the highway." Same guy was very good friends with Clint Murchison (sp?) and some others who met around the time Kennedy was killed. One of my gymnastics coaches at the Dallas Athletic Club at that time was a drummer in Jack Ruby's club.

Needless to say, I got a little caught up at an early age in some devious plans and evil intrigue. We all have our stories...hahaha.
Thanks for the link...not links :(

fonta