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Boston Globe: Ron Paul delegates fight GOP on ouster *Update* MA Liberty Caucus Issues Press Release

The saga of the Massachusetts delegates continues. The picture used by the globe is so bad I had to chuckle.

Sixteen Republicans elected to represent Massachusetts at the national convention in Tampa next month have filed a formal challenge with the Republican National Committee, saying they were unfairly disqualified based on state GOP leaders’ concerns about their fealty to presumptive presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

The group of delegates — originally supporters of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul — were elected in April caucuses at which they unexpectedly defeated many of Romney’s chosen delegates, but they have been since disqualified by state party officials.

“In short, the Massachusetts Republican Party changed the rules,” the delegates wrote in a letter to the national committee.

Read more:

http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/07/29/paul-backers-fight-o...

*Update*

MA Liberty Caucus issues press release:

http://www.malibertycaucus.com/rnc-committee-on-contests/




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Does anyone know??

Did the Romney delegates receive and return the affidavit? Or did only known and suspected RP supporters receive it?

only went to the delegates who got contested

and since Romney won the primary by a big margin, his team was the only one that was allowed to contest any delegates. They contested all of the winning delegates that weren't on their slate (i.e., all of the Ron Paul supporters).

Correction

I'm fairly certain the affidavit went to everyone who was elected on April 28 at the CD caucuses. I'm pretty sure it went to the delegates who were elected at-large at the state committee meeting too. I don't know if it was sent to the replacement delegates.

thanks - I stand corrected

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If this were to happen in Iraq the US would slaughter the GOP

Claiming they were terrorist dictators manipulating the elections.

emalvini's picture

Jesse Benton Tells Paul Delegates..."Don't Make Waves"

What does he mean by that? Does he mean to just lay down and allow the coronation of "The Romulan' to go as planned by the GOP? Does Benton mean that the delegates should just go quietly, and politely over to the Romney camp where his future is more certain. Does Benton want the delegates to go through the process without a challenge to Romney?

Where the hell is Benton? Is he in hiding after putting out that horrible email to the Paul delegates?

What is Jesse Benton's fuction? Will the 'Idiot brother-in-law' please respond to all of these attacks on the Paul state delegations..

This quote from the Update in the OP refutes your allegation:

"Bradford Wyatt thanked Jesse Benton, the Ron Paul campaign chairman, and his expert political team, for their instrumental assistance in guiding the decertified Massachusetts Liberty delegates through the intricate challenge process. Mr. Wyatt said “I’m a small business owner, not a political or legal expert, and navigating the process to file a challenge with the RNC is not a simple task. Jesse Benton and his staff really stepped up, and helped the Liberty delegates effectively focus our efforts on properly building the legal challenge to address this unlawful decertification”

This squares with statements made by Doug Wead that Jesse Benton and the official campaign have been unfairly maligned by certain parties at the Daily Paul. It would be good if some apologies were forthcoming for many of the uncalled for calumnies.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

To the contrary, Jesse Benton should resign ..

..and apologize to the many Ron Paul supporters he has alienated over the past several months and for doing in the RP campaign by a thousand cuts.

Filing a challenge with the RNC is far from rocket science, though if there are lawyers involved they certainly will want donors to the RP campaign to believe it were.

If there was any damage done to the campaign

It was by people like yourself who seek only to create division, grumble and complain about things about which they have limited knowledge and over which they have no control. In spreading dissension as you do it weakens the interest of those who are still looking to find a solution to your nation's problems and have not yet decided who to believe.

In slandering the official campaign in the way you have done you have no doubt driven away many potential supporters. This is why many real Ron Paul supporters have identified you as agent provocateurs from other campaigns.

If indeed you intend to vote for Ron Paul then you should be ashamed of your words and actions and apologise publicly to everyone you have slandered.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Your head is in the sand....

Plenty of analysis out there on how the 'campaign' (personified by Benton) did itself in with ongoing help by enablers who would follow it over a cliff out of self interest or ignorance.

A real campaign goes to a convention to fight for every delegate vote. It does not concede before then by their actions, all the while soliciting money and telling people their goal is otherwise. A real campaign does not distance itself from the message of its standard bearer Ron Paul.

So, to the contrary the real 'agent provocateurs' are those more interested in cozying up to the establishment GOP and, by doing so, accepting its policies.

That is what has driven people away and the blame lays squarely on those who promoted the actions. Shame indeed!

I am fully aware that is your narrative.

You have promulgated it all over this website. You have latched onto a conception of what you believe a successful campaign should do and have embellished it with fanciful notions of betrayal.

This may be emotionally satisfying for you but it is self evidently destructive of the efforts of those who are genuine supporters of Dr. Paul and those who might otherwise have been drawn to support him. After all why support a candidate whose "supporters" are telling you that the official campaign is not interested in winning.

What surprises me is that you are not alive to the consequences of your words and actions. They are quintessentially DESTRUCTIVE. Even if there were a sliver of truth in what you and your group have propagated it was distorted beyond any semblance of verity and anyone with some understanding of group behaviour and political action would know immediately to keep their own counsel.

Doug Wead has written at length in defence of himself and the official campaign team with clarity and honesty. Personally I accept his explanations of what has transpired and am satisfied that Dr. Paul is well served by his team. He himself has always spoken highly of them so any attack on them is by implication an attack of Dr. Paul, notwithstanding declarations to the contrary by his critics.

I have no doubt you are convinced of the righteousness of your position but you are seriously deluded in my view if you believe that what you have said and done has to any degree contributed to the success of Dr. Paul's campaign. It is time for you to reconsider your position and formulate an apology to those you have maligned.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Reality check

"After all why support a candidate whose "supporters" are telling you that the official campaign is not interested in winning."

To be clear, the 'campaign' line, not those of critics, for 3-4 months has been that winning is out of the question and we should settle for a role in the 'Platform' and a 15 minute speech.

"What surprises me is that you are not alive to the consequences of your words and actions. They are quintessentially DESTRUCTIVE. Even if there were a sliver of truth in what you and your group have propagated it was distorted beyond any semblance of verity and anyone with some understanding of group behaviour and political action would know immediately to keep their own counsel."

The 'group' you refer to are all Ron Paul supporters who have been in the trenches because of a firm belief in his domestic and foreign policy ideas, ideas which are being undermined by the campaign. Nothing distorted about calling a spade a spade. As regards to keeping one's own counsel that is wise only up to point.

"Doug Wead has written at length in defence of himself and the official campaign team with clarity and honesty. Personally I accept his explanations of what has transpired and am satisfied that Dr. Paul is well served by his team. He himself has always spoken highly of them so any attack on them is by implication an attack of Dr. Paul, notwithstanding declarations to the contrary by his critics."

Honest men can disagree. Regarding the implied attack on Ron Paul it is true that the buck stops with him. Mismanagement of his campaign by his staff and an inability to see their failings however does not diminish the strength of his ideas.

"I have no doubt you are convinced of the righteousness of your position but you are seriously deluded in my view if you believe that what you have said and done has to any degree contributed to the success of Dr. Paul's campaign. It is time for you to reconsider your position and formulate an apology to those you have maligned."

For the majority of Ron Paul supporters, campaign rhetoric notwithstanding, the success of Ron Paul's campaign was to be measured in securing his nomination or, barring that, vigorously contesting the nomination up to Tampa with a battle of ideas on both domestic and foreign policy.

And, again, the apology for the likely debacle of what had held great promise, not only for Americans but for those who are victims to be of an aggressive US foreign policy by Obama and/or Romney, would be most appropriately given by the resignation of those who brought it about.

Winning the nomination is still ahead of us.

In spite of all the vicissitudes we have experienced or indeed because of them victory is ahead. It is my conviction the Ron Paul will be the 45th. President of the Unites States. How this will happen I do not know but that it will happen I believe is certain.

The first cause of this victory is the grace of God and this I trust will be made clear at the end. The proximate causes are all the many efforts of Ron Paul's loyal supporters even those who have criticised him but have continued to fight on.

Many have given up the fight but that was only to be expected given the obstacles that have had to be overcome. Everyone who has continued has done so with the same conviction that victory is certain even in the face of mounting "evidence" to the contrary.

Thanks for the debate.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

What are you talking about?

I'm trying to find that quote. Where did you see that? Is it in anything related to this post?

Steve Dickson's picture

Thank you!

Thank you for doing this! Although we are not releasing our Challenge to the press, we also filed last week regarding our at-large delegate/alternate election at the infamous Oklahoma State GOP Convention. Good luck in your challenge!

By the way, it is ridiculous how much registered mail costs, and how long it takes to process. 3 hours, $590 for 50 letters - crazy.

In 1968 the GOP had a

In 1968 the GOP had a candidate who was certain to lose the nomination to Richard Nixon, but that candidate insisted on holding on to all his delegates and demanded a roll-call vote from the floor of the Convention so that his delegates would be counted.

That candidate's name was George Romney.

So, at some point

they *stopped* supporting him?

"The group of delegates — originally supporters of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul — "

Exactly...

...that is the problem with the MA delegation 'strategy' - they stopped publicly supporting Ron Paul and instead publicly pledge themselves to Romney.

What is their strategy?

And what should they have done instead?

I like the photo.

It looks like he is not going to put up with anymore BS and is ready to fight.

Yeah

He looks ready to throw down. lol