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When They Come For Your Guns . . . You Will Turn Them Over

"When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands," is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat, credible or otherwise, that the US government is going to take their firearms.

And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. "You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands," which I often follow with the question, "And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?"

This is not a question they are comfortable with, if only because the intent of their saber-rattling was to imply they would fight to keep their weapons, and win.

Nice fantasy. It’s not happening.

http://www.dollarvigilante.com/blog/2012/7/30/when-they-come...



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Well....

I think you underestimate the will to survive combined with the panic attack. Let me explain...

One time when my kids where in school and the Police came to talk to the children about child abductions. They mentioned to the kids...if your attacker has duct tape don't submit assuming that if you're quiet and good they will let you go...duct tape is baaaaddddd...run, run fast, scream, yell and fight because if the attacker duct tapes you..you can't fight and they probably don't intend on letting you go.

At the time I was appalled that they would say this to children until I thought about it and it's true.

The same thing applies to someone confiscating our guns. They aren't going to let you go if you're quiet and good. You need to run, scream, yell, and FIGHT...because the alternative is your enslavement and death anyway.

They underestimate anyone backed into that kind of situation....

War is not a joke, it's a brutal and ugly thing.

Mr. Kerger was not here when I had to fight off an attack by the Israel Mossad, who attempted to break down my door, and the MI6/Israeli Mossad could not get through the window either. He underestimates the sheer will to survive!

Many neighbors came out of the woodwork to get the traitors to leave the area immediately. The Sheriff also, without any shots fired, arrested six Israeli intelligence officers who were demanding access to my home when I either was home or wasn't home for it anyway.

Their excuse was I was a terrorist linked to some kind of muslim operation. The case was never heard...those people never returned.

What guns??????????

I don't have any guns...OH those guns? Well, I lost them. No wait someone stole them. You're gonna search my house you say? I suppose there's no use asking for a search warrant. Oh I see. Your gun IS your search warrant. I guess I can't stop you.....................Told you I didn't have any guns. I would have turned them in like a good little sheople. Baaah Baaaaahhhhhhh!

Hey Fred, they're long gone. You can dig up those guns in the flower bed and bring em back in the house.

LOL try coming up my winding mountain road elevation 9,000 ft

in your Humvees. First we blow a hole in the road in front of you so you stop, then behind you so you can't back out. Now you are pinned down and crying for your momma as these boys pick you off one at a time, and these boys are shooters, all of them vets, all of them just a little crazy. Good luck, soldier.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

That's why they won't even go to the rural country....

Do you know how many scuffles there's been already?

Not happening. Plus the tin soldiers will end up joining the rebels and they won't have that. That's why they'll stick to urban warfare.

There is such a thing known as "psy-ops" by the way.

This article just provides further proof and absolute evidence, of that very fact. A psy-op used to induce Alex Jones movie drama.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/feds-gold-being-audited-us-tre...

The writer is assuming that Americans have become so addicted to T.V., they'll just lay down and die for the government and willingly turn in their guns in massive droves.

All I can say is, I would like to hear where this writer lives and if it's close to New York City at all. Because that sure isn't the reality of this country here.

If such a stupid action was taken by the government, there are millions who won't even go to the door. They will act like they aren't home, pull out their guns and begin sniping at all the people lined up to "take" the guns from outside the first tier of their house. They won't be talking.

This will be an action that was forced upon them, so you best believe they will all shoot and ask questions later. If this actually happens in a guarded community, you better believe the entire neighborhood will be involved, shooting off the heads of these foreign invaders who are trying to take said guns.

After this escalates and the victim is wounded, you better believe the gun owner won't lay down. Not even six thousand feet away from these suburbs, is an all out wilderness-laced forest surrounded by high cliffs. That is where the Gun owner will head once the wound is treated, and that is where all his friends will be headed.

And not less than 600 feet away from there, is interlocking mountain ranges buried in the deep woods. Good luck for the government (U.N troops) having a fun time in there. In the pitch-black forest region? Stop smoking those drugs, son.

At that point all their toys are at a very high disadvantage, including drones, because people have trained 20/20 vision in the dark. They will hide, invisible to their eyes in all areas one can imagine. Troops will die left and right by the hundreds. Many times over as the government tries to search those woods, reinforcements will be picked off like cattle on the slaughter range.

Do you think war is a joke or something to celebrate!??!!? I guarantee the government will think twice about such stupid, idiotic actions given the amount of lives that will be lost. They won't have sufficient man-power when the police begin aiding the rebels, especially if all the rebels are outside in the pitch-black forest.

The government isn't about to force guns out of people's hands in such an ignorant, suicidal display. It won't happen. It will happen in large cities, more and more by biological attack, but out in the rest of the wild west you can forget it. That ship has long ago sailed.

They sign their death warrant the minute they attempt to go on an "all out" confiscation warpath, or they'd already have done so! These cowards won't ever do it one time. That is not to say they won't keep the tyranny going and confiscating arms in the cities, stoking civil wars and mayhem, they will do that gladly and you will see just that to add fire to their case.

One of the draw backs to gun confiscation,

at least to the government, is the fact that there is no way in hell they have any type of clue about how many weapons we possess. I recall an incident back in my youth when my wife and I got into a domestic incident where the police were called. I was outside waiting for them when they arrived. I knew the officers who took me to the nearest watering hole and dropped me off. A few weeks later I was having a drink in the same place and sitting next to one of the cops who had taken me there. He told me they were very happy to see me outside when they arrived. I asked him what he meant and he responded "We know what type of weaponry you have in your house". I asked him how he knew that and his answer was through gun purchase records from local shops. You should have seen his face when I responded "Oh, thats all you know about"?

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

Not really impressed with their technology....

after all, it took them 10 years and $1,000,000,000,000.00 to get just one man.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

Put Down the Guns and Do Something Useful

"The tsunami of emails and death threats to Jim Karger and my comments on the likelihood of gun confiscation or a non-revolutionary event continues! To close out the week, let’s look at a few of the comments we’ve received."

http://www.dollarvigilante.com/blog/2012/8/2/put-down-the-gu...

LOL

Karger and Berwick will never 'get' it.

Guess "asymmetrical warfare" too is like sex: if someone has to explain to them how it works, they just don't know how to get off.o)

it's hilarious how they propose people protest by not paying income tax, as IF that won't inevitably bring SWAT raids, murder, NDAA kidnappings, and who knows, drone attacks: like, 'hey all you voluntaryists, why don't you all, er... volunteer to be kidnapped, raped, tortured, and murdered!'

Karger and Berwick are not the type. But that's okay.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Kerger and Berwick are cowards..They won't fight the Pharisees..

They refuse to stand up to the Pharisees and remind me of David's "lost soldiers" during the fall of Jerusalem a century ago.

They all go crazy and point out the bad things they're doing, but won't lift a finger to help defend against the Pharisee enemy inside the gates because to do so would be to admit they were responsible in their ignorance of failing to act on an early threat.

Who Are We Kidding?

This guy's absolutely right. If we were ordered to hand over our guns, we'd do it without hesitation. Why? Because we're scared to death of the state.

Like someone else said, look at what we're putting up with at the airport. TSA goons grope us, our wives and children. We willingly, gladly, and dutifully submit. It's all being equated with patriotic duty.

When the police beat the shit out of people in other countries like Greece, Ukraine and Chile, the people fight back. They actually take a stand. But not here. Here, we just lay down and take it.

If we're willing to put up with all that, then what makes us think we won't turn in our firearms without a fight?

"Home of the brave"? I think not. We're nothing but a bunch of scaredy cats, gutless wimps. We're no different from North Korea; We won't do a damn thing about government tyranny. We're not willing to go out of our comfort zones. I see no sign of rebellion anywhere in this country.

Sure, lots of people talk tough but they don't make good on their threats. Their bark is worse than their bite. Besides even if they tried to put up a fight, they'd be taken out by drones, armored vehicles, tanks and turned to dust in a heartbeat. They would not be considered heroes, they'd be considered crazy murderous thugs and terrorists and the people would just cheer on the government's murder of them. That's what happened in Waco.

This man is 100% correct. We need to stop kidding ourselves and face reality. Americans are just too stupid and clueless to see what's going on and the whole world knows it. They can see it but us.

Why They Will Take Your Guns From Your Cold Dead Hands

"TDV correspondent, Jim Karger's article, "When They Come For Your Guns . . . You Will Turn Them Over" went viral this week. Within minutes of its release it had tens of thousands of views, was picked up by dozens of other websites, had fueled an epic discussion in the comments section, resulted in numerous unsubscribes and Karger received two death threats.

Perhaps he touched a nerve?

We've now had time to read through many of the hundreds of emails... mostly telling us that we are cowards... and we will now take an opportunity to respond to some of the criticisms and commentary."

http://www.dollarvigilante.com/blog/2012/8/1/ready-aim-submi...

Afghan Vet Neighbor

My neighbor is an Afghan Vet and still active in the National Guard. We have our neighborhood perimeter already set up should things get ugly for whatever reason.

What, are they going to take his personal guns away too?

LOL

LOL

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution

So, who are trying to flush out

With this post? Some dude that says" COME AND GET Some!"

I have a better motto, they can have my hand grenade without the pin when they pry it from cold dead hand...

.....my point......

Mind your own business about guns.

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

IT WILL HAPPEN !

Now you listen here "NEO". The day they come for my weapon's will be the shots heard around the world ! Besides the fact, in that event all gloves are off.The Tyranny complete,WE the people defunct.The Alamo if you will.I know without a doubt,there are millions of Americans, just like me. Well armed, well trained, damned determined,and Really Good shooters son. Not to mention, have seen this coming for years now.DO YOU THINK for a moment, we are not organized?...

LIVE FREE OR DIE ...GOT BULLETS?

...the yutes ...

made me smile.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Oh cmon now, you could see

Oh cmon now, you could see how the yutes who support Dr Paul really fought for the man. Lined up in the streets with signs. Started some online protests. Who is that guy who signed up to go and occupy Iraq that was beotch slapped by a gingrich body guard and all he could do was sound like the whiny little girl he is and say " you've assaulted me sir" to which the guy told him he could sk his private parts? What a man's man ( LOL )

Americans will do what they are told. They have become the whiniest bunch of mice on the planet. Real tough dropping bombs from a jet plane but when it comes to defending the homeland, well, LOL , there's no balls. No integrity. And everyone knows it. That's why we've been dissed to the incredible lengths we've all been dissed.

But wearing the don't tread on me t-shirt makes them "feel" good.

Thank G-d the founders weren't like that. Hell thank God millions of boomers woke up at one point or else we'd still be killing innocent women, children and old people in Vietnam. Support your troops!

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution

Warped version of reality

Nice Try, Get Real. Outright gun confiscation is a logistical nightmare, thankfully.

Declaring Urban warfare is not an effective means of confiscating weapons. They want to conquer the enemy without firing a shot. This is what they've done all along here in the U.S. & it is what they will continue to do.

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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

The lack of understanding of modern military tactics

the "evils" of civil war (the rape, the torture, the opportunism, the kidnapping for randsom) -- all of which would predominately be civilian-on-civilian -- is mind boggling.

#1 I don't think they'll come for your weapons
---It would be an astronmical cost to go door-to-door
---80 - 200M guns?

#2 Let's pretend they can use registration to get this done
---"oh kids came by today and stole them, here search the house"
---"here's my guns officer" -- *has 4 'un-registered' guns out back"

#3 No amount of civilian guns can win out against civil war -- it wont be the soliders that do the killing. They'll shut off the water, cut of supply chain, de-link satalites, and destroy key points of interstate. After that people will go civilian-on-civilian (as they did in Iraq -- the chief cause of death).
---Two months time and people will be robbing, begging, prostituting, raping, kidnap for randsom, home-invasion, and murdering each other (AS HAPPENED IN IRAQ).

NONE OF THIS WILL HAPPEN (by-the-by)

My only point is that you need your guns for civilian-on-civilian defense -- not against a military this is not the Agrarian age where the farmers have better weapons then the military.

Fantasy Football offers better strategic-logic than an argument that guns will win a modern war.

I bet if they cut the damn cable 60% of the guns would come forward -- alone. Then they put out an offer for "any" gun to be brought in (no registration or proof of ownership) -- then you'll have "self-started" civil-unrest and riots as peole invade homes to get cable back on and to make money off of stolen guns.

Even if we were all united (in belief, in creed, in culture) it would be hard to win a civil war against a modern military. We'd lose 40 to 60% of the populace.

This is not going to happen -- but I'm just saying.

Some of what you say is plausible, but I think your 60%

estimate being turned in for such things as having the cable cut off are just plain silly.

Would 60% of the population give them up for such a reason? Possibly. But 60% doesn't own a gun. The odds that the set of people who would turn them in for such a minor reason and the set of people who presently own a gun overlap are slightly over nil.

I'm allowing for the possibility of some small number to do this, but no where near 60%.

Your assumption on the impact of people losing television is based on the entire population - but we here are only concerned about the GUN OWNING population. They are a far different breed than the general citizen.

Any "turning in" you do see, will be more than likely people who never paid for them (stole them, received them as gifts, inheritance, etc.) and/or who didn't really care if they had them in the first place.

I would say this comprises a slim proportion of the gun owning population.

I can survive really well in the wilds of California

Sierras - Shasta - Lassen - and High Forest Coastal Regions for probably 6 weeks with what I could carry in and acquire.

I know how long I can survive because I've tested myself.

Fewer than 1% of 1% of 1% could survive that long that well.

After that time ones "peace" starts to un-ravel if one does not have "long-run" survival skills + culture.

Farmers can go work a Farm even after being off the farm for 12 years

#1 They have long-run farming skills
#2 They have long-run farming culture

Back-breaking Construction Workers can go work Back-Breaking Construction Work even after being off-the-job for 12 years (assuming reasonable health)

#1 They have the skill
#2 They have the culture

What you're telling me and that everyone is "thumb-upping" you over is that what 5% (or more) of the country has these skills and that the loss of 95% of the people is acceptible?

Because I am positive that most people could not survive in the wilds -- mostly owing to culture.

I'm not saying it will come to this.

People keep ignoring my central argument that CONSUMPTION not GUNS will change the course -- as Ron Paul has said.

Maybe we can start "thumbs upping" Consumer-Sovereignty (Mises) and stop "fantasizing" about a Guns-Sovereignty.

But that's cool we had the 911-Truther and the Birther (I coined that phrase) distractions now we can have he guns-maintains-sovereignty distraction -- old baby-boomers as "outdoor survival" experts -- I mean we are like two or three generations away from the average person being 4 or 5 generations ex-farmers. Let alone hunters and long-run survivalists.

You assume California is a smart place to be...

If things like that happen, get out of L.A., California as quickly as possible. That's one of the few areas where the government is successful in disarming.

It is full of environmental whack jobs and eco-terrorists, who are completely out of their mind. Many of them mean well but get away from them if you know what's good. Head for the mountains.

Don't worry, I'm a cable guy

Don't worry, I'm a cable guy AND a gun owner. I'd never cut off your cable ;-)

More than just guns

When government tyranny gets to the point of trying to blatantly confiscate firearms, I don't think that the only weapons at the freedom fighters' disposal will be the guns they have in their homes (i.e. shotguns, handguns, rifles)?

At that point many National Guardsmen and active duty military may make the decision to side with The People. There are plenty of liberty minded folks in the military that would get a wake up call. If/when they make the decision to side with the people, then some state NG armories and even US gov't armories will begin supplying the revolutionaries.

You may see "rebels" fighting with just with civilian AR-15's/AK-47's and IEDs at first, but it will evolve to them using tanks, artillery, helicopters, machine guns, missiles, grenades, etc. You'll see not only retired, but "active duty" NCOs and even Officers fighting alongside and leading them.

In Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc. the people have acquired use of mortars, rockets, artillery, etc. in addition to the IEDs we hear so much about. And we have far more of those types of weapons scattered all about the US than they did in Iraq or Afghanistan.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it would be just "farmers" vs. the Federal military/law enforcement agencies like some say. I think it would be far more complicated... and bloody... than that.

Our family's journey from the Rocket City to the Redoubt: www.suburbiatosimplicity.com

The weaponry and tactics that the militia and ex-seals,

Green Berets, army rangers, has been spread and taught quite a bit to the population who already can stalk, hunt and target prey in the wilderness, I always say, too many people know too much now, but I think they'll go desperate and attack us, and syria, they have lost the war on secrecy and propaganda

Your assessment seems very plausible. And don't forget that

when people speak of such an event, they erroneously conclude it would happen instantly nationwide.

In all likelihood, this would be a slow process. After all, there just isn't the manpower to accomplish this logistically in any reasonable time frame.

This time-lag will be what allows the fires of revolution to be inflamed.

And not only will you see individuals and activity duty units side with the People, but entire State governments as well. It may start as a People vs. D.C. fight, but it will end as a full-on civil war between independent states. And it won't be limited to mere small arms, or even tanks and mortars. Choppers, planes, ships, satellites and even nukes (as a deterrent) will be in play. Things will get ugly real fast.

well atleast with this post

well atleast with this post we see one of the enemy.