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Rabid Gun Grabbers at It, Again: Sen. Lautenberg introduces Bill to BAN Online Ammo Sales, Registration of Bulk Purchases!

Continuing the statist tradition of making lemonade out of tragedies, this is just 'Phase 2' of their relentless attack, after UN Small Arms Treaty's been put on hold, since July 27th, 2012, to the more recent sneak attack/stealth attachment of an amendment to ban "high capacity magazines" sales, onto the "Cyber Security Bill," no less, to now this:

Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act: Ban Online Ammo Sales and Register All Purchases Over 1000 Rounds

Posted on July 30, 2012 by Robert Farago

For some reason neither Senator Lautenberg nor Senator McCarthy responded to TTAG’s telephone request for a copy of their proposed gun control—I mean ammo control legislation or the senators’ original statement prior to its official unveiling. An eagle-eyed, ever-vigilant reader send us a link. Here’s the skinny:

The Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act works through four components:

· It requires anyone selling ammunition to be a licensed dealer.
· It requires ammunition buyers who are not licensed dealers to present photo identification at the time of purchase, effectively banning the online or mail order purchase of ammo by regular civilians.
· It requires licensed ammunition dealers to maintain records of the sale of ammunition.
· It requires licensed ammunition dealers to report the sale of more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition to an unlicensed person within any five consecutive business days.

Click HERE, for the text of the rabidly Anti-Gun, GunGrabber's PR BS.

UPDATE 1: These murderous lunatics just don't know when to stop!

I'm so glad I left New Jersey; never, EVER want to live there, ever again. My beloved NJ R3VOL, y'all have a work cut out for you; talk about an understatement of the century!

Sen. Lautenberg Refuses to Pull High Cap Mag Ban from Cybersecurity Act

Posted on July 31, 2012 by Robert Farago

“There is not a more, in my view, opportune moment than when there’s still a period of mourning coming from Colorado. Timing, it’s said, is everything. And this is the time.” Time for Senator Frank Lautenberg [above] to stick to his guns, apparently, endangering the Cybersecurity Act of 2012 with a federal ban on “high-capacity” ammunition magazines. Senator Joe Lieberman urged Lautenberg to go on and quit it. Frank doubled-down. “I’m [sorry Dave I'm] not prepared to do that,” Lautenberg told The Huffington Post. “We want to connect safety with reality. And the reality is that we lose more people every year to gun murder than we do in the military … It is ridiculous.” The reality is that Lautenberg’s lack of knowledge about personal safety is unreal.

UPDATE 2: Not missing a beat, Illinois Governor too dives into Nanny Pansy Bloomberg's rabid anti-gun crusade cesspool!

Quinn pushes for assault weapons ban

By Ray Long and Monique Garcia Tribune reporters

12:26 p.m. CDT, July 31, 2012

SPRINGFIELD — Gov. Pat Quinn is renewing a push in Illinois to ban assault weapons in the wake of the killings at a Colorado theater that left 12 dead and dozens more wounded.

The Democratic governor also revealed plans today to propose a ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines in Illinois.

He said in a letter to all state lawmakers that he supports the U.S. Constitution's 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, but the "proliferation of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines undermines public safety and the right of personal security of every citizen."

UPDATE 3: LOL Check out oBUSHma; he knows 'gun control' is a dead issue!

White House gives cool welcome to bill restricting online ammo sales

Olivier Knox
Yahoo! News
July 31, 2012

The White House gave a cool welcome on Monday to Democratic legislation that would effectively ban online or mail-order purchases of ammunition in the aftermath of the mass shooting at an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater.

[...] President Barack Obama has called for a common sense response to the slaughter in Aurora. But the White House has played down his appetite for new legislation as opposed to tightening or toughening existing measures—such as background checks—to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals or the mentally ill. And the president has underlined his support for the Second Amendment to the Constitution.

[...]

The new legislation [...] requires anyone selling ammunition to be a licensed dealer.

It requires ammunition buyers who are not licensed dealers to present photo identification at the time of purchase, effectively banning the online or mail order purchase of ammo by regular civilians.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Frankly instead of tip-toeing, if NRA actually had balls, they'd push for the COMPLETE REPEAL of 1934 National Firearms Act, 1968 Gun Control Act, and the 1986 Fire Arm Owners Protection Act (like the Patriot Act, only if govt bill's names actually reflected its real intent) which banned sales of full auto machineguns manufactured after that 1986, as a counter to the Brady Gungrabbers Inc.

It's like they want to see a 'politicization of a tragedy?' I'd say Double Down, NOW!

They should push for the COMPLETE REPEAL of ATF, and EVERY 'gun control' bills in existence, period!

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UPDATE: Cyber Security Act, along w/Anti-Gun amendment DEAD!

as expected... for now.

but the vote strictly down the isle should concern us all, just like all the slate of 5-4 SCOTUS decisions. as if any of this is surprising...

http://www.zdnet.com/senate-blocks-cybersecurity-act-7000002...

U.S. Senate Kills Cybersecurity Act (with High Cap Mag Ban Amendment)

Posted on August 2, 2012 by Nick Leghorn

News comes to us through Reddit and ZDNet that the Senate has voted against moving forward with the Cybersecurity Act, effectively killing it. For now. The final vote was 52 to 46 in favor of moving forward, but 60 votes were required. Voting was mostly along party lines. As a network security professional I’m always happy to see any half-assed and misguided attempt from the government to try and regulate the internet fail miserably, but the fact that it also knocks out the possibility of that high capacity magazine ban that the Democrats tacked on is like the icing on the cake.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

News Flash. The NRA doesn't care about your rights.

If you believe that the people who control and benefit the most from the NRA existing endorse your right to own weapons of your choosing, you're sadly mistaken. What those people in charge of and who benefit the most by the NRA existing care about is money and influence. Those people will take and endorse whatever positions will get them the most money from their believers that is in compliance with whatever rules the people in government are having enforced at the moment.

I'll bet if you asked the head of the NRA if he thought anyone ought to be able to buy whatever weapon they wanted to and that anyone ought to be able to manufacture whatever weapons they wanted to without having to get permission from the government, the answer, IF he answered, would be a resounding no.

And you're right; ANY law that criminalizes the production or sale of any weapons is counter to the spirit of the 2nd Amendment. For the still confused, the 2nd Amendment was written to ensure that the populace could always be as well armed as the government in case it was necessary to overthrow the government again. Meaning; the government couldn't restrict the sale of any arms to anyone. Don't take my word for it though, learn to read and then apply that skill to the federalist and Anti-Federalist papers as well as the wealth of other writings from the men commonly referred to as the founding fathers.

UPDATE: Col. Steven Williams, aka. SafeArmsReview,

an OathKeeper, and a very highly regarded gunblogger on YouTube, chimes in:

Warning! High Capacity Magazine & online Ammo Ban! Rant!

Published on Jul 31, 2012 by SafeArmsReview

Stand up for you & your loved ones! Do NOT let anyone recommend or make any legislation or law that creates unequality. We are all equal and we must have the same opportunity to protect ourselves.

Banning "high-capacity" magazines
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/jul/30/miller-...

Bill restricting online ammo sales: White House gives cool welcome to bill restricting online ammo sales
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/white-house-gives-cool-we...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

UPDATE: oBUSHma reluctant to take up proposed gun control bills!

...for now, anyway:

UPDATE 3: LOL Check out oBUSHma; he knows 'gun control' is a dead issue!

White House gives cool welcome to bill restricting online ammo sales

Olivier Knox
Yahoo! News
July 31, 2012

The White House gave a cool welcome on Monday to Democratic legislation that would effectively ban online or mail-order purchases of ammunition in the aftermath of the mass shooting at an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater.

[...] President Barack Obama has called for a common sense response to the slaughter in Aurora. But the White House has played down his appetite for new legislation as opposed to tightening or toughening existing measures—such as background checks—to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals or the mentally ill. And the president has underlined his support for the Second Amendment to the Constitution.

[...]

The new legislation [...] requires anyone selling ammunition to be a licensed dealer.

It requires ammunition buyers who are not licensed dealers to present photo identification at the time of purchase, effectively banning the online or mail order purchase of ammo by regular civilians.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

UPDATE: Lautenberg refuses to withdraw the amendment!

UPDATE 1: These murderous lunatics just don't know when to stop!

I'm so glad I left New Jersey; never, EVER want to live there, ever again. My beloved NJ R3VOL, y'all have a work cut out for you; talk about an understatement of the century!

Sen. Lautenberg Refuses to Pull High Cap Mag Ban from Cybersecurity Act

Posted on July 31, 2012 by Robert Farago

“There is not a more, in my view, opportune moment than when there’s still a period of mourning coming from Colorado. Timing, it’s said, is everything. And this is the time.” Time for Senator Frank Lautenberg [above] to stick to his guns, apparently, endangering the Cybersecurity Act of 2012 with a federal ban on “high-capacity” ammunition magazines. Senator Joe Lieberman urged Lautenberg to go on and quit it. Frank doubled-down. “I’m [sorry Dave I'm] not prepared to do that,” Lautenberg told The Huffington Post. “We want to connect safety with reality. And the reality is that we lose more people every year to gun murder than we do in the military … It is ridiculous.” The reality is that Lautenberg’s lack of knowledge about personal safety is unreal.

UPDATE 2: Not missing a beat, Illinois Governor too dives into Nanny Pansy Bloomberg's rabid anti-gun crusade cesspool!

Quinn pushes for assault weapons ban

By Ray Long and Monique Garcia Tribune reporters

12:26 p.m. CDT, July 31, 2012

SPRINGFIELD — Gov. Pat Quinn is renewing a push in Illinois to ban assault weapons in the wake of the killings at a Colorado theater that left 12 dead and dozens more wounded.

The Democratic governor also revealed plans today to propose a ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines in Illinois.

He said in a letter to all state lawmakers that he supports the U.S. Constitution's 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, but the "proliferation of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines undermines public safety and the right of personal security of every citizen."

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Frankly instead of tip-toeing, if NRA actually had balls, they'd push for the COMPLETE REPEAL of 1934 National Firearms Act, 1968 Gun Control Act, and the 1986 Fire Arm Owners Protection Act (like the Patriot Act, only if govt bill's names actually reflected its real intent) which banned sales of full auto machineguns manufactured after that 1986, as a counter to the Brady Gungrabbers Inc.

It's like they want to see a 'politicization of a tragedy?' I'd say Double Down, NOW!

They should push for the COMPLETE REPEAL of ATF, and EVERY 'gun control' bills in existence, period!

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Good Ol' Frank

Let us not forget this was the same genius who got an amendment banning possession of firearms to anyone involved in a misdemeanor DV. That is, until it was discovered that doing so disarmed about 60% of the police in the country. lol Of course they went back and 'fixed' that little oversight in judgment.

This one has the same knee-jerk forethought as the rest of his bright ideas. What a douche nozzle.

What would it entail? Another MASSIVE database that will cost a fortune and never once be used or be effective. Check out how the whole ballistic fingerprinting thing worked out. Convictions using the system since inception: 0. Epic Fail.

How many people handload? A lot.
How many people shoot? A lot.
How many shooting schools, including mine, are in the US? A lot.

Does anyone have a CLUE how much ammunition even one of the smaller schools go through a month? You'd have to log out another rainforest to keep up on the paperwork. What will it take to track all those purchases made each MONTH? Good grief, it'll be worse than the NICS check. And I'm sure the police will be thrilled too- they'll have to get expensive licensure too since they get their ammo from the same damn place everyone else does. Some departments these days can even afford it.

Ultimately it will backfire on them because it will be a logistical nightmare for all involved. It'll cost a ton of OUR money to create, it still won't work, and it'll be back to the drawing board
with them.

Doddering

The Democrats are going to use very trick in their legislative book in Congress to pass any piece of legislation that will further their program of getting our guns. They will continue their program of incrementalizing legislation for total gun confiscation.

What we have to watch out for is the Republicans in the House caving in to the Democrat's pressure to give them a small bone. This will be done for the Republicans to appear to be acting in a bipartisan effort.

The Republicans can't be trusted to hold the line. Boehner caved in twice for the debt ceiling and he will cave in again and give the Democrats something for gun control legislation even if he is watched closely. The debt ceiling battles were as high profile as can be got and he caved in to Democrat's demands for the increases.

Boehner is an Establishment Republican who wants to go down in legislative history as being a nice guy willing to compromise in a bipartisan way for peace in the Congress. Now Scalia is shooting off his turncoat mouth reinforcing Chuckie Schumer's & Frankie Lautenberg's calls for more gun control. Reagan nominated Scalia??? Where's the NRA?

It only takes one to KEEP AMERICANS FREE. Know your duties & rights as a juror. Stop the unconstitutional conviction of innocents in federal custody. The Fully Informed Jury CALL 1-800-TEL-JURY www.fija.org IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. It's that important.

late night

bumpity buh rump bump

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

If it passes the house and senate

I bet $25,000 that the supreme court will find it legal under the interstate commerce clause.

not gonna make a 'Romney' $10k bet,

but you're probably right.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Still does not stop intrastate commerce

or Reload your own. So what the hell can it really accomplish.

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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

None of this S*!t is working for them.....

I wonder if these ass*oles work for the armament industry, hyping gun and ammo sales to new record highs.

They want us all to kill each other anyway, so maybe that's part of the plan ?

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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

enough already

Someone just needs to ask them why they hate Thomas Jefferson so much.