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Justin Raimondo has advice for Ron Paul supporters.

Here is part of his article on Antiwar.com:

There is only one possible tack for Ron Paul’s supporters in the Republican party to take, and that is irreconcilable opposition to Romney, and to the neocon-dominated party leadership. This doesn’t mean dropping out of the party: it means biding their time.

Paul’s supporters should continue their guerrilla war against the GOP leadership — yes, right up to the bitter end — and dispute Romney’s brazen vote fraud and the party’s disenfranchisement of its own grassroots activists. The best place to do this is in Tampa, where a fight over credentials can be turned into a cause celebre. I can see it now: the “Freedom Republican” delegation from Louisiana demands to be seated, objecting to the ideological segregation of libertarian Republicans and the denial of voting rights to American citizens. It’s a story the mainstream media will eat up: how’s that for “mainstream success”?

For the full article go to:

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/07/31/nothing-succee...



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Dear Granger... Justin has

Dear Granger...

Justin has thought provoking insights about your tactic in the GOP.

Worthy of consideration.

Although I respect your efforts, I believe Justin eloquently states why I, and many other RP supporters, cannot follow your path.

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

lce T, when talking about gun control, said;

You can't get justice on stolen land. Maybe it applies equally here in this instance.

I just read this and was going to post it if it wasn't here

This is an essential read for all Paul supporters.

So...read it!

Ron Paul 2012.

this is long and it just reflects

were I am right now. but I can't forsee myself liking romney anymore in Nov. This is what i told my sister Lue when she said with all we know about BO how can you even think of not voting for Romney..
my reply,
Lue. I don’t want to vote him in either (I won't vote for BO or mitt, just the downline) but I know that the republicans will have another land slide in the houses in Nov. They only need 3-4 to take over the Senate and there are 16-20 democratic seats that are up for grabs and in a weakened state – we will get more than needed to take over the senate. The house is already controlled by the Republicans, yet they continue to go along with rules and laws that are not to the best interest of the people – so now we have to start to clean the Rinos (republican in name only) out of the two houses…

If Romney gets in we are looking at a continuation of the policy’s that Obama has been passing although he will toe the mark of their corporate masters more closely, so the bankers will be happy with that. So there will be a honeymoon for Romney and he will pass laws that will get us all upset although probably only the Democrats will notice because of course our guy wouldn’t screw us the minute he gets in –RIGHT???

So if we leave Obama in and put the Republican House and Senate in – they will be so busy trying to do figure out how to screw us without more of the people becoming wise – like they could have done if Romney had become president , that they will leave us the frack alone for awhile — Then you will see the rino Republicans trying to pass the same stuff Obama was passing but it will be harder for them because there will be alot of new congressman that have a mandate to stop that crap. They wouldn’t have had the chance to buy them off yet…

Think about the last time there was a Dem pres and Republican house and senate – Bill Clinton’s presidency, and this time Obama in his second term will realize that he is being thrown under the bus by the banksters and he will began to do some positive things for the people, or not. But at the same time the Republicans will go for impeachment like they did with Clinton and that will keep them busy.

These guys only have a few tricks up their sleeves – i know the powers that were are doing what they can to make Romney seem like the one to vote for but it is all smoke and mirrors – he is just like the rest of them and he won’t do anything different except bring in his Mormon crowd and make them richer.

We know the devil we have in Obama and he won’t last thru the next 4 yrs anyway but he certainly won’t pass anymore legislation or do anymore damage unless the Republican party goes along with it. So we have to be vigilant and get on the backs of our representatives and legislatures when something comes up. In order to turn this thing around we have to be vigilant. That takes work but there will be people here to help you understand what is happening and what and who to support.

Lue...

they(BO and MR)are the same.

Push is for BO to get back in office, MR is the GOP choice to ensure this happens.

The "anyone but Obama" meme is just a psyops tool for the masses.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

I am an election judge

and I won the precinct chair position as well..i get alot of mail from the party. I don't give them any money, not only because everything I had went to Ron Paul and various races but also because i don't approve of where they are spending it.

I have gotten so many letters asking for money-I think they must have sold my name to all the Republicans. I don't open them - I put "return to sender" with an arrow back to them. Now this costs them just as much coming as going, so I take money from them until they learn not to send their crap to me, esp Romney and his family, or Huckabee or some of the other neo-con bozos. Also sent back Senorium, Gingrich and Rubios letters. Romney sent a picture of himself to me, it said it was a picture and dont bend or fold. Well i folded that picture in fours and straightened it out and sent it back, he won't be using that for anyone else.

Don't waste the letter they send you , send it back in tack so they get charged for it..

I already decided that I would do just what this fellow says - gorilla warfare and I am 60yrs old now. don't get mad , get even..

I keep getting slammed with Obama trash

because I'm a union member (unfortunately). It goes in the trash, but I like the idea of returning it, especially since most of it originates from my union. :)

I too have gotten numerous GOP fund requests.

I open each one, carefully place a Ron Paul lapel sticker over Mitt Romney's face or name on the return form, put it in their envelope and mail it to them. While it's best on the return postage paid requests, I do this even if I have to pay the return postage. I figure it will take them some time to process my letter and I want them to know that I am not falling for the same old neocon/rino line. Thus far this year I have sent back between 7 and 10 and I will continue to send them back as long as they keep sending them.

Magna est veritas, et prevalebit. Truth is most powerful, and will ultimately prevail.

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As always, Justin is clear-eyed and

his compass steadily pointed toward Liberty and Peace.

No Quarter

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Its all over.

How do we fight the RNC? Read the article. The man has some useful ideas, ideas I'm not reading on any other Ron Paul sites. The time for Mr. Nice Guy time is OVER. It is time for the state delegations to tell the RNC enough is enough, challenge the delegations, and if necessary walk out of Tampa threatening to split the party. Why not? The RNC is willing to do it.

If Romney gets the nomination without a fight, where do we go from here? One election cycle isn't going to do it so STAY IN THE PARTY and fight the Establishment for every candidate and every new policy or change. Organize Libertarian caucuses within the local party. Above all do not become a part of the system. Do not allow them to co-opt your principles.

I am unopposed as a Precinct Delegate in the upcoming Republican Primary. I received a call from the office of the most likely winner of the two primary candidates for the House of Reps asking if I would put out a yard sign. I said no, that his policies were not acceptable to me. Since then I have rec'd three telephone calls, the last of which was a personal voice mail wanting me to call him and talk about it. Would he have called me if I was just a constituent? I think that PDs have more pull than they realize.

If you are not a Precinct Delegate get on the ballot at the next opportunity and become one. Ron Paul knew the secret was in the Precinct Delegates. In the 1970s I saw one man organize the Precinct Delegates in one Congressional District and take it over as chairman. Why can't we do it to the whole Republican Party?

It only takes one to KEEP AMERICANS FREE. Know your duties & rights as a juror. Stop the unconstitutional conviction of innocents in federal custody. The Fully Informed Jury CALL 1-800-TEL-JURY www.fija.org IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. It's that important.

Here is a question for you:

Have you volunteered to cover your state?

http://www.dailypaul.com/246094/repost-the-most-important-th...

This is what we need to do. It is our last and only hope. If you do not contribute to this effort, then there is nobody else to blame. MSM, the ptb and the rnc will not provide this information so it is up to us, the grassroots, to provide it for them.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

A proper response-

"I received a call from the office of the most likely winner of the two primary candidates for the House of Reps asking if I would put out a yard sign. I said no, that his policies were not acceptable to me."

I won't hold my breath

I won't hold my breath waiting for the media to cover it - given the significant fraction of them that are owned by Bain Capital.

= = = =
"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

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Does anyone know what the

Does anyone know what the current status is of the MA, LA and ME delegates? If they are going to court and if so when?
Thanks

I agree -- Fight to the bitter end -- and beyond.

In the end, a Ron Paul write-in is our final poke in the eye of the rotted-corrupt RNC and GOP.

I predict Romney loses by the amount of Paul write-in votes.

So the GOP can scratch its stupid head and say that truly, Ron Paul would have been the path to victory.

I am writing in Ron Paul because I'll remember in November.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Write ins

ABO isn't my strong suit. I know that Mr. Establishment Mitt has already committed our troops to a war with Iran in negotiations with Netanyahu if he is elected. In the last election I voted straight Libertarian as I have for the last forty years. In this election I will write in Dr. Paul for effect.

I won't have the blood of American troops on my hands by voting for Romney. Four more years of Obama might be worse, but to what degree, 100 MPH as opposed to 90 MPH? It will be another four years for the new Republican Libertarians to do their work, co-opt the RINOs, and force them into the Democratic Party. We might even have the help of the Tea Party along the way. There is a seismic shift coming in American politics, but which way, right, left or libertarian?

It only takes one to KEEP AMERICANS FREE. Know your duties & rights as a juror. Stop the unconstitutional conviction of innocents in federal custody. The Fully Informed Jury CALL 1-800-TEL-JURY www.fija.org IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. It's that important.

The GOP loses if Paul is nominated

The only difference between the GOP and the DNC is how they Rule over the People and the reason they feel entitled to Rule.

A Paul Presidency is the beginning of the end for the D's and R's. Neither party wants him nominated or for the Liberty movement to gain any more traction.

My guess is that the D's & R's will start WWIII in order to retain control. Once they lose power, it won't take long for all the skeletons to come out and they will have EXTREMELY angry mobs demanding trials and the property they stole returned.

The D's and R's have ZERO choice but to try to retain power. They lose everything otherwise.

Raimondo blows this one

For those Ron Paul Republicans who are elected to seats and delegates, they must sign a loyalty oath to the party. In the by-laws, not supporting the GOP nominee is grounds for removal.

What Raimondo is suggesting would have them removed from their seats. Ron Paul asked us to take those seats so we had POWER to vet/nominate/put on the ballot liberty candidates within a major party.

MSM could give a crap about what we do unless they can twist it to their advantage.

Raimondo needs to get out of his cubical and get more involved, he's losing his edge.

And this is MY advice:

http://www.dailypaul.com/246094/repost-the-most-important-th...

Please folks, we need help!

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Sounds worthy.

However, imagining that the media will eat this up is a big bowl of wishful thinking.

Media has nothing to do with this.

Media has nothing to do with this. Delegates do:

http://www.dailypaul.com/246094/repost-the-most-important-th...

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

the MSM won't cover that...

the MSM won't cover that... they'll cover the the festival outside w/ a title like "Libertarians Riot In Tampa, destroy property"

Let me know when you guys realize that you can't win while working within their system. If there's going to be ANY change from the status quo, it's not going to happen from the voting booth...

At their inceptions, the #Liberty, #OccupyWallStreet and #TeaParty movements all had the same basic goal... What happened?

you mean the rigged voting booth?

How can change occur at the voting booth when the voting booth is rigged? I think the change is going to happen in a revolution war.

BUT USERS OF YOUTUBE WILL

And YouTube and Freedom of the TUBE is Bigger than the Media.

Isn't Technology great!

Freedom of the Press via Digital Media.

The System is turning into OUR System by cultivating the ideals of Liberty.

Eventually, as can be seen more and more already, that change will be realized at the polls as well.

Educate.

American Patriot Party.CC

RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

so about the youtube thing...

http://www.dailypaul.com/247290/department-of-homeland-secur...

At their inceptions, the #Liberty, #OccupyWallStreet and #TeaParty movements all had the same basic goal... What happened?

you're right.... and you're

you're right.... and you're wrong.

For now people can post this stuff on youtube, but they're making it increasingly difficult for the truth to stay posted in terms of timely news-oriented information.

A friend of mine has had several videos removed for supposedly violating copyright law... he's fought and won every time, but by the time they let the video go back up, it's too late to accomplish the stated goal as America's 30 second attention-span is 100 celebrity gossip pieces past whatever event was mentioned.

Youtube is owned by google. Google's top execs belong to all the big clubs that shape world policy... the masters are already working on ways to limit the impact citizen journalists can have.

At their inceptions, the #Liberty, #OccupyWallStreet and #TeaParty movements all had the same basic goal... What happened?

.

http://www.dailypaul.com/246094/repost-the-most-important-th...

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul