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The Roman Empire and the Catholic Church are about to Fall: The Roman Conspiracy to Create Jesus Christ Unveiled:

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It's going to be released in Beverly Hills, CA. September 28, 2012

The Second Coming of Christ Has Already Happened.

There is absolutely no denial after you grasp this. It may take you a few hours to finally get the gist of it, but once it hits you, it's a WHAM you'll never forget, and you'll never look at the Scriptures the same again.

The "Holy Trinity" .... "Vespasian - Titus - Domitian" .... All three became Emperors of Rome, and after Titus' death, Domitian constructed the "Arch of Titus":

Arch of Titus in Rome was constructed in 82 AD by the Roman Emperor Domitian shortly after the death of his older brother Titus to commemorate Titus’ victory in the Sack of Jerusalem in 70 AD. The Arch of Titus has provided the general model for many of the triumphal arches erected since the 16th century including the Arc de Triomphe.

The "Second Coming of Christ" was Titus' take down of Jerusalem, and the Son of God was memorialized with this mighty Arch. The second attempt was successful, and that was the Second Coming.

As seen here: http://www.touropia.com/a...

The concept of a divine trinity consisting of a father, son and “Holy Ghost” – the Greek words actually mean “awful spirit” – comes from Josephus. Josephus applies the Jews’ messianic prophecies, not just to Vespasian, but to his dynasty. In other words the real trinity is Vespasian, his son Titus, and his son Domitian – the awful spirit.

Domitian was the "Holy Ghost" - The "Awful Spirit" who wanted to be recognized as a God himself.

In Greek evangelion, a technical term meaning “good news of military victory.” In English, it is translated as “gospel.

The "Gospels" is nothing more than a military victory account of the Romans win of the Jewish. The New Testament was written by the Flavian Dynasty with the help of Josephus Flavius

For anyone who doubts that the Flavian's of the Roman Dynasty and Josephus were the ones that actually wrote the New Testament and created "Jesus", just take a moment out of your day and ask yourself why is the Bible so Antisemitic and so "Pro-Roman"? .... "Turn the other cheek" .... "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's", etc.

Now ask yourself if you've ever even noticed the book of "Romans" and the book of "Titus" in the NT? Now are you ready for the FACE PALM moment?

Why would a Jewish loving "God" dedicate in his written words, a book to "Romans" and another to "Titus"?

Go read Titus, and realize that it is actually Vespasian (God) giving the Son of God (Titus) instructions on how to teach the newly acquired slaves (Jewish after the Romans conquered them in the War) how to be obedient to their new masters (Vespasian and Titus).

The Original Jewish people had their own God, and he was David; a real Titan; a warrior; a man of war that even brought down Goliath and was soon to take the head off of Caesar (Dead Sea Scrolls), and there were many Jews amongst and within the Roman Empire who were gathering in groups discussing how their God "David" was coming soon to take the head off of Caesar. Nero didn't like this and called upon Vespasian who he had earlier exiled to return to the Empire and deal with this disobedient Jews, and he did along with his great warrior son Titus.

Vespasian and his son Titus went to Jerusalem and tried to bring down the city, but failed. That was the first coming of Jesus Christ (Titus). Vespasian was wounded and told his son Titus he MUST reenter Jerusalem and finally take her down and make all those unruly Jews submit to the Roman Empire, and Titus went back to Jerusalem and did just that.

Here's Part 1: and there are 5 parts total:


And that was the "Second Coming of Christ" aka "Titus".

The following account of Vespasian's triumph in Rome is provided to us by the Jewish historian, Josephus who was present at the festivities. His description not only provides insight into this victory celebration but also of the nature of other triumphs staged after a Roman victory. We join his story in the early morning hours of the day of the festivities:


The Jews who submitted to their Master (God) and came to him through his Son (Titus) were allowed to enter the "Kingdom of God" aka "Heaven". Those that disobeyed were killed or not allowed inside the gates of Heaven (the new Jerusalem).

Now hopefully you understand why many Jewish people today do not believe in Jesus Christ; nor do they follow or praise him. Their God is "David" the great warrior and not the pacifistic "Jesus" that turned the other cheek and gave unto Caesar.

Use your head for a moment and realize the Jews and Romans were arch enemies. Do you really think their "God" would be a pacifistic tax slave? Or would he have been a Warrior?

The Romans created this "Jesus" character to hopefully teach the Jews to turn the other cheek; submit to authority; give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Why would a real living God who's loving and caring order his followers to kill sinners and their children? Seriously think about this a moment: Would a loving God order the death of a child of a sinner? What did the child have to do with a mother infidelity? The child should not be held accountable for a parents sins, right?

Or did he (Vespasian aka God) order the killing of children so that one day they would not come back to revenge the death of their parents?

Why would a God demand sinners to bring their best Oxen and Cattle as a tribute to God as an offering for their sins? Could it be because there was nothing of more value that the Jews could afford? Why would it be easier for a Camel to fit through the eye of a needle than a rich man get into Heaven? Could it be, because Vespasian did not want anyone of wealth in that Kingdom but himself?

The Scriptures were back dated 40 years to the day that Titus took down Jerusalem. Remember that Jesus spoke of this real Messiah that would burn down the cities; surround Jerusalem and raze the Temple within that 40 year span. The Romans created "Jesus" and made him a passive and forgiving Messiah; one that would turn the other cheek and give unto Caesar that which was Caesars.

The supposed Crucifixion of Jesus Christ was a mockery to the Jews; the end of Christianity; the end of their messiah Jesus, and the acknowledgment of the REAL "Jesus Christ" that fulfilled all those prophesies that the Jews Jesus spoke of, and that REAL "Jesus Christ" was Titus, the Son of God (Vespasian).

They (the Romans-Flavian Caesars) wanted to be known as God (Vespasian) and the Son of God-Jesus Christ (Titus). The only way they could get the Jews to accept them as Gods was to get them to pray through this made up Jesus character they invented. The Jews would NEVER bow to a living man (Vespasian), but by bowing to "Jesus Christ", they were actually bowing to the Caesars of the Roman Empire. They wore a mask; created a strawman (Jesus). They did not care about the name; they knew that they created "Jesus", and when the Jews were bowing and praying to Him, that they were actually bowing to Vespasian and Titus.

I know this is a hard pill to swallow for Christians (myself included), but if you actually step away from the Bible and stop looking at it as some magical book, and read it in it's literal typological form, the truth is in plain sight for all to see.

The campaign of "Jesus" ministry and the campaign of Titus' war on the Jews are in perfect sequence with each other if you read Josephus' court of record of the Jewish-Roman War. Remember that Josephus was a Jewish General who was captured by Titus' Army; they spared him; he was a great mind and they had a use for him in the Empire. One record of events is totally dependent on the other; as in the ministry campaign of Jesus was actually created from Titus' campaign in his war on Jerusalem.

All "Religions" are total BS; they are meant to divide and conquer; to control the masses; to teach obedience to a master, and that master is Government.

Now you know why all the authors of the Bible never contradict each other; because it was written by a few men at the time; all in the same court.

"Jesus" spoke of his prophecy in 40 years (within his lifetime), not of 2000 years afterwards and beyond. The Flavian's back dated the Scriptures 40 years on purpose, so that when Titus actually brought down Jerusalem it would look as if HE was the real Christ.

The many "Anti-Christs" that will (already did) come, are actually nothing more than those who opposed Vespasian and Titus; they were non believers; must be possessed with demonic spirits since they did not believe in Jesus Christ (Titus). These disobedient slaves with demonic spirits were against "Anti" Jesus Christ aka Anti-Christs.

No one shall enter the Kingdom of God (Vespasian) without coming through his Son "Jesus Christ" which was actually Titus.

John 3:16

For God (Vespasian) so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son (Titus), that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Go read "Titus" at the end of the New Testament; then read Romans and Philemon where "Paul is a prisoner of Christ Jesus".

At the end of Revelation written by Josephus from the words of God (Vespasian), he warns anyone who alters the text will suffer the plagues described within.

Would a loving God actually do all those things to man just because he changes some text? Or is that the "Threat" of God (Vespasian) to anyone who would alter his words?

Now read Revelation 19:11 "The Rider on the White Horse"

I saw Heaven standing open (the walls of Jerusalem had holes in them from the battle and the gates were finally opened) and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe "dipped in blood" ...

Would a robe dipped in blood actually mean that the robe is Red or Scarlet?

A Roman Victory Parade was at hand; Titus was wearing his Victory Robe and the Victory Crown upon his head as he entered the gates of Heaven (The New Jerusalem).

Here's the famous painting on Joseph Atwill's facebook page:


The triumph was a gala affair. Presided over by Vespasian and Titus, it featured piles of booty, including gold relics taken from the destroyed Jewish Temple, paraded through the streets. Now you understand what the text means by "Streets of Gold".

Titus was the the Rider on the White Horse followed by the armies that followed him were on white horses and dressed in fine linen .... It was a VICTORY PARADE; the "Second Coming of Christ" had taken place; they were all celebrating and dressed for the occasion. It was now time for God (Vespasian) to take his Throne, and the Son of God (Titus) to be seated at his right hand.

"You are worthy to take the scroll and to open it's seals because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God..."

Titus was wounded in the war.

Once you tie the Scriptures to the Roman-Jewish War, it is plain as day.

Here's Josephus' account of the victory celebration first hand:


The most precious of objects taken from Jerusalem were items from the Temple: the golden table on which the bread of the presence had been placed, the golden lampstand, or Menorah, the golden trumpets used in calling people to worship, and a copy of the Jewish Torah. Behind the wagons that carried these objects rode Vespasian, then Titus, with Domitian beside him. The triumphal procession ended at the temple of Jupiter Capitolinus where Simon, son of Gioras, who had been the Jewish general, was put to death before all of the citizens of Rome. All of this happened in 70 A.D. when Titus destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple of God.

If you will read the book in it's literary and typological sense, you will come to realize it was an account of what had happened THEN, not what would happen 2,000 years from THEN.

Listen to Joseph Atwill explain the truth about the "Jesus" character and how and why he was brought to life:


Here's another very good interview:


Look up his other interviews on YouTube as well.

Ask yourself one question: Why would a Book inspired by God himself who loved the Jewish people more than anything in the world or universe combined, dedicate a Chapter of His Book to the "Romans" and another to "Titus"?

Answer: Because the Flavian's created Christianity and with the help of Josephus Flavius, they created the character known as "Jesus Christ", and Titus himself fulfilled all the prophesies of THEIR creation, and his Father who is now known as God and accepted as God along with Titus who would now be accepted as "Jesus Christ" had fulfilled the prophecy of the "End Times", which was nothing more than the end of Jerusalem and the Messianic Christian Movement with the "Second Coming of Christ" aka "Titus".

As a tribute to their conquering victory of the Jews and to make sure everyone living at that time knew that Vespasian was to now be recognized as God and Titus as the Son of God aka Jesus Christ, they put it in plain sight for all to see in the book of Romans and the book of Titus.

In the book of Titus, Vespasian (God) is talking to his Son Titus (Jesus Christ) and instructing him on how to teach the new slaves (Jews) to be subservient and obedient to their new God.

Just read it; it's right there in the "Holy Bible" for all to see who the REAL God and the REAL Jesus Christ really is.


This is a good overview on Joe's Blog:


Once we break the chains of religion, the political structure of the world WILL change.

The Second Coming of Jesus Christ has already taken place; and the "End Times" are nothing more than the end of the militaristic-messianic movement of the Jews in about 70 CE (Common Era).

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Cool story bro.

Cool story bro.

This is complete and utter nonsense.

But when fallacy abounds it leaves the door open to all kinds of attacks. Because of all the misinformation and false doctrines of the "church" these types of stupid attacks, like South is making, against Scripture itself are made possible.

The early apostles and believers never kept christmas, they never kept easter, they didn't keep sabbath on SUNday, they didn't confess there sins to some guy they called father, they didn't have crucifixes or rosary beads, they didn't pray to Mary, they didn't have statues in their synagogs, they NEVER knew and definitely NEVER called on the name jesus. These are ABSOLUTE FACTS.

Messiah never instituted a new religion. The New Testament is just an extension of the Old with a change to the priesthood and an emphasis on neglected aspects of the Law. The early believers kept the same Laws found in the Old Testament and followed Yahshua's example on how to keep them properly.

The early following was compromised and eventually usurped by Constantine who started the Catholic church which instituted the doctrines above. The Protestant movement broke away from the papal authority partially but retained most of the catholic pagan teachings. Aside from their "rejection" of papal authority, main stream Protestantism did little else as a whole to return to Scriptural truth.

You should all know about the ability of the "establishment" to take over a movement and make it what they want it to be to serve their own purpose. But there are always a few who keep the truth no matter how hard the establishment tries to stamp it out.


The earliest church as instituted by Christ in no way resembled anything we identify as catholocism. There's a reason they were actively persecuted by both the jews and the romans, and it wasn't because of their willing compliance. The persecution by the first being somewhat odd as they were predominately still an observant jewish sect.

You need to read the actual

You need to read the actual writings of the early Church and find out what they did instead of what you imagine they did. The Church from the first century is identical to the Catholic Church of today.

Unless, of course, you're going to use the cop-out argument that True Bible Believing Christianity® completely ceased to exist for two-thousand years, as if Matthew 16:18 was just a joke.

The christian myth is a Roman Joke

The Roman Christian myth was created as a joke book using the Jewish myth as its foundation and creating a myth that was supportive of Roman rule.

You need to read the book and not assume you have read it to get the information of the research.

The details are in CM.... watching the video is a good introduction, but you need to read the entire book to understand more clearly what was discovered.

Don't confuse the early church with today's RCC

When the Roman pope left the Church in 1054, a lot of things changed and keep changing. Although technically you're right; the one holy catholic and apostolic church has not changed at all, it's just called "orthodoxy" because all others, starting with the RCC are unorthodox. The RCC began a thousand years after Christ and simply took ownership of a history it didn't really have.

I'm very familiar with

I'm very familiar with Orthodox Christianity, nothing I haven't heard before.

That is like asking the fox who ate the chicken

I assume the "church" you are referring to is the Catholic church. They are so full of lies and false doctrine why would I look to them for truth?
Do you know what Peter means? Did you read the verse before that one? Do you understand what "rock" He is talking about? As usual you take one verse and twist it to make a whole doctrine.
And I don't know why you think True worship would cease just because the Catholic church imposed their own doctrines on people.

Because she is the only

Because she is the only Church that Christ established. The early Church taught the exact same things that the Catholic Church teaches today, because she is one and the same. http://www.staycatholic.com/early_church_fathers.htm

Yes, I know what "kepha" means, a massive rock structure. Before you say what everyone else always says, of course it says "Petros" (not "lithos") in Greek, it's a masculine noun because Jesus would not have given Peter a feminine name such as "Petra", the meanings of the two words had no distinction in Koine Greek. You act like the Church that spoke Greek for centuries understands it less than you do.

The Church either existed indestructibly for two-thousand years or it is all a lie. There is no in-between.

There is no Scriptural basis

for what you are saying. It doesn't say that the church goes through Peter and that idea is not upheld anywhere else in Scripture.

But just to play along I will say this: It would be fitting that the catholic church claims a lineage from Peter since just a few verses later Yahshua calls him the "adversary" and tells him that he does not consider the things of Elohim but only the things of men. If that doesn't describe the catholic church then I don't know what does.

Thank you.

I must add, you also don't

I must add, you also don't understand the concept of apostolic succession. It's not "the church goes through Peter", it's that all the apostles established patriarchies (Peter established Rome and Antioch, James established Jerusalem, Mark established Alexandria, and Andrew established Constantinople) and all the patriarchies are united under Peter (Alexandria and Constantinople are in schism, however), and every bishop has a lineage that can be traced back to the apostles, and every bishop carries the authority of the apostles.

Show me the Scriptures

to back that up. Where does Scripture back up the idea that Peter and his "successors" are the head of the church? You can't because Messiah is head of the church. Messiah is my intercessor and their is no one between me and him. If you accept the Vicar of Christ(Anti Christ) as your intercessor then that is your business but don't preach it as gospel.

I'd be more interested in

I'd be more interested in seeing the scriptures that explain how the Bible fell out of the sky fully compiled with no external authority declaring it the word of God.

You can't show them because they don't exist. The Bible is the product of the Church's sacred Tradition, and it is only because the Church declared it the word of God we believe it is the word of God.

I love how you make your own argument

to argue against. Your church didn't write the bible. And the New Testament is only valid when it doesn't contradict the Old Testament anyway. You don't even believe in Scripture so why are you even arguing? I'm through arguing with stupidity. Take it somewhere else.

ITT: The Bible is a fallible

ITT: The Bible is a fallible document that fell out of the sky, and the Catholic Church had nothing to do with it.

There are many books that

There are many books that will stand in support of the Bible. You can find most of them at the library. They will be in the
HIS-[s]tory section.

From the Greek "istor", not

From the Greek "istor", not "his-story."

Right, which is why Peter is

Right, which is why Peter is mentioned more than all the other apostles and always listed first among them and leads them. (Yes, I'm aware of the Council of Jerusalem, James was the Patriarch of Jerusalem so of course he would preside over it.)

Yes, of course Jesus calls Peter a stumbling block, Peter said Jesus shouldn't die and if He did not die that would interfere with God's plan.

You act like the Bible fell out of the sky in AD 33 but no one knew what it actually meant until you came along.

You're welcome.

What are the "Gospels" ?

According to the standard theological dictionary the very name “Gospel” (evangelion) means good news of military victory and Mark’s Gospel explicitly states that it is such a document (Mk 1;1). The Dictionary says the word is specifically a “technical term for news of victory” which is is “closely related with the thought of victory in battle” (pg 721). Philo uses the term 9 times including applying it to the Emperor cult. The term ‘gospel’ may be used even though the news is false. Josephus for instance uses the term for distrustworthy news brought by messengers (Ant. 18;228 and 5;227).

Understanding the meaning of this word gives an enormous clue as to what the Gospels really are. So if the gospels are good news of military victory, and are set among the Jews, we know two things. First whoever wrote them had just accomplished some sort of military victory, and second they were writing to convince the Jews this defeat was good news. Now scholars all agree that Mathew, Mark and Luke were all written around the year 80—---so it is not hard to find a series of Roman military victories that took place around that time in which the Jews were defeated. It is the Roman-Jewish war, and Joseph Atwill’s book Caesar’s Messiah goes on to show in detail specifically on what those actual battles were, in which the Jews were conquered by the Romans.

John Hudson

Utterly misinformed jibberish

It's easy to make Americans believe this kind of stuff because most of us know absolutely nothing about history and have been fed a diet of misinformation about it and religion. I feel sorry for those who accept this kind of foolishness without giving reality a chance.
Zionist have twisted Christianity and this kind of thing is the result. Do as my signature suggests and learn reality.

Z.I.O.N.ism for the FAIL

Cheers to you my Brother in Christ for knowing the origin of polytheistic ritual and distortion!

They that give up liberty for security deserve neither.

Looks as if you are the one that should give "reality a chance"

Here's some "reality" for you:

Rent it for $5 or own for $10: http://caesarsmessiah.com/

I love how people just flood this thread with baseless opinions without taking the time to evaluate the research being brought forth.

To many, this Jesus character is part of their every fiber; their entire being; their life is meaningless without him.

A mere story book; a piece of propagandist literature written over 2,000 years ago by a Roman cult still enslaves millions today.

Note: Jesus said before the generation he was speaking to at that time would pass, a "Son of Man" would come and encircle the City of Jerusalem; burn down the Galilean Cities; leave no stone atop another and raze the Temple.

He was correct ......... That "Son of Man" was Titus Flavius.

He says "the son of Man" - he

He says "the son of Man" - he was referring to himself. this event was prophesied by the OT as well. But again, it is an interesting theory.

Was referring to himself?

So Jesus prophesied that he himself would return within the time frame of that particular generation; encircle Jerusalem with an Army; burn down the Galilean Cities; leave no stone atop another, and raze the holy Temple?

Wow, he must have really hated Jerusalem. I wonder if he rode with Titus and led the troops that actually DID encircle Jerusalem; burn down the Galilean Cities; leave no stone atop another, and raze the Temple?

Yes! It was also predicted in

Yes! It was also predicted in Zechariah and other prophets. Jesus said he was coming back to judge the apostate Jews. God always signaled his "coming in judgement" by bringing a foreign nation against Israel.

If you read Matthew 23 you will see that he was bringing Judgement against Jerusalem, in that generation. That was one of the major points in the entire NT... The Jews rejected Jesus and thus were found guilty of the blood of the prophets and saints and were to be judged for it. The time of the "End" had come and God was removing the Old Covenant and establishing the New - this was symbolized by the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 AD.

Actually understanding the bible drives a dagger right through this theory.

Rome was also brought to ruin during this time - all foretold by the prophets.

please go peddle your wares

please go peddle your wares elsewhere

Truth is treason in an Empire of Lies :)

I don't have to "peddle" it; it's self evident for anyone who's read the book "Caesars Messiah" and watched the film I posted a link to above/below.

You read 1 book and watched a

You read 1 book and watched a video on the internet. Lets start the revolution!!!! yee-haw

Southern Agrarian

Sorry sir

I have had experiences that let me know our nature is from the Divine, I can look at my hand and know it was not from an explosion. I appreciate your studies, but as a studied person myself along with my experiences, there is a God, and the Catholic Church has tried to emulate and take that God's place. I know they are corrupt, but they aren't taking my salvation. God bless.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!