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The Roman Empire and the Catholic Church are about to Fall: The Roman Conspiracy to Create Jesus Christ Unveiled:

Get a load of this: http://caesarsmessiahdoc....

It's going to be released in Beverly Hills, CA. September 28, 2012

The Second Coming of Christ Has Already Happened.

There is absolutely no denial after you grasp this. It may take you a few hours to finally get the gist of it, but once it hits you, it's a WHAM you'll never forget, and you'll never look at the Scriptures the same again.

The "Holy Trinity" .... "Vespasian - Titus - Domitian" .... All three became Emperors of Rome, and after Titus' death, Domitian constructed the "Arch of Titus":

Arch of Titus in Rome was constructed in 82 AD by the Roman Emperor Domitian shortly after the death of his older brother Titus to commemorate Titus’ victory in the Sack of Jerusalem in 70 AD. The Arch of Titus has provided the general model for many of the triumphal arches erected since the 16th century including the Arc de Triomphe.

The "Second Coming of Christ" was Titus' take down of Jerusalem, and the Son of God was memorialized with this mighty Arch. The second attempt was successful, and that was the Second Coming.

As seen here: http://www.touropia.com/a...

The concept of a divine trinity consisting of a father, son and “Holy Ghost” – the Greek words actually mean “awful spirit” – comes from Josephus. Josephus applies the Jews’ messianic prophecies, not just to Vespasian, but to his dynasty. In other words the real trinity is Vespasian, his son Titus, and his son Domitian – the awful spirit.

Domitian was the "Holy Ghost" - The "Awful Spirit" who wanted to be recognized as a God himself.

In Greek evangelion, a technical term meaning “good news of military victory.” In English, it is translated as “gospel.

The "Gospels" is nothing more than a military victory account of the Romans win of the Jewish. The New Testament was written by the Flavian Dynasty with the help of Josephus Flavius

For anyone who doubts that the Flavian's of the Roman Dynasty and Josephus were the ones that actually wrote the New Testament and created "Jesus", just take a moment out of your day and ask yourself why is the Bible so Antisemitic and so "Pro-Roman"? .... "Turn the other cheek" .... "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's", etc.

Now ask yourself if you've ever even noticed the book of "Romans" and the book of "Titus" in the NT? Now are you ready for the FACE PALM moment?

Why would a Jewish loving "God" dedicate in his written words, a book to "Romans" and another to "Titus"?

Go read Titus, and realize that it is actually Vespasian (God) giving the Son of God (Titus) instructions on how to teach the newly acquired slaves (Jewish after the Romans conquered them in the War) how to be obedient to their new masters (Vespasian and Titus).

The Original Jewish people had their own God, and he was David; a real Titan; a warrior; a man of war that even brought down Goliath and was soon to take the head off of Caesar (Dead Sea Scrolls), and there were many Jews amongst and within the Roman Empire who were gathering in groups discussing how their God "David" was coming soon to take the head off of Caesar. Nero didn't like this and called upon Vespasian who he had earlier exiled to return to the Empire and deal with this disobedient Jews, and he did along with his great warrior son Titus.

Vespasian and his son Titus went to Jerusalem and tried to bring down the city, but failed. That was the first coming of Jesus Christ (Titus). Vespasian was wounded and told his son Titus he MUST reenter Jerusalem and finally take her down and make all those unruly Jews submit to the Roman Empire, and Titus went back to Jerusalem and did just that.

Here's Part 1: and there are 5 parts total:


And that was the "Second Coming of Christ" aka "Titus".

The following account of Vespasian's triumph in Rome is provided to us by the Jewish historian, Josephus who was present at the festivities. His description not only provides insight into this victory celebration but also of the nature of other triumphs staged after a Roman victory. We join his story in the early morning hours of the day of the festivities:


The Jews who submitted to their Master (God) and came to him through his Son (Titus) were allowed to enter the "Kingdom of God" aka "Heaven". Those that disobeyed were killed or not allowed inside the gates of Heaven (the new Jerusalem).

Now hopefully you understand why many Jewish people today do not believe in Jesus Christ; nor do they follow or praise him. Their God is "David" the great warrior and not the pacifistic "Jesus" that turned the other cheek and gave unto Caesar.

Use your head for a moment and realize the Jews and Romans were arch enemies. Do you really think their "God" would be a pacifistic tax slave? Or would he have been a Warrior?

The Romans created this "Jesus" character to hopefully teach the Jews to turn the other cheek; submit to authority; give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Why would a real living God who's loving and caring order his followers to kill sinners and their children? Seriously think about this a moment: Would a loving God order the death of a child of a sinner? What did the child have to do with a mother infidelity? The child should not be held accountable for a parents sins, right?

Or did he (Vespasian aka God) order the killing of children so that one day they would not come back to revenge the death of their parents?

Why would a God demand sinners to bring their best Oxen and Cattle as a tribute to God as an offering for their sins? Could it be because there was nothing of more value that the Jews could afford? Why would it be easier for a Camel to fit through the eye of a needle than a rich man get into Heaven? Could it be, because Vespasian did not want anyone of wealth in that Kingdom but himself?

The Scriptures were back dated 40 years to the day that Titus took down Jerusalem. Remember that Jesus spoke of this real Messiah that would burn down the cities; surround Jerusalem and raze the Temple within that 40 year span. The Romans created "Jesus" and made him a passive and forgiving Messiah; one that would turn the other cheek and give unto Caesar that which was Caesars.

The supposed Crucifixion of Jesus Christ was a mockery to the Jews; the end of Christianity; the end of their messiah Jesus, and the acknowledgment of the REAL "Jesus Christ" that fulfilled all those prophesies that the Jews Jesus spoke of, and that REAL "Jesus Christ" was Titus, the Son of God (Vespasian).

They (the Romans-Flavian Caesars) wanted to be known as God (Vespasian) and the Son of God-Jesus Christ (Titus). The only way they could get the Jews to accept them as Gods was to get them to pray through this made up Jesus character they invented. The Jews would NEVER bow to a living man (Vespasian), but by bowing to "Jesus Christ", they were actually bowing to the Caesars of the Roman Empire. They wore a mask; created a strawman (Jesus). They did not care about the name; they knew that they created "Jesus", and when the Jews were bowing and praying to Him, that they were actually bowing to Vespasian and Titus.

I know this is a hard pill to swallow for Christians (myself included), but if you actually step away from the Bible and stop looking at it as some magical book, and read it in it's literal typological form, the truth is in plain sight for all to see.

The campaign of "Jesus" ministry and the campaign of Titus' war on the Jews are in perfect sequence with each other if you read Josephus' court of record of the Jewish-Roman War. Remember that Josephus was a Jewish General who was captured by Titus' Army; they spared him; he was a great mind and they had a use for him in the Empire. One record of events is totally dependent on the other; as in the ministry campaign of Jesus was actually created from Titus' campaign in his war on Jerusalem.

All "Religions" are total BS; they are meant to divide and conquer; to control the masses; to teach obedience to a master, and that master is Government.

Now you know why all the authors of the Bible never contradict each other; because it was written by a few men at the time; all in the same court.

"Jesus" spoke of his prophecy in 40 years (within his lifetime), not of 2000 years afterwards and beyond. The Flavian's back dated the Scriptures 40 years on purpose, so that when Titus actually brought down Jerusalem it would look as if HE was the real Christ.

The many "Anti-Christs" that will (already did) come, are actually nothing more than those who opposed Vespasian and Titus; they were non believers; must be possessed with demonic spirits since they did not believe in Jesus Christ (Titus). These disobedient slaves with demonic spirits were against "Anti" Jesus Christ aka Anti-Christs.

No one shall enter the Kingdom of God (Vespasian) without coming through his Son "Jesus Christ" which was actually Titus.

John 3:16

For God (Vespasian) so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son (Titus), that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Go read "Titus" at the end of the New Testament; then read Romans and Philemon where "Paul is a prisoner of Christ Jesus".

At the end of Revelation written by Josephus from the words of God (Vespasian), he warns anyone who alters the text will suffer the plagues described within.

Would a loving God actually do all those things to man just because he changes some text? Or is that the "Threat" of God (Vespasian) to anyone who would alter his words?

Now read Revelation 19:11 "The Rider on the White Horse"

I saw Heaven standing open (the walls of Jerusalem had holes in them from the battle and the gates were finally opened) and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe "dipped in blood" ...

Would a robe dipped in blood actually mean that the robe is Red or Scarlet?

A Roman Victory Parade was at hand; Titus was wearing his Victory Robe and the Victory Crown upon his head as he entered the gates of Heaven (The New Jerusalem).

Here's the famous painting on Joseph Atwill's facebook page:


The triumph was a gala affair. Presided over by Vespasian and Titus, it featured piles of booty, including gold relics taken from the destroyed Jewish Temple, paraded through the streets. Now you understand what the text means by "Streets of Gold".

Titus was the the Rider on the White Horse followed by the armies that followed him were on white horses and dressed in fine linen .... It was a VICTORY PARADE; the "Second Coming of Christ" had taken place; they were all celebrating and dressed for the occasion. It was now time for God (Vespasian) to take his Throne, and the Son of God (Titus) to be seated at his right hand.

"You are worthy to take the scroll and to open it's seals because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God..."

Titus was wounded in the war.

Once you tie the Scriptures to the Roman-Jewish War, it is plain as day.

Here's Josephus' account of the victory celebration first hand:


The most precious of objects taken from Jerusalem were items from the Temple: the golden table on which the bread of the presence had been placed, the golden lampstand, or Menorah, the golden trumpets used in calling people to worship, and a copy of the Jewish Torah. Behind the wagons that carried these objects rode Vespasian, then Titus, with Domitian beside him. The triumphal procession ended at the temple of Jupiter Capitolinus where Simon, son of Gioras, who had been the Jewish general, was put to death before all of the citizens of Rome. All of this happened in 70 A.D. when Titus destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple of God.

If you will read the book in it's literary and typological sense, you will come to realize it was an account of what had happened THEN, not what would happen 2,000 years from THEN.

Listen to Joseph Atwill explain the truth about the "Jesus" character and how and why he was brought to life:


Here's another very good interview:


Look up his other interviews on YouTube as well.

Ask yourself one question: Why would a Book inspired by God himself who loved the Jewish people more than anything in the world or universe combined, dedicate a Chapter of His Book to the "Romans" and another to "Titus"?

Answer: Because the Flavian's created Christianity and with the help of Josephus Flavius, they created the character known as "Jesus Christ", and Titus himself fulfilled all the prophesies of THEIR creation, and his Father who is now known as God and accepted as God along with Titus who would now be accepted as "Jesus Christ" had fulfilled the prophecy of the "End Times", which was nothing more than the end of Jerusalem and the Messianic Christian Movement with the "Second Coming of Christ" aka "Titus".

As a tribute to their conquering victory of the Jews and to make sure everyone living at that time knew that Vespasian was to now be recognized as God and Titus as the Son of God aka Jesus Christ, they put it in plain sight for all to see in the book of Romans and the book of Titus.

In the book of Titus, Vespasian (God) is talking to his Son Titus (Jesus Christ) and instructing him on how to teach the new slaves (Jews) to be subservient and obedient to their new God.

Just read it; it's right there in the "Holy Bible" for all to see who the REAL God and the REAL Jesus Christ really is.


This is a good overview on Joe's Blog:


Once we break the chains of religion, the political structure of the world WILL change.

The Second Coming of Jesus Christ has already taken place; and the "End Times" are nothing more than the end of the militaristic-messianic movement of the Jews in about 70 CE (Common Era).

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Do you refuse to believe

that your appendix is a evolutionary leftover, as is also your coccyx?

The refusal to believe something because you don't want to believe is ignorant and dangerous.

We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts


...is thought to actually be a kind of factory for promoting growth of good bacteria; coccyx helps you sit down comfortably by providing a third point of impact and lots of muscles and tendons attach to it such as those controlling your pelvic floor muscles which help you know when to go to the toilet and those that help you walk.

As I understand, the term 'vestigial' is avoided these days by biologists to avoid the embarrassment of having to make a retraction later.


...as a simple wikipedia search points out. Who's doing the research here, and who's promoting ideology?

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thank you--

you are correct, but you said it better than I could have said it--


it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

It's clear that some sort of evolutionary processes

have taken place, that is, with regard to physiology. But the theory of evolution doesn't explain everything. (It's just a theory, as yet unproven despite what some textbooks might say.) Furthermore, we are far from understanding how things work in the here and now, let alone what may have transpired to bring things about. I'd say that acknowledgment of the spiritual realm would need to be taken into account; but even if one did not believe in God or a spiritual world, he needn't suspend REASON to know that there is more than can be seen with the naked eye, more than just matter. For instance, Kirlian photography shows energy "auras," with various practical applications. And can you see a sound wave? Or the wind? "Who has seen the wind? Neither I nor you: But when the leaves hang trembling, The wind is passing through. Who has seen the wind? Neither you nor I: But when the trees bow down their heads, The wind is passing by." --Christina Rossetti. There are mysteries! I have faith that it's all there in the Bible - above our comprehension but that will one day be revealed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfR_HWMzgyc

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

I stopped reading at 'just a theory'...

What kind of BUFU, Nowhere school did you go to? Did they teach any kind of science class there?
You make yourself look very stupid when you say 'just a theory' when you are referring to science.

Look it up.

We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts

It bothers me too when I hear

It bothers me too when I hear people say it is "just a theory", but for a different reason. I don't think that it is past the hypothesis stage. Darwins ideas got called a theory because of political reasons.

The other frustrating part of the arguements for and against don't seem to want to distinquish fact from interpretation of fact. For example: carbon dating isn't fact - the resultant numbers are interpretations of scientific data based on several assumptions that can't be proven to be true (in-fact I can make a pretty good case that at least some of the assumptions are false).

In reality both sides of the argument come down to faith. Usually I can bring most to the point of seeing this after a couple hours focused discussion. The problem is that the believer in evolution ends the conversation always with "well . . . my belief is much better than yours!".

Some would make the very same comment to you.

Whatever you believe, it IS still just a theory. Now read your condescending comment and apply it to yourself. You should have known better.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox



We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts

Yes, having studied advanced physics I do "get" that.

"In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be."

But, it still doesn't make a theory true. Don't get me wrong, ANCAP_REASON. I really don't care whether evolution is true or false. It doesn't matter to me at all. It is whatever it is. My objection was to your insulting comment.

All I would say to those whose faith would be absolutely shattered if the theory is true is "Why? What difference would it make?" God is God. Either you believe in a First Cause or you don't. Those who would turn the creation story into a vital part of their religious faith are probably leaving their brains outside of the church doors.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I can accept your approach.

It is quite preferable to those that do not know or cannot understand the usage of the term "theory" in a the field of science.

If my comment was insulting, and perhaps it was, it is because I feel insulted by the willfully ignorant who proselytize. And I am not talking about you.

We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts

I can certainly understand that!

The only problem is that mdefarge was not proselytizing. In fact, I suspect she comes from the same kind of educational background as I do. Read her comment all the way through. Does she sound like she leaves her brains outside the church doors? I don't think so.

I understand your frustration with those who have eyes and ears and refuse to see or hear and can only parrot what has been drummed into their heads, totally disengaging their brains. But, you lashed out on the wrong person and, imo, you do owe her an apology. Just sayin'.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

agree . . .


it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Nonsense! Nonsense! Nonsense!

This is utter nonsense. Who at Daily Paul allowed this gibberish to be posted. It has nothing to do with the Ron Paul campaign. I am demanding that it be taken down in an e-mail to the moderators.

It only takes one to KEEP AMERICANS FREE. Know your duties & rights as a juror. Stop the unconstitutional conviction of innocents in federal custody. The Fully Informed Jury CALL 1-800-TEL-JURY www.fija.org IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. It's that important.

I'm guessing its the same

I'm guessing its the same people who let all the Christian nonsense stay posted as well, which also has nothing to do with the Ron Paul campaign, yet its posted all the time.

Blessings )o(

I agree that it is nonsense--

but I would not like to see it censored.

I don't agree with the OP, at all, but there is a 'thought field' within the 'liberty' community that ties everything evil to the Catholic church, which is pretty silly, but--

let them/him/her speak--

*we* can ignore--

so why am I bumping this?


it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

This is nonsense

I tried giving you a chance, but you started making less and less sense. There is a definite anti-christian sentiment within the new world order, the media, universities, schools and just about everywhere else in our society... judging from the comments below, many of which actually gave this nonsense some credence, I see that the anti-christian sentiment has even infiltrated the DP.

Thats too bad.

Semper Fortis


Try anti-faith in the irrational and unprovable. Crawl out from your hole and listen to evidence, not the "authority" of an old book.

We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts

me thinks this belongs in off

me thinks this belongs in off topic...

- Grow Mushrooms at Home

The Cross

I am pretty sure the cross was not utilized by the Church as a symbol of sacrifice or whatever you may want to term the Cross until the 7th Century AD.

That is a long time after the death of Jesus.



Pretty sure?

Research, research!!

the latin cross or ‘crux immissa’ is the most popular form of crosses.
during the first three centuries of christianity, the cross was
rare in christian iconography (although it is found on coins,
medals, and ornaments anteriour to the christian era and
descriptions of it are found in christian writings from the
early 2nd century onwards. the cross first became prominent
in christian imagery during the late 3rd century).
the upper arm of the latin cross and the two side arms are of
equal length while the lower arm is twice as long as any of the
other three. it was on this cross that christ is said to have been
crucified, and thus it became accepted as the christian cross."

The Jewish Encyclopedia says:[12]

The cross as a Christian symbol or "seal" came into use at least as early as the second century (see "Apost. Const." iii. 17; Epistle of Barnabas, xi.-xii.; Justin, "Apologia," i. 55-60; "Dial. cum Tryph." 85-97); and the marking of a cross upon the forehead and the chest was regarded as a talisman against the powers of demons (Tertullian, "De Corona," iii.; Cyprian, "Testimonies," xi. 21–22; Lactantius, "Divinæ Institutiones," iv. 27, and elsewhere). Accordingly the Christian Fathers had to defend themselves, as early as the second century, against the charge of being worshipers of the cross, as may be learned from Tertullian, "Apologia," xii., xvii., and Minucius Felix, "Octavius," xxix. Christians used to swear by the power of the cross

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Crucifix - Pretty sure?

My apologies, I meant crucifix and I am pretty sure.

"Crucifix appears at the end of the 7th. Century." pg. 177.


First Historical Transformations of Christianity By E.P. Evans

Boston: Willam V. Spencer, 1867, page 177.

Still quite a bit of time since the death of Jesus.


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You had to expect all the down votes

I figured out religion was a creation of man when I researched the orgins of Government about 3 years ago when I "woke up". It's tough enough waking up to the reality of the real world and for me, I also had to deal with letting go of god at the same time.

There are a handful or two of us atheists on the DP but most people here refuse to do the research and refuse to use logic and reason when considering who benefits by keeping the population in fear via religion. (and now terrorism)

For every child to come into the world "a sinner" and to grow up thinking both Santa Clause and God are "real" but around 8 years of age when most kids figure out Santa Clause isn't real...they logically begin to question if God is real too. But, all to often, every person in a position of authority will oontinue to tell the kid God is real.

Not much in my view other than physical abuse could be more damaging for a devoloping mind. It's no wonder so many people remain clueless and incapable of logical thinking.

Hopefully there will come a day when people stop beliving in superstitutions and accept the fact that there are somethings we just don't know..AND THATS OKAY! Making up a fantasical story and indoctrinating our children with the fantasy is not a valid mannor in which to answer to the questions about how we got here, why we are here, and what happens when we die.

Glad you have chosen logic and reason "The South". It only takes about 6 months to get past the pain of letting go of God...but once you do, oh my...life is so much fuller and far less stressful.

Best Wishes.

Typically, the belief in God

Typically, the belief in God goes hand-in-hand with the belief in Satan. And, while God can feel elusive at times and his perceived absence in my life has often led me to ponder his existence, I can not ignore that he does exist. How can I be so sure? Well, while I haven't "met" him in a human way, I have met one of Satan's minions and stood toe-to-toe with it. It is not something I would ever wish on my worst enemy. And, its reaction to a Catholic Priest allows me to stand in confidence of the holiness of Catholicism, no matter how much people would like to think otherwise.

your perspective is interesting and . . .

one that most people (even people of faith) don't always consider--

I had the same experience (I'm not Catholic), and that experience led me to God (within my own faith, Christian, but not Catholic, but I still don't doubt the truth of your words; I believe holy men and women exist in all religious faiths)

Yes, the existence of evil calls for the existence of good--

and . . .

there is faith.

It does become exhausting 'battling' evil both in a private sphere and a public sphere, but God is there, holding my hand.

Thank you for your words--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I, too, believe there are

I, too, believe there are holy in all faiths and as you know, an experience like that is life altering. I can palpably remember the physical feeling of being in the presence of this entity and it makes me sick to my stomach. When you feel its touch and hear the grotesque snarling you will never again believe there is no God! As horrible as it was, I feel it was a gift (as you probably do, too) as God peeled back the veil of this reality to show me more but I sure hope he NEVER EVER EVER does it again!

I, too, would prefer never to have a . . .


I was a religious person, but I was also a doubter--

so I needed the experience--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--


Is a creation of man. Whether a creation of government...I doubt that, however, havign found that government can often use religion to control those who have FAITH governments often do not overtly fight religion. Governments are generally trying to fight faith, but that always has been, and always will be a losing battle as it is impossible to defeat an idea whose time is now and forever after. As a Catholic, I go to mass on Sunday, that is religion; but I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior who suffered the indignity of living as mortal man in order to absolve me of sin, and show me a better way, and that is my FAITH. Religion is a construct of man that helps to evangelize to the unbelievers.

Josh Brueggen
Jack of all Trades
Precinct Commiteeman Precinct 5 Rock Island Co Illinois

Oh ho ho, that was so-o-o-o

Oh ho ho, that was so-o-o-o condescendingly priceless; another 'Superior Position' taker voices his 'Explanation Of Everything' while getting in a stab at all us 'Mugs Who Haven't Realised where It's Really At'.

If you Ubermensch could just put the superior intellect on hold for one second and actually do the research you condemn everyone else for not doing, you'd find that a lot of people take up religion because THEY HAVE done the research. i was an atheist for over 10 years before becoming a Christian; I've been one for nearly 25 years. You don't have a monopoly on 'Logic and Reason', because they are merely mental tools for thinking, not philosophical positions. If anyone has done the Libertarian, humanist, free-thought movement more harm than pseudo-religious 'We Are The Elite, Cos We Think Right (and everyone who is right agrees with me)' Ayn Rand, I'd like to know who; her influence has been pernicious as far as not teaching people to think for themselves - while respecting the opinions of others - is concerned. Or perhaps Ron Paul, Tom Woods, Michael Novak, Robert Murphy, Leonard Opitz, Lew Rockwell, etc are just schizos.

I'll tell you the evidence for lack of logic and reason: it's peppering you 'argument' with value-laden words such as 'brainwash' 'superstition' 'dogma' 'incapable of logical thinking' 'abuse' 'fairytale' 'myth' 'indoctrination' etc., and thinking you have made an argument.

And I'll tell you what is the worst aspect of this: so-called Libertarians dictating what people should and shouldn't think, and without personally knowing most of us if any, declaring that we 'refuse to do the research and refuse to use logic and reason'.

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