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Police Say Man Handcuffed With Arms Behind Back Shot Himself In Head

"This story – like any that deal with government corruption or police brutality – lack the pertinent details to jump to any conclusions but what is being reported is somehow a man was searched, handcuffed behind his back and double locked in the back of a patrol car.

Just moments later, police say the they heard thumping in the back of the car and then man shot himself in the back of the head.

There are simply no answers to some basic questions and the news simply didn’t even bother to ask them but at this point the story is pretty unbelievable.

Instead of asking those questions, in typical parrot media fashion, the story simply has a quote from the dead man’s mother saying her son was not suicidal and she does not believe the official story."

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/08/02/police-man-handc...



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The fact is we do not know.

The fact is we do not know. What amazes me is all the jumping to conclusions from some folks I was under the impression believed strongly in innocence until proven guilty. That people are individuals, that segregating people by groups and believing that they are evil or inferior based upon their membership of a group is the basis for racism and hatred.

Could this be a murder? It is possible. Could Chavis have shot himself? It is possible. So far comments seem to suggest the disbelief that Chavis intentionally shot himself which I strongly agree with but I do believe that it is possible the he shot himself. The gun he had was a stolen gun and if he did indeed shoot himself then I suspect that it occurred while he would be trying to hide the gun under the car seat, not that he committed suicide. I have had many a person ditch things under my back seats and have come very close to missing a couple of guns in searches during the early years. I also have personal experience watching people slip handcuffs in front of them and just plain slip out of them, it happens.

Do we know what happened? Not now but we will and if I am playing the odds I think it sounds more feasible that Chavis had a stolen piece of crap gun on him that went off when he was trying to ditch it in the back seat rather than an officer walking up to him and shooting him in his back seat with witness's present and a camera rolling.

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Jumping to conclusions with little to no facts is a regular occurrence on here.

You really think that's playing the odds?

If so, I'd love to play Texas Hold'Em with you.

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How Does An Unarmed, Bound & Cuffed Man Shoot Himself?

The bastard that murdered him needs to go to prison for the rest of his frigin days. That police department needs to be sued to the high heavens..

What rational thinking person is going to be this frigin lie that he killed himself bound, cuffed and unarmed in a police squad car...RIDICULOUS!!

There Was A Struggle

for the policeman's gun, during which, the suspect was shot dead.

I lived /worked in the Philippines for several years; that's almost always the way these suspect deaths there ended up being reported. Another was 'the suspect died after jumping / falling out of the vehicle while being transported to police headquarters.

I see police-related suspect deaths and their reporting have now been elevated to that high standard in the US. Who says there's no progress in public safety in this country?

i demand a 2 week paid vacation for this pig

and then a slap on the wrist after he is investigated by this fellow officers.

if my demands aren't met...... i would be surprised.

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I would be suprised as

I would be suprised as well...

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Some of you dont have any knowledge of what double-cuffed means.

That's 2 pairs of cuffs used, in succession, not 2 cuffs per 1 wrist on both sides. 1 cuff/1 wrist; 1cuff/other cuff; 1 cuff/other cuff; 1 cuff/1 wrist.

^ double-cuffed, lengthwise...

That gives more left or right angling ability/manueverability, so he could've actually shot himself.

Idiot: "he was left-handed, but he shot himself in the right temple. impossible!"

Yeah, do you, as a right or left handed person, use your other hand for anything, or are you simply gimped and only use your writing hand for everything? Are some people ambidextrious, or most others, at least having pretty good accuracy when using a non-writing hand for [insert what you choose]?

Idiot: "he was frisked twice!"

So what, I remember watching a prison documentary where the prisoner (very overweight) smuggled a loaded handgun INTO county jail ater being frisked at least twice (hidden under his flabby stomach.)

The guy in this story, who was double-cuffed, was probably overweight also, hence the need for double-cuffing (because his arms couldn't reach around his back far enough to put his wrists close enough together for a single set of cuffs.)

I can't believe this thread. What the f|_|ck is wrong with you guys/girls?

Seriously!

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He was skinny...

He was very thin..... I saw the newscast and they showed his picture. Was definitely thin.

Also, what else doesn't make sense, is his girlfriend got a call from him when he got pulled over and he said he would probably need her to bail him out of jail.

So, my opinion is, you got a thin guy, called his girl friend, cops walk away, he ends up dead....

To me, that' quite strange.

Why would the cops double cuff this guy anyway? Especially if he was thin...

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Hmm. Thank you for your reply.

Yeah, I re-read the piece.

It says he was 'double locked' (cuffed and locked in the cop car?) not double-cuffed.

My mistake. I was kind of drunk when I wrote my other comment lol.

It's possible he shot himself. It's possible the police shot him.

By the way, I hate most of the police.

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Double Locked

Their is a little button on all handcuffs, when it's pressed the handcuffs can no longer tighten. This is to prevent the cuffs from closing too tight on a persons wrists when they sit or put pressure on the cuffs. I wonder why it was reported that they were double locked since it is irrelevant to the story. Maybe the reporter didn't know what it meant either and just repeated it...

This is from my lovely state.

This is from my lovely state. Of course if I lived in Jonesboro, I'd shoot myself in the head too...

This shouldn't shock any of you

this sort of thing happens every week in America... the only shocking part of this story is that it made it into the news.

It's this sort of regular occurrence that has led the occupy kids to hold weekly FTP "Fuck The Police" rallies across the nation.

In America you're 8 times more likely to be murdered by police than die at the hands of a "terrorist" (although I would argue that cops are terrorists)

At their inceptions, the #Liberty, #OccupyWallStreet and #TeaParty movements all had the same basic goal... What happened?

That's because there is a certain segment of the police force...

....Who are nothing but undercover, dyed in the wool Zionists who are loving the payola from the MIC. These guys even drive around wearing sign posts from Lockheed Martin. And this is a very small minority of police officers but they are plainly a gang.

I know not everyone likes to hear that word a lot of the time, but racist cops who commit this many criminal felonies are definitely Zionuts.

I have heard first hand accounts that these windbags can't get a job anywhere, ever again, after incidents like this. Its like they just flip their lid and figure they are in in Tel Aviv/Saudi Arabia. These jokers are going to be throwing down their habana Talmuds when the r3volution gets through with the crooks.

I'm not blaming a small group

I'm not blaming a small group of cops. I'm blaming ALL OF THEM. Like King George II of Texas said. you're either with us, or you're against us.

it would seem the cops have chosen the wrong side.

At their inceptions, the #Liberty, #OccupyWallStreet and #TeaParty movements all had the same basic goal... What happened?

If you're blaming all the departments, then yes....

They are all MUNICIPAL corporations tied to a private foreign cartel and that's just a fact. That isn't a conspiracy theory.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/november222011/adl-occupy...

If you're talking individual officers, well then you are very wrong on that score. Most of them loathe the scam, but can't break off it.

I agree with you on the

I agree with you on the municipal corp and the conspiracy-fact BUT I'm sick of the double-standard and I believe it's time to hold the cops accountable just like they try to hold others accountable. For example, if you're a young minority male and you live within a geographic area associated with a gang, you're considered a gang-member and therefore criminal by cop-logic... Using their logic, if some of the cops are criminals, all of the cops are criminals.

You're far more likely to suffer violence at the hands of police than at the hands of non-cop gang members.

At their inceptions, the #Liberty, #OccupyWallStreet and #TeaParty movements all had the same basic goal... What happened?

Not to worry...

justice will be served. After all, I heard the newsman say that the PD was investigating all of the angles.

Therefore, since there is only one, obvious, glaring, common sense angle it must stand to reason that in short time there will be a former cop sharing a cell w/one of his perps. Right?

How about using some of those basic forensics. It shouldn't be that hard. If the kid had a gun, trace the bullet. Case solved. If the bullet doesn't match his or the cops gun, then you have a whole other scenario. This should, should...should be settled quickly. But it won't. Because it is rather obvious what happened.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin

The Federal Reserve is a private club, with you all uninvited...

That club includes the boys in blue.
Some of these cops are so far up the Federal Reserve your head would just spin, they receive paid grants all the time, free trips overseas, taser training + the works.

Don't mess with these psychopaths. Occupy Wall Street should be flooding the courts to get them arrested.

Don't ever confront one of these nazis on your own, this gang of cops will assume you might be a Muslim. Or up to something Muslim related.

Interesting...

care to share some kind of a source to back that up? I say that in a truly curious manner. I am not doubting the possibility just would like something to go on.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin

Of course...

http://www.policemag.com/Forums/Police-Magazine-Forum/Office...

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/november222011/adl-occupy...

Glad to be of some assistance. You can put that to some use out there.

(PS: The 'boys in blue gang' isn't really that large as you want to believe.....the ones getting their rocks off from Tel Aviv & outside training grounds is a small minority, but a dangerous gang)

That's what I get for asking.

Thanks. I think...

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin

Wow

Just read that Salem article. That was good stuff. Those videos made me very mad. I will not ever fight for Israel. If sent to, I will go AWOL.

Must have been a hellava angle in which to shoot yourself

I'd sue the living sh#it out of that police department.I'd make such a stink you'd think we were being invaded...

Cunning citizens

At the next level of the police state we will see a frisked man, handcuffed behind his back, shoot himself through the mouth. The more efficient the police becomes in protecting us, the more inventive the ordinary man will turn up to be in committing crimes and suicides ;)

Well it is Arkansas after all

Look up the term "Arkancide"
I remember reading about a fellow who committed Arkancide by tying his hands behind his back, kneeling at the edge of a lake and shooting his self in the back of the head, so his body fell into the water. it as ruled a suicide. so this is just small time nothing, to see or know here move along please *Sarcasm* on the last sentence please

As Michael Rivero would say...

"If you believe this story, I've got some of Sadaam Hussein's nuclear weapons for you."

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And if you believe that.....

I have a bridge to sell you in the swiss alps.

Beware of anything which smells like a diversion tactic, such as a Black Panthers riot or anything to do with these armed vigilante gangs in New Orleans. They're really out to cause chaos.