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Virgil Goode sounds like he is more in line with Ron Paul's philosophy than Gary Johnson.

Go to this site and you can make your own comparison of Goode vs Johnson. If I was a betting man. Which I am not. I feel Goode of the Costitution Party would garner Paul's endorsement over Johnson's. But, people we still have the convention coming up! Ron Paul!!!! 2012 :)

Just want to show the Johnson supporters on here their would be another choice.

http://www.goodeforpresident2012.com/the-issues.html

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Looks BS-y to me

Looks like standard neocon/politician fare.

Little alarms go off when you see too detailed an explanation on the importance of JOBS or when they get all nuancy about certain types of alternative energies or picking and choosing which countries should have their sovereignty protected.

Need more answers like 'get the govt out of the economy, stop bombing and killing everybody overseas., etc.

If I'm reading about the use of hydrofuels and protecting Venezuela on an political issues list than the list is probably not for me.

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No point in Arguing

When you vote for third party people you are supporting the issues that the candidate centerpiece just as much as you are endorsing the person themselves.
I feel strongly about issues like runaway immigration, unfair trade and loss of national sovereignty. No one else is addressing these topics in the way I wish them to be addressed. Most take the opposite viewpoint if any at all.
I will vote for Goode because of the stances he is taking on these issues TODAY.

Have his positions moved? Yes.
Would I blindly trust him to be POTUS? Of course not, but does anyone expect him or any non corporate shill to be taking the oath? Come on. We are adults, aren't we?
These are symbolic votes so pick a symbol you can live with and let's move on.

Exclusive IPR Interview: Virgil Goode Makes His Case to Ron Paul

Exclusive IPR Interview: Virgil Goode Makes His Case to Ron Paul Supporters

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2012/05/exclusive-...

kinda seems like a neocon..

Hate to say it but i just spent about thirty seconds scanning the main page of his website and his answer for healthcare is tort reform and he refuses to say that foreign aid should be altogether cut off. No mention of audit the fed or even the federal reserve at all. Even the newbs on the DP know more than guys like this, i just don't get it.

I wish there was another choice but it looks like Gary Johnson is it, and he really isnt a bad one.

Virgil Goode...

Goode's primary policy initiatives were opposition to amnesty for illegal aliens, veterans' healthcare, and the enactment in 2004 of a $9.6 billion buyout for tobacco farmers. Goode has sponsored legislation to permit deployment of the U.S. Armed Forces to the U.S.-Mexico border. He voted in 2002 to authorize the Iraq War and in support of an $87 billion Iraq War supplemental spending bill.

Goode is an advocate of a federal prohibition of online poker. In 2006, he cosponsored H.R. 4777, the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act.

Goode voted in 2007 against a resolution opposing the increase in troop numbers in Iraq, saying that he didn't want to "aid and assist the Islamic jihadists who want the green flag of the crescent and star to wave over the Capitol of the United States and over the White House of this country" and that "radical Muslims" wanted to control the world and put "In Muhammad We Trust" on American currency.

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Yeah... Sounds like Ron Paul to me... cough... cough... BS... cough... cough

For every issue you find

For every issue you find disagreement on between Goode and Ron, I can find two where Johnson and Ron differ. The Constitution Party is the party Ron endorsed in 2008, and is probably, in the privacy of the booth, how he is voting again.

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Gary Johnson was against Iraq from the beginning...

before it was "hip"

Meh

I really like Chuck Baldwin (not nearly as much as I love the good doctor, of course). I'm a little disappointed he isn't running with the Constitution Party again. Maybe he's a possible Ron Paul VP choice? :P

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Chew on this one...

Virgil Goode: Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)...Bad Vote Bud!
Very lame on civil liberties. Seems on second glance that Virgil is closer to Frothy than Ron Paul.

Yes the Constitution Party looks like it has been taken over. Sad!

Here is an in depth look at his stances and record throughout his political career.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Virgil_Goode.htm#Gun_Control

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Thanks for checking yourself. :)

I saw your thread and thought "For Fucks Sake" lol

I've been doing some research on Virgil "Constitutional My Ass" Goode and he aint nuttin but neocon.

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Okay, thank you for that info!

I'm surprised that someone with that type of record would be the CP candidate!

Debbie

p.s.

Aside from being in RP's liberty caucus...he is pro-life, pro-2nd., and pro-free markets and soundly against the NAU.

http://www.conservativeactionalerts.com/2012/06/goode-enough...

Goode was obviously hawkish on FP though.

Perhaps he has re-evaluated his positions?

http://www.conservativeactionalerts.com/2012/06/goode-enough...

"IPR: It’s likely Ron Paul will not be endorsing 3rd party candidates this year as he has done in the past. His campaign has flatly ruled out any support for the Libertarian party nominee, and many political observers see Congressman Paul’s ultimate goal as building a Republican base for his son, Senator Rand Paul, to run a national campaign in 2016. In the meantime, millions of Ron Paul supporters are up for grabs come November. What will you do to reach out to them?

Goode: Ron Paul has been a friend from my first days in Congress. I learned a lot as a member of his Liberty Caucus in the House. I understand his interests in his son’s viability as a presidential candidate, but I’m always an optimist: I’d welcome Ron’s support. However, you’re right Peter—we should plan to face reality and capture the Ron Paul constituency on our own. Just look at the issues Ron has run on: audit the Fed, the gold standard, and a non-interventionist foreign policy. That’s our platform! Campaigning on the issues that matter most to those who believe in the Constitution will resonate with Ron Paul supporters. I think we might just pay a visit to Tampa during the Republican Party convention and talk with some of Ron Paul’s best organizers and grass roots leaders..."

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2012/05/exclusive-...

donvino

B.S.

"Ron has run on: audit the Fed, the gold standard, and a non-interventionist foreign policy. That’s our platform!"

B.S., the words "fed", "federal reserve", "gold", "monetary", and "intervention" don't appear anywhere on his issues page.

3 of his top 5 issues are "immigrants", "immigrants", and "immigrants".

He's like a Pat Buchanan but no where as good on foreign policy. And worse on economics and the free market. Just about every issue on that page calls for populist government interventionism. The howard phillips party has really taken a nose-dive here after they improved things 4 years ago with Chuck Baldwin who seemed to have a modicum of hate-the-state in him compared to this new guy.

Ron has actively supported

Ron has actively supported only 3 people for POTUS since 1976. One of them was Pat Buchanan in 1992. Ron was a campaign adviser to the campaign. Saying Virgil Goode is like Pat makes the case that he is exactly the kind of guy Ron would endorse.

Having said that, I do not believe Ron will be endorsing a third party candidate this year, however I would be willing to bet when all is said and done that he may be voting for Virgil Goode in the privacy of the booth.

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Goode

Supports balanced budget amendments and term limits and civil liberties.

Goode on CSPAN - Washington Journal 2012

http://www.c-span.org/mobile/video.aspx?id=10737430669&vid=3

Ron Paul and Virgil Goode 2007 FIRE Coalition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchuqH2gsdc

donvino

So Goode believes people are too stupid

to Vote our the big borrowers and spenders.

Voting for President and Voting or Senators is already an exercise in futility.

Might just as well make Representatives superfluous.

And get rid of the Electoral College.

Well I may be stupid, and we have gotten the government we deserve.

But I am not stupid enough to vote for this guy.

Free includes debt-free!

Goode supported...

...the Iraq War and the Patriot Act. I haven't seen, but has he regretted those votes? If not, there's no way I'd vote for him.

This is what Virgil Goode has done in the past...

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Goode's primary policy initiatives were anti-amnesty immigration reform, veterans' healthcare, and the enactment in 2004 of a $9.6 billion buyout for tobacco farmers. Goode has sponsored legislation to permit deployment of the U.S. Armed Forces to the U.S.-Mexico border. He voted in 2002 to authorize the Iraq War and in support of an $87 billion Iraq War supplemental spending bill.

Goode is a staunch advocate of a federal prohibition of online poker. In 2006, he cosponsored H.R. 4777, the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act.

Goode voted in 2007 against a resolution opposing the increase in troop numbers in Iraq, saying that he didn't want to "aid and assist the Islamic jihadists who want the green flag of the crescent and star to wave over the Capitol of the United States and over the White House of this country" and that "radical Muslims" wanted to control the world and put "In Muhammad We Trust" on American currency.

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Sounds pretty close to Ron Paul's positions to me (cough... BS... cough... cough)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Goode

I verified the wiki sources.

So fellow Paulites...

I urge you to think about those things when voting this post up in a snub to Johnson.

Consider who you are actually promoting - not just the person you wish to defame.

Goode and Johnson should be

Goode and Johnson should be runiing for congress or senate. Its a waste to run these message presidential campaign. They could actually make a difference winning a seat in the house or Senate.

Yeah good point....

who would ever want to have another option besides Obama or Romney in November? Let's face it we're in good hands with either of those two guys.

What are these 3rd Party fools doing running against the likes of the Establishment? They should submit like everyone else.

Johnson is our best hope in November if Ron isn't on the ticket. There's no way to argue otherwise.

*running lol

*running lol

Goode

Was he not it in RP's liberty caucus?

..yes he was.

http://www.usanewsfirst.com/2012/06/28/independent-american-...

donvino

This Ron Aldof...

has been trying to defame Johnson every chance he gets.

Are the motives of the - dishonest - Johnson detractors becoming clear?

http://www.dailypaul.com/246404/real-reason-for-anti-johnson...

He wasn't outright...

defaming Johnson in the comments I have went back and looked at. So, I take that point back. I did recognize his name, however.

Going against your own policies, Ron?

This Ron Aldof...

fellow. His intentions certainly aren't to keep the Daily Paul all about Paul.

Oh......

and YOURS are??? I've seen you trolling for Gary Johnson every chance you get.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

There were a couple of days....

that everything was mostly quiet on the Johnson front. During that time, I may have commented on one two threads regarding the man. I spent the last couple of days discussing economics and taxation.

However, I will certainly call a spade a spade when I see something hypocritical. As a matter of fact, there are probably more Anti-Johnson posts than Johnson posts.

No one complains about the Anti-Johnson posts. As a matter of fact, people vote them up. So, in my estimate, it's alright to talk about Johnson on the DP as long as you don't say anything positive. Sound about right?

If so, how is that promoting liberty?

Sounds about right to me

It doesn't promote Liberty at all.

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Here's a place where Aldof...

say's to halt discussion of other candidates until after the debate - http://www.dailypaul.com/247281#comment-2649973