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911 Judgement: NY Court awards $6 Billion. Iranian Bazaar Innocent.

I cannot fathom the depths of this $6 billion judgment handed down from a New York court this month. It is against Iran & its co-defendants. It seems too bizarre.

    "It is unclear whether the plaintiffs will actually receive any money."

    "... in the terror world, this is uncharted territory."

The New York court judgment against Iran & co-defendants is larger that the total worth of the world's largest bazaar... The Grand Bazaar in Tehran, Iran. Judgment to funded out of foreign Iranian bank accounts. No comment from co-defendant, Al Kida. The Great Bazaar continues without interruption.

Judge awards 9/11 families $6 billion

U.S. News. Published: Aug. 1, 2012

NEW YORK, Aug. 1 (UPI) -- A New York City judge awarded $6 billion to the families of Sept. 11, 2001, terror attack victims in their lawsuit against al-Qaida and parties in Iran.

U.S. Magistrate Frank Maas' Monday ruling was the first to impose civil penalties against those responsible for the 2001 terror plot that killed nearly 3,000 people, the New York Daily News reported. The $6 billion would be paid out to 110 survivors and the estates of 47 victims...

It is unclear whether the plaintiffs will actually receive any money.

Plaintiffs' lawyer Tom Mellon said his legal team may seek the seizure of Iranian state assets overseas. Last year, U.S. District Judge George Daniels found Iran, its Grand Ayatollah Ali Hosseini Khamenei and the regime's Lebanese client, Hezbollah, aided al-Qaida, Osama bin Laden and the Taliban in the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Mellon said international seizures are common in the business world, "but in the terror world, this is uncharted territory."
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Editorial comment offerred @ Gold Anti Trust Action Committee GATA.org . Submitted by cpowell on Fri, 2012-08-03

U.S. Treasury Department is "auditing" the gold vaulted at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, most of which is held in custody for other countries, but only to the extent of confirming the gold content of the bars kept there, and not touching on issues of ownership impairment, like swapping and leasing, the issues raised by GATA and others aggrieved by manipulation of the gold market.

Indeed, the "audit" seems intended to dispel "conspiracy theories" without actually having to disclose anything about the U.S. government's gold market intervention policy, the issue at the heart of GATA's freedom-of-information lawsuit against the Fed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, a lawsuit that was decided more or less in GATA's favor last year and revealed that the Fed has secret gold swap arrangements with foreign banks as well as many other gold-related records that are being kept secret: http://www.gata.org/node/9917



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When did Dick Cheny

move to Iran?

Iran had nothing to do with 9/11

The hijackers were mostly Saudi's.
The plot was developed in Pakistan.

The US Government ignored warnings through official diplomatic channels of imminent attack on US soil involving aircraft or airports and did absolutely nothing to tighten security.
These countries included Israel, Russia, Germany, Egypt and Jordan.
Putin issued a personal warning, when previous intelligence warnings were ignored.
http://www.historycommons.org/essay.jsp?article=essaytheytri...

Some of the Saudi pilots attended flight training school in Florida.
The flight instructor reported them as "suspicious" to the authorities because they did not appear to want to learn how to land.
His suspicions were also ignored.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500164_162-509113.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_a...

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Afganistan plotted with Al-Qaeda

to take down the twin towers so we bombed them into submission and installed a friendly government so we can be safe. Oops! No wait it was Iraq. It was Iraq, yea yea, it was Iraq. So we bombed them too and installed a friendly government. Ooops! No wait sorry we meant to say Iran, yea yea, Iran did it with them terrible Al-Qaeda folk. Oooops! We didn't mean to say terrible Al-Qaeda, we meant former allies who became terrible but now they are our allies again in our wars against them evil Libyans and Syrians. And Iranians. And whoever.

All the while spending trillions we don't have.

In order to make the Middle East safe for democracy, it became necessary to destroy:

  • A. Kuwait
  • B. Iraq
  • C. Afghanistan
  • D. Iran
  • E. Iraq again
  • F. Egypt
  • G. Libya
  • H. Pakistan
  • I. Yemen
  • J. Syria
  • K. Iran again
  • L. All of the above

Bonus points: In 100 words or less describe the perfect system to replace the ones destroyed in the previous test question.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

this is just bizzarre

and, let me guess, the us army will be the enforcer of this judgement?

My initial comment was going

My initial comment was going to ask when sovereign nations became the jurisdiction of U.S. courts. But, I took at look at the article you linked. The first paragraph states that the case was "against al-Qaida and parties in Iran."

The way I'm understanding this is that there are groups or individuals in Iran that were charged in the case, but not Iran the nation. The way you describe it is that Iran the nation was charged & ruled against with this judgment. Are you sure that you are portraying this correctly in your post?

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Article states, "...seizure of Iranian state assets overseas.

If you or I were writing abut these alleged incidents we would apply a much higher standard of proof. I used the words bazaar & bizarre as warning signs.
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Re-quoting the pertinent news article:
U.S. Magistrate Frank Maas' Monday ruling was the first to impose civil penalties against those responsible for the 2001 terror plot that killed nearly 3,000 people, the New York Daily News reported.

Plaintiffs' lawyer Tom Mellon said his legal team may seek the seizure of Iranian state assets overseas.

Last year, U.S. District Judge George Daniels found Iran, its Grand Ayatollah Ali Hosseini Khamenei and the regime's Lebanese client, Hezbollah, aided al-Qaida, Osama bin Laden and the Taliban in the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

"... in the terror world, this is uncharted territory."

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

In order to steal funds out

In order to steal funds out of Iranian accounts in foreign banks, they need an excuse.
its just theft,,, only this time they are using the deaths of 9/11 victims as a cover for theft.

It's actually quite disgraceful to the victims of 9/11 but i'm sure nobody in the govt actually cares about that.

There are few things that are certain.

Dear Mr Sigh,

We all have cousins. Some take care of those suffering. Other work for government...

A rare few do both.

Regards,

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

All 9/11 questions resolved!

"U.S. District Judge George Daniels found Iran, its Grand Ayatollah Ali Hosseini Khamenei and the regime's Lebanese client, Hezbollah, aided al-Qaida, Osama bin Laden and the Taliban in the Sept. 11 terror attacks."

Iran did 9/11. A judge said so, so it must be true.

Or not.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition by Larken Rose

Wow! Now they have a "stated"

Wow! Now they have a "stated" reason to go into Iran to steal their assets. Oh no we're not doing to it enrich the military industrial complex and our chosen corporations with Iran's personal assets. We're doing it for the 9/11 victims. Suuure!!

What a load of crap! If I'm not mistaken weren't most of the hijackers from Pakistan? Wasn't it a multinational organization known as "Al Queda" responsible and not the nation of Iran. Wasn't it us who originally funded the muslin radicals in Afghanistan that became Al Queda?

This one stinks big time.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Box-Cutters were used. So were Saudi Arabians.

TROUBLING LINKS: King Abdullah, Prince Naif, Osama bin Laden, Prince Bandar, and Prince Turki — Saudis all... as were 15 of the 19 hijackers... box-cutting that late Summer morning of 2001.

The box-cutters themselves, were also probably of foreign origin.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Mark you are one of the best

Mark you are one of the best minds we have in the liberty movement. I have no been browsing the Daily Paul much lately, but I do hope that we can converse much in the future. However, some of you more intellectual posts do go above my head a bit lol.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Thank you. Yet, isn't your compliment a mirror image?

I go by the name of Mark Twain for many reasons. Two fathoms of river depth allows safe passage for a riverboat pilot. My writing allows for various interpretations. I try to leave escape routes... with decoys running in all directions.

Imagine you are above the fray; I am below... Sounding...

At times when you look down, you see beautiful refections upon muddy waters. I see sure signs of trouble ahead in muddy waters... I seek to navigate around snags & sucks.

Per chance we meet, let it be early in the morning. That is when coffee is the best! I would be grateful to listen to your yarns whilst sipping coffee dockside.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul