Comparison of Ron Paul and Mahatma... And the money issue.
Submitted by RicheyG on Mon, 08/06/2012 - 00:34Dear Ron Paul .. I have nothing but respect for you. I credit you for my awakening back in 2007. Thank you.
That being said ... This post is not directed at RP but at some of the people on this site.
I'm going to do a little comparison today.
This post stemmed from a thread I read earlier saying something to the tune of 'donate more money'...
Sidenote: I am also very f'ing tired of 'reading between the lines' ... Please stop already with that bs.
The comparison I'm doing today is between Ron Paul and Mohandas Gandhi.
What 'reading between the lines' did the Indians have to do? The message was quite clear .. Get out of our country.
Today we have to listen to Rand Paul endorse Romney and somehow 'read between the lines' to derive some other non sensical meaning. We have to listen to Ron Paul say 'I haven't decided if I'll endorse Romney' and somehow 'rbtl' again. Lol. Just imagine for a second Gandhi or his comrades talking about endorsing English politicians who saw nothing but slaves in India.
some of the people here .. If not cointel pro .. Are just plain dumb or delusional.
Anyway, Back to the comparison.
How much money has the campaign for liberty made??? Quite a lot.
I look at Ron Paul .. He looks sharp, wears a nice suit, has tons of money from his supporters, I hear he travels in a nice jet to arrive at his destination and he has the opportunity to appear on television repeatedly to spread the message.
Now look at Gandhi .. Doesn't look sharp, his clothes are homemade and look nothing like something a white man would respect, has no warfare tools, HE HAD NO MONEY, he did not own a home and I doubt there were many tv shows in which he could appear in back then to articulate his point.
Why is it that people on this site continuously think that donating money is going to win this revolution? NO!
Only our actions .. Civil disobedience, our work ethic, etc. will win this revolution. Not money.
If there is one gleaming difference I can see between Gandhi and Paul - it is that Gandhi challenged the system in a way which I haven't seen Paul do .. Yet. Gandhi called on his supporters to actually physically disobey the 'authority' .. Paul hasn't called on his supporters to do anything. He just spreads the message.
That being said .. we who understand the message should begin taking some action type steps similar to disobedience, the salt march, etc. if we really care about the revolution.
I'm not blaming RP at all... he has done more for the cause of liberty in USA than anyone here. If he doesn't want to call on his troops (us) to do something significant .. That's fine. But we should know and understand from our core that 'money' won't do a damn thing for us. Especially when the other side has the printing press.
But wait .. RP said to donate money to get more delegates into office. Well ... RP also endorsed his son who now swings off of Romney's scrotum. So how do we know any of these delegates won't turn?
My point is this ... The answer to our tyrannical government lies in our actions - not how much money we donate.
Thanks for reading and flame on.
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Big difference between
Gandhi and Ron Paul is that Gandhi was trying to get a foreign nation to leave his country and Ron Paul is trying to educate his own people about what is wrong in their country and how to change it.
Do your best have no expectations
What is wrong in our country?
What is wrong in our country? Foreign interests have taken over by way of federal reserve.
How to change it? End the fed.
It appears to be similar to me.
The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.
- Calvin Coolidge
Authority
" If he doesn't want to call on his troops (us) to do something significant .. "
Authority either is or it isn't earned. Counterfeit authority either is or isn't stolen or violently enforced.
If I understand where Ron Paul earns his power to be an authority concerning the vital fight for Liberty against all enemies foreign and domestic, then my understanding is opposite the quote above, since Ron Paul continues to call upon the troops to question authority, to employ individual power in the necessary work required for each individual to do his or her part, and to know enough to avoid becoming that which we supposedly abhor before taking false steps.
This isn't India.
This is the place of people like Patrick Henry and Sitting Bull, or Daniel Shays and Tom Gillespie, or Josiah Warren and Martin Luther King.
We don't follow no stinking orders, and many of us are not pacifists.
If too many of us are misdirected, then perhaps Ron Paul isn't so stupid, perhaps he knows enough to plant the seed of liberty in accurate forms of currency, News Flashes, like, hey, you, did you know that what those people at The FED are doing is immoral?
Is the following true?
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
- Henry Ford
http://www.ontheissues.org/Archive/End_Fed_Budget_+_Economy.htm
"The Fed has one power that is unique to it alone: it enables the creation of money out of thin air. Sometimes it makes vast new amounts. Sometimes it makes lesser amounts. The money takes a variety of forms and enters the system in various ways. And the Fed does this through techniques such as open-market operations, changing reserve ratios, and manipulating interest rates, operations that all result in money creation.
"We are talking about an awesome power. It is the power to weave illusions that appear real as long as they last. That is the very core of the Fed's power.
"Of course not everyone is instinctively against this illusion-weaving power, and many even welcome it. Tragically, the innocent who understand little about the complexity of the monetary system suffer the most, while those who are in the know reap great profit whether the market is going up or down."
End the Fed, by Rep. Ron Paul, p. 2-3 Sep 16, 2009
Is the above statements true?
How will there be a peaceful revolution before tomorrow morning if people are too stupid to do the right thing when the only other option is to fall deeper into absolute despotism?
I don't think that pacifism will work here in America, such a message as pacifism will be seen as an open invitation to increase legal fraud, increase legal extortion, increase legal torture, and increase legal mass murder at the National level of the Criminal Government now enslaving all those who make an honest living in these Consolidated States.
Ron Paul is consistently right on target, not perfect, but who, in their right mind, can argue against the following 3 things to do on the Ron Paul laundry list?
1.
End the FED (by out competing the FED with much higher quality money)
2.
End the IRS (by calling off those dogs of war, stop paying every one of those "employees" and see if they can find honest work in one of the States)
3.
Bring the Troops Home (Stop obeying unlawful orders, unconstitutional orders, and orders that go against the Uniform Military Code of Justice, if for no other reason than to help save our sorry behinds from all those Criminals who have grown so powerful with their FED and their IRS and their Immoral use of The Military as that group of Legal Criminals won't like having their credit card cut in half by us)
Joe
We don't follow no stinking
We don't follow no stinking orders?? really?
If Ron Paul said tomorrow "this country is going down the tubes, it is up to us to save it. If you agree with me, then lets do a march tomorrow..." or "tomorrow if you agree with me, then do not pay your taxes going forward"...
you wouldn't follow that?
The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.
- Calvin Coolidge
Agreement
If I agree to something and you tell me that I am following orders, do you really think that I am going to agree with that dictate?
I'm not speaking for the sheeple.
I offered a list of the actual founding fathers who led by example, not the counterfeit "Federalists" with their Nation State and such, so - what were you saying?
Joe
There are couple different
There are couple different ways of giving orders .. Direct, indirect - how it's done is not the issue. The way I described it was indirect.
If Ron gave an order, then you as a Paul supporter would follow it only if you agree. . . Right ? After all we are not nazi soldiers who are just 'doing our job'.
The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.
- Calvin Coolidge
Crime is crime, why call it a job?
"After all we are not nazi soldiers who are just 'doing our job"
If enough people start using competitive legal money then The FED goes out of business.
I am forced to use Legal Fraud Money, it takes more than one person to choose to use a competitive legal money, so where is this demarcation line between my willful choice for Liberty and the forced compliance of fraud and extortion made legal?
I do not agree to pay Federal Taxes since I know it is legalized extortion.
How can legalized extortion be avoided if only one person, or two people, follow an agreement to act as one in support of Liberty, and do so effectively, such as a refusal to pay any more payments whereby those payments provide the means by which we suffer from legalized extortion and worse crimes?
We don't need to parade around in useless protests, all we have to do is agree to follow a logical set of reasonable actions such as those suggested by the Statesman Ron Paul as such:
1.
End The FED by competing and winning in Free Money Markets. If enough of us do so, we The People who still have guns, and still have the means to defend ourselves, and we The People who still can employ Trial by Jury if we merely understand how it works when it works, and we The People do not have to resort to deceit, to defeat deceit, and we don't have to resort to threats of aggressive violence to defeat threats of aggressive violence, and we do not have to resort to violence unless we are forced to defend ourselves when those Criminals at The FED get mad because we are using better money and not their fraudulent money.
I don't have to follow the leader to understand what leadership is in fact.
2.
Stop paying National Income Tax, it is immoral, it is unconstitutional, it is not Federal, it is Legal Extortion, and all we have to do is stop paying as one, what are the criminals going to do then?
3.
Bring the Troops home, or don't follow those unlawful, immoral, criminal, orders, at least, and come on home, please, we may need you when those criminals figure out that we aren't paying them anymore bonuses, bailouts, and we are cutting their credit card.
How is that not leadership itself, where step by step actions by people on a schedule can return this Country back into a semblance of a Democratic Federated Republic instead of a Despotic Nation State Legal Money Monopoly?
This is not India.
This is America.
We don't follow leaders, at least the Friends of Liberty do not, and there are plenty of examples all through our history if you care to find out, in case you may have misunderstood what Liberty is all about.
Don't follow anyone, make Liberty happen, there are ways to do it, it isn't rocket science.
Joe
Donating money IS an action.
Donating money IS an action. What should someone like me working 60-70 hours per week do? Those blessed to be more proactive should do so.
Anyway, saying Ron Paul wears nice suits is ridiculous, he has the WORST suits lol.
Ventura 2012
ok.. you may have a point about his suits.
but the fact still remains... he has more money than Gandhi ever did.
The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.
- Calvin Coolidge