-102 votes

Do you get it now? GOP will NEVER allow Ron Paul to have influence in the party. NEVER. We failed.

I was attacked over and over two years ago when I suggested the GOP leadership would never accept Ron Paul and his views. Paul's pro-peace message jeopardizes western assets all around the world that were taken and held by military force so western corporations could profit. His message also jeopardizes the fundamentalist Christians war against Islam. I begged Liberty members to forge relationships with individuals that really wanted peace and Liberty. I suggested reaching out to folks involved in the Occupy movement. A diverse group that embraced peace and was exploring the corruption in the financial sector. I was attacked over and over for the suggestion. There were several members here who supported the idea. They were also attacked. Now, we are left with nothing. The GOP threw Ron Paul out, ignored him, laughed at him. Millions of fundamentalist Christians swarmed Santorum in hopes he would continue the wars in the Middle East and shrink government (impossible to do, but the morons don't think). This movement is not functioning. The Liberty Movement is broken and has in many ways lost its principals. What a shame.




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Take a breath

Lift your head, take a breath, find your courage and get back out there. This r3volution is just beginning and we intend to bring it to the enemy and to the sheep alike until we reclaim the R3public. The greater the numbers, the lighter the burder, the swifter the attack. Giving up is just plain ol' crazy talk.

Rights belong to individuals, not groups; they derive from our nature and can neither be granted nor taken away by government. Ron Paul

God Bless Ron Paul for His Stance on Peace

For someone who has been here for ony 6 weeks your post is telling!

One of the main reasons to vote for Ron Paul is his posision on these stupid wars.

In 1967 during the 6 day war Israel attacked our ship the USS Liberty, killing 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 170 crew members. They severely damaged the ship. The ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula. Israel has yet to be held accountable. Iraq or Iran has NEVER attacked a US ship. So my question is .... why are we attacking these countries? For me it defies all logic.

No more money or troops to fight Israel's wars. They are the only ones in the region who have nuclear weapons and can fight their own wars!

You are the one who failed. Ron Paul supporters are young and will take over the Republican Party ........get over it!

The more they try to stop us, the HARDER we will FIGHT!!!

Help send a Ron Paul Delegate to Tampa. The town has raised the rates on everything, and because I'm on the Platform Cmte, I have to be there for almost TWO WEEKS! We are not going to waver in our support for Ron Paul, no matter what, so any help you can give with funding my trip will be appreciated! See my link/msg below.
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Your on dog food

wait till the convention we will make our voices heard.

OK, lets all take note of this.

"wait till the convention" I've waited years. Rand has rejected his father for Romney and Ron Paul will not be elected President. He may not even speak at the convention, BUT I'll "wait until the convention". Hey, when does this start to get ridiculous?

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GOV Pawn!

Down Vote!

Will happen with EVERY POST YOU MAKE until you Freaking LEAVE!

Enough already chicken Sh*t.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, You can thank me for my service by voting for Dr. Ron Paul, President 2012

We Didn't Fail, Not in Nevada

None of us have ever had any illusions that the brain dead, status quo republicans were going to ever change. They were never going to allow our influence. But that's the thing about politics. Power is never surrendered. It is taken.

So the only way to get rid of these miscreants was to overwhelm them with numbers and energy, and in Nevada, we have done so.

Essentially, we have replaced them with ourselves. Why the director of the Paul campaign in Nevada is now Vice Chair of the Clark County Republican Party.

It doesn't matter what the GOP does without us because they LOSE without us, and it's going to be pretty simple to explain to grassroots republicans why and how this happened.

So the republican party, whether it likes it or not, begins it's journey to being the advocate for liberty it was meant to be. How long before dissaffected democrats start to join us?

There are way more Americans who believe in liberty than believe in being pigs at the war trough. I bet some of them even work for Halliburton and Monsantio!

Oh, and the convention hasn't even started yet, never mind being over.

Victory is ours. The RNC just doesn't know it yet.

Ron Paul hasn't failed. He has laid the foundations for a movement that will reclaim America's heritage of republican, constitutional government with its attendant freedoms. The Ron Paul revolution will do FOR America the opposite of what the left did TO America beginning in the 1960s. Unfortunately, we will have to wait for the next election cycle for our power to be felt in the presidential primaries.

Regardless of who is president after November, without a Ron Paul miracle in Tampa, the Establishment still wins and the spending of the welfare/warfare state will continue. That may be slowed down with the next Congress depending on how many Paulite's and Tea Partier's are elected to the House and Senate. I'm not holding my breath. The Romney/Obama speeding train simile of 90MPH versus 100 MPH careening toward the collapsed bridge expresses what I see as being the case after November.

The real shift in Republican politics has already begun at the state level where the Ron Paul, and other sympathetic, Precinct Delegates will shape the new Republican Party. How sympathetic the Tea Party delegates will be remains to be seen. What are the possibilities that they might side with the neocons or be co-opted by the Establishment Republicans? Do we sit idly by or appeal to the common sense many of them have shown when opposing government power and spending.

It only takes one to KEEP AMERICANS FREE. Know your duties & rights as a juror. Stop the unconstitutional conviction of innocents in federal custody. The Fully Informed Jury CALL 1-800-TEL-JURY www.fija.org IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. It's that important.

and the personal attacks continue.

Rand hugs Romney. Ron Paul stays home. The Liberty Movement pretends it's "winning". Complete joke.

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Careful about no self-bumping.

There are enough people hammering away. Thanks for following the rules.

You promoted Federal legislation of food labeling!!!

You're the same troll!!!

OMG, now you're saying Ron Paul is a failure? Listen kiddo, you gotta go visit Iowa, Maine, LA, Alaska, Minnesota, TX, KY, NV, and any other place I may have left out. We made huge gains in all of these states!

Iowa--central committee, GOP State Chairman all Ron Paulers!
NV-- tons of Ron Paulers in the GOP
Maine-- tons of Ron Paulers in the GoP as well
LA-- ditto
Alaska-- State GOP Chairman victory!
Minnestoa-- tons of Ron Paulers in GOP; Kurt Bills gaining huge momentum for Senate election
TX-- Huge victory for a Ron Paul Senator--Ted Cruz
KY-- Thomas Massie, congressional candidate, will likely give Justin Amash good company : )

This election cycle has brought in tons of victories! Wake up! OR simply stop trolling

Add Virginia to the list as well.

Significant progress was made in Virginia this year, and it continues.

Magna est veritas, et prevalebit. Truth is most powerful, and will ultimately prevail.

Don't forget CO & MO

Big winning strides there along with american samoa. Doug Wead said if Romney didnt pay everyone off and kick the elected delegates out RP would have about 1000 delegates..... Heh, no one knows what he has until the votes begin and end. Pres Harding won the nom on the 10th round of voting on the convention floor.........NEVER GIVE UP! GET YOUR BUTTS TO TAMPA. TV WILL BE WATCHING AND THE DR IS EXPECTING US. START PACKING. HISTORY IS IN THE MAKING.

Ron Paul is da man.

That's awesome! Can you

That's awesome! Can you disclose an details? If not, I understand you might need to stay under the radar early on.

The huge change begins by winning the local GOP committee positions at the precinct level. Then you can get chairman positions at the township level and eventually at the county level! Win over majority of the counties and you win the state : )

or myself and other members here thought people should

know what's in their food. I guess you have decided that's not something the "Liberty" movement promotes. YOU are evidence of how wrong the Liberty movement has gone. It's a failure.

hmmm, going off topic?

of course I wanna know what's in my food--that's why I buy Organic...duh!

I don't need the federal govt to tell me what's in my food...heh,heh.

You're so confused. You learned nothing from that previous thread and you still continue to troll. That's why I believe you're a troll. There's no convincing you because you don't come here to seek knowledge--you only want to push your agenda which is to uproot and wipe out the rEVOLution.

Not on my watch!

He, he.

Monsanto is really scared of you and the Liberty Movement. Gee, the local governments have done a real good job of protecting us. If you think the Monsanto situation reflects how efficient local government is, you're silly. He, he.

still staying off topic?

okay...
Well your free-will is your best defense against GMO. Eat organic and vote with your money. The funny part is that you grovel to the govt begging for protection.

When you trade freedom & liberty for safety & security, you end up with neither. And for doing that, you deserve neither!
-Ben Franklin (paraphrased)

You just called all of Iowa's

You just called all of Iowa's hard work over the past 5 years a failure. That's a major insult to all that we accomplished in this state. I could list all the things I did myself that I did not even think I was capable of doing. I could list all of our impressive successes we made this year. I could tell you about our state's GOP platform and what a thing of beauty it is. I could tell you about how a neocon candidate for Congress called me personally on the phone and tell you what he said to try and get my liberty loving vote. I could retell the story of our state convention and the thrill that it was taking over the state GOP here.

Maybe you will read this like a true liberty lover and apologize for calling me and all the rest of us who worked so hard, failures. But maybe not.

It's a failure.

now figure out why and stop kneeling in front of a neo-con/evangelical GOP.

by your genius logic, we failed in 08 as well

so wth are we doing here in 12, tripling our numbers. we should all be pissing off away somewhere, like you are doing.

but on second thought, if all we got between those 4 years is your type, maybe we have.

The liberty movement is doing just great

How does your comment help the movement?

The only failure of the movement...

...is the effort made to be accepted by the Republican party. It's like continually trying to gain the acceptance of your drunk abusive father that despises the fact you were ever born.

GOP Delegates are popularly elected.

We elect the GOP.

If we get elected as precinct delegates then we don't have to be accepted.

Because we didn't get elected to the GOP we are left with being accepted by the ones that were.

All I can say is I will help Ron Paul win in November if the GOP makes him the nominee. Otherwise I don't vote for President.

Free includes debt-free!

Occupy accomplishment

One situation in which OWS claims to have achieved success is in the protests that they mounted against the conservative lobbying organization known as ALEC. Occupy mounted major protests against ALEC concerning proposed legislation that would affect voting rights as well as other issues. As a result of the protest actions, Coca Cola and Mc Donalds withdrew their support for ALEC. In response, ALEC announced that they no longer advocate social issue legislation and woul henceforth focus only on economic issues.

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Speak for your self

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You must be a true failure in your mama's eyes!

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, You can thank me for my service by voting for Dr. Ron Paul, President 2012

It's not their choice

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I disagree...

The US House and US Senate races that have been influenced and the general discussion is being turned our way.

We are turning around aircraft carriers here, not speed boats.

I think the changes we are making in the outer circles is what tells me we are winning. Not true die hard Ron Paul people but former establishment or previous unengadged people are leaning our way.

We have to double down and get as many US House and US Senate candidates in there to take up Ron Pauls banner.

awww, what a cute little 6

awww, what a cute little 6 week old you are

Never is a long time

I have read over the comments and all I can say is any neo-con establishment Republican who has worked to neutralize Ron Paul has got to be happy reading some of the comments. If we stick together we are on the verge of steamrollering the big government statists right out of control. If we split up and go a dozen ways we become a strange election year anomaly. If we weren't a threat to the establishment GOP they would not be fighting so hard nor breaking any and every rule and law to do it. They are scared to death. What? You thought they would play fair? If we are willing to be honest and look at the accomplishments, we are winning. The state GOPs we have taken, the public awareness of the FED, the world wide liberty movement, outing corruption and cronyism. This thing is just getting some momentum, don't quit now for Gods sake!
I think Granger is right, we stick together, take over more GOP locals and become the dominant force in the GOP. After Romneys defeat the GOP will be regrouping and forced to realign itself into the party it once claimed to be, we will just be there to guide it along.