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Ron paul has no conviction. The fact that he is sitting by as his campaign just got launched into irrelevancy is disgusting

So where is ron paul? Like really.

Now that he wont have a speaking role at the convention , what is the point of even going to tampa if he is not even going to be there? We dont have the numbers to even contest a win , he isnt on the ballot. I really really want to strangle some of his campaign staff. There were so many chances to win this and turn it around , each one of them ignored by the staff.

Now romney is backing away from auditing the fed.

By the time the convention roles around the GOP will have effectively eliminated any of the efforts ron paul has made including any and all of his platforms.

There will be no winning hearts and minds , or having a "presence" as he puts it. Its going to be a circus with paid retards flown in from around the country to circle jerk romney all day and all night.

I honestly would not be shocked at all if they locked out all ron paul delegates at the door. When that happens what are you guys going to do ? wait for the super secret plan that was put in place by the RP campaign to take place?

not likely.

This play nice shit has to end , we played nice the whole campaign and this just allowed the romney camp to cheat and sweep us under the rug.

Where is the conviction?

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SteveMT's picture

After you crawl back into your cave,...

close the door behind you.

It's not a lack of conviction

Dr Paul has stood by his convictions for his entire political career. His problem has more to do with organization and leadership. I do get your "super secret plan" reference though because it is a little ridiculous how many their are who actually believe he will pull a rabbit out of his hat.

The one thing I don't get is

why doesn't Dr. Paul and his campaign, give the facts about them winning the plurality in 5 states, so they are eligible to have his name placed into nominatin and give a 15 speech? All his supporters put in a lot of time, effort, and money into his campaign, and feel like we are being let down by them. Now, I'm not one of his supporters who thinks he is going to win the nomination from Romney but, the RNC should follow their own rules. Isn't this convention partially funded with $18 million dollars in taxpayer funds? If this is the way the RNC operates, with these fraud attempts against Dr. Paul delegates, the US taxpayer should start demanding that no more taxpayer funds be used for these. That goes for the DNC as well. Let them be funded by their registered members and donations.

Regardless, I'm still going to writing in Dr. Paul's name in November. I would like to thank him for opening my eyes to the political world back in 2008.

There are less than

three weeks until the RNC. Be patient. I think it will be worth your while. Somehting is in the wind.

Ron Paul's strategy has been

Ron Paul's strategy has been to let people come to him; let people find him. He doesn't like to go on the offense very much. He's not a very tough guy.

But that is part of the package. Perhaps someone who was a little more aggressive or a little tougher would hold less paleoconservative views...

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SteveMT's picture

"He's not a very tough guy." Come on Dr. NO

Ron Paul just takes on toughest, strongest people who will debate him and wins. Ron Paul is a very tough guy, IMO.

LOL troops who lose nerve the minute the general

rides out of sight. Washington regularly spent days on end riding across the country begging, borrowing, and commandeering supplies for his men, forming alliances, and deciding strategy. All while the armies kept fighting and winning skirmishes and keeping the war on.

Don't worry about what Ron Paul is doing. Just keep up your end of the fight. A convention is coming up and too many people don't even know he will be on the ballot.

For work to do please see: "Tunesia Did it: Ron Paul Revolution Facebook Strategy"


A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

The power of positive thinking

Rally the troops, the General is not far away. I believe a showdown is in the offing.

On another note, how many understand how costly a presidential nomination run.

RP is speaking in many states where a liberty minded candidate is running. He is still fighting. If he is still fighting,how can we do any less. Our future, our country, and our children are all at risk here. Keep spreading his message to everyone you meet and stay strong. This may be our last best chance.

The fault lies not in Ron Paul

But in this nation of wolves in sheep clothing, as well as the steep learning curve of the sheeple themselves.

As I said before, Ron Paul is a lighting rod showing how corrupt and determined those in power are to maintain the status quo.

His movement has never been about him. It's been about us.

Considering his own party repeatedly stabbed him in the back, while parroting bits stolen from his platform, the shenanigans going on in the States neutralizing with his delegates, and a mainstream media that would make Goebbels envious who ignored and belittled him, its pretty remarkable that one honest man going up against a gazillion Goliaths did as well as he did, don't you think?

He's only human, after all. Which is an apt compliment considering the soulless, amoral political terminators he's had to deal with in the last 30 years.

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

Cyril's picture

+1. BAM ! You nailed it

You nailed it. Heavily.

Ron Paul's political purpose, as history will likely record so, is about one thing:

preserving the foundations of his own country from complete destruction.

On behalf of the People too weak or numb to care about/pay attention to the true VERY high stakes, for Liberty and Justice in America not to vanish, precisely, that ONLY a TOUGH enough wisdom can ... RECOGNIZE as such.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

He's resting up...

for a third party run on the Constitution Party ticket.

~wobbles but doesn't fall down~


Figure it out.


Thanks Rick Stone

Can't believe my eyes when I read this post and I didn't know where to even start with refuting it. You summed it up in 3 letters! Awesome!

In all the years...

In all the years I have been here at the DailyPaul this really hit a nerve. I have always tried to be civil and respond like an adult. At times I have been verbally combative, sarcastic, and humorous, but this is the first time that I have used this type of language in 416 comments. I guess I am tired of the crap and I becoming a grumpy old man. I have become my father, God help me!


Another obvious TROLL

Ignore the trolls. No Liberty person would ever write anything like that. The Trolls don't understand RP'S PLANK, that is obvious.
F off Troll


Keepin' it real.

I don't think you're a troll

I actually voted this thread up

To those that say we don't know the details behinds the scenes.. If Ron Paul really was threatened then I guess he chose to live on his knees instead of .. Well... You know.

But who is to say that we wouldn't make the same choice if We were in his shoes ?

The revolution is ours to do with as we please.

The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.

- Calvin Coolidge

I don't think he is a troll either. I think he is trying to use

psychology to put a spark under a few people's rears.



"The only thing we die with is our own personal integrity!" LRH
Vail, CO
Freedom and Liberty for Eagle County, Colorado. www.flecc.org

Come on. The campaign could have done better.

But, the fact of the matter is we didn't have the numbers and there's no way we could have had the numbers to win it. I'm estimating it would have taken a SuperPac pouring about $50,000,000 into the primaries for Ron Paul in order for him to have won. Maybe Mitt Romney will throw us some crumbs and a bone or two after he and his cronies get through with the barbequed pork and fried chicken.

I find your post disgusting

To say that Ron Paul has no conviction is absurd. He has been a lone voice crying out in the wilderness since 1971, and has stuck to his principles and never wavered, and almost no one listened to him until recently. There is no one in politics who has more conviction than Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is not going to win the nomination. He's retiring from Congress. Your dream of rescuing this country by reforming the government is over. There is no one person or group of people on the face of the earth that can keep this ship afloat. The Titanic has hit the ice burg; the water is flowing in. Hope you know how to swim.

Guiltyspark, get a choke on it

I think you are talking way too violent. Now do whatever it takes for you to calm yourself down, way down! C'mon, don't scare the kiddies and the old ladies, and the weak RP2012 campaign management you threaten, or whoever else is in your crosshairs.

The media is feeding on violent stories, and we don't need that here.

Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.
C. S. Lewis

Another troll

vote down and move on folks,nothing here worth your time...


I love Ron Paul as if he were my dad but I must admit...

I too was bewildered by his sudden exit from the spotlight.

He was kicking butt at one college campus after another.

Everyone else had dropped out and it was Paul vs. Romney.

Why not an all out last stand with everything the campaign had left?

Tactics such as:

1. Challenging Romney to a one-on-one national debate.

2. Continuing speaking engagements at colleges.

3. National ads showing Dr. Paul running against Obama as though HE (Dr. Paul) was the presumptive nominee - not Romney.

4. National ads telling America that RON PAUL WAS STILL IN THE RACE.

5. Maybe some half hour T.V. addresses regarding Liberty principles(informercials "Ross Perot" Style).

The list of tactics is endless but an eleventh hour strategy was also necessary.

Now it's too late.

BUT - I don't call Dr. Paul non-commital because there's the chance that things were going on behind the scenes which we can't know or understand.

Remember, the RNC is as dirty and corrupt as they come and there were probably threats to Dr. Paul's family or himself.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

man...you know you're right. why bother? I mean I've only

SPENT THE LAST 8 YEARS OF MY LIFE ON THE RON PAUL AND THE EXPERIENCE TOUR! I can't just sit out the climatic last act. I want to see this through. Whatever happens, I'll know that I gave it my all and did what I could financially and giving of my time wise. After that, I seriously doubt that I will pay much attention to any particular PARTY again.

Well, I think the plan

is that "Trojan Horse" Rand is going to unleash all after he has fooled everyone into thinking he's a Neocon. Haven't you heard?

That would be nice

but I doubt it will happen


Yes, some people do feel this way...

who in the world is the deuch bucket that posted this?

please.....Ron Paul has done more than any one of the last 200 years in the fight for liberty....more than any of us could hope to achieve in a life time...if the poster wants to criticize....they best be ready to pick up the torch!

all of that hard work means

all of that hard work means jack shit if you give up in the 11th hour like a pussy

that is some awsome support

so let me sum this up (what you just said) "Ron Paul is a pussy"

with supporters like you...who needs enemies???