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History's Greatest Terrorist: Harry Truman (Was ANYTHING I learned in school, True?)

The motives for dropping nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were political, the targets civilian -- a textbook case of terrorism

Terrorism, despite continual abuse, is a word like any other. It has an actual definition: violence against a civilian target undertaken to send a political message. It is not merely a slur to be affixed willy-nilly to whomever, as geopolitical needs dictate.

On August 6th 1945 Washington dropped the world’s first atomic bomb on Hiroshima. One hundred fifty thousand civilians were incinerated or condemned to slow and terrible deaths by radiation exposure (as immortalized in the Japanese manga and animated film Barefoot Gen). On August 9th, the Truman Administration released a plutonium core atomic bomb over Nagasaki, killing an additional 75,000 people.

A justifying mythology was immediately crafted and remains firmly lodged in popular understanding -- at least in the U.S. The bombs were dropped, reluctantly, to save the lives of U.S. servicemen fighting Japan. Perhaps a half million (Truman’s claim) would have died before Japan would have unconditionally surrendered had the U.S. not deployed the bombs. The story has long been debunked, but with little popularization.

If fact, Japan was already prepared to surrender, having only a few (trivial next to hundreds of thousands of lives) conditions. The actual reasons the bomb was dropped, included, as Gar Alperovitz has long argued, intimidating Russia and to demonstrate U.S. power on the world stage. Any street gangster would recognize the dynamic. There was also a concern to forestall any further Soviet influence in Asia. Thus the motive was political and the target was civilian. It is a textbook case of terrorism. Perhaps the preeminent example.


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Ah, the process begins.

You are using your brain and asking questions.


Most everything of historical significance was done for money and power...period.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Investigation by Rep McFadden in the 1930s.

The Federal Reserve had loaned Japan and Germany the money to build their military empires.

I wonder if WWII was the repo man coming to call.

Who were Kelly's Heros? What happened to the Japanese gold stored in the Philippines and guarded by Marcos?

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I think I am going to be sick

I am having this awakening...this epiphany...as to where so many lies that have been told...for so many years...to so many people.

Lies that, quite frankly have always gone against my intuition and common sense. (For my entire life, the Hiroshima/Nagasaki thing has always bothered me to my core...no matter in however good light the propagandaists try to paint it).

I love my flag and the idea of America that the Framers intended...an idea that still holds true.

But people like Truman and Stimson...are enemies of that idea...yet they wrap themselves in it's stars and stripes like they are good patriots and freedom lovers or something...when nothing could be further from the truth.

If Hell exists, then men like this, are there...I can promise you that.

Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

I've found that learning about history...

is a lot like trying to get to the bottom of an elementary school fight - You have to seek out all angles of the story to find the truth. Otherwise, a person remains ignorantly biased towards what he/she thinks is valid knowledge that has been acquired over the course of life.

We have to be leaders. Followers take others' word for it. Leaders evaluate critically and make decisions based on big picture implications.

People must resist...

the effort of others to lead them blindly through life. Never just touch the surface of important issues; Dive-in, get to the bottom of it, make up your own mind.

Most importantly - Don't make decisions based on emotion or while in an emotional state.

Was ANYTHING I learned in school, True?

Yes. The earth is round. You can verify that by watching the earth's round shadow creep across the sky after sunset.

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Test and verify everything these days.


Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Evil deeds posing as a good are suspect.

St. Augustine Bishop of Hippo formulated Deus veritas (God=Truth). If there is anything to be found that is better than truth then that is God.

Some have said that one cannot see the face of God and live. As I discover these horrid truths it makes me wonder how to keep on living.

I could hide behind the lies but I will try to keep spreading the truth so that we might make better choices tomorrow.

Party On Tampa!

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in the early part of the 20th century . . .

authors, politicians and "intellectuals" worked hard to keep Americans "afraid" of the "yellow plague". After not allowing Asians to come to America with families in the 1800s when some Asians began to bring women and children to America key people used propaganda to make Americans wary--

does this sound familiar? It has happened this time with Middle-easterners/Muslims/Islam.

Asians weren't Christians; Asians were scarcely humans, these 'elite' and social engineers proclaimed.

And, as usual, Americans fell for it.

This is just another shameful episode in the history of the American empire--

This preparation made it much easier for American to be willing to wage war against the Japanese two decades later--

and then bomb civilians--


it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Not to mention Admiral Perry's attack on Japan

Not to mention Admiral Perry's attack on Japan in the 1850s.


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The very idea to even invade Japan

was ludicrous, but it gave an excuse (among many already discussed)to use the Bomb.

Think about it. Japan's navy was at the bottom of the ocean. It had lost all its outside resources, the bulk of its army was marooned in China. It was one huge POW camp.

So what was the rush to metaphorically go into the wounded bears cave?

Revenge & Political necessity.

Our war against Japan stopped being a war to halt aggression and became an holy crusade to avenge Pearl Harbor--As if 110,000 Japanese civilians immolated in B-29 low-level firebomb raids was not enough.

Add the jockeying for Global power with the USSR, we needed a demonstration of the Bomb to check Stalin. Who better than the Japanese, who were depicted in US propaganda with buck teeth, thick glasses, and often with the body of a snake? Why, they just weren't human, so who cared? They were expendable to prove our power!

And who cared that Operation Olympic would cause tens of thousands of US casualties (The half a million estimate is way to exaggerated)in a land invasion? How indifferent was it of our government to consider such a unnecessary invasion against an enemy that was already on its knees?

Well, we wanted Japan to be like the Philippines, as part of our own Pacific Co-prosperity sphere!

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

good points--


it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Volunteer Fighting Corps (Empire of Japan)

Volunteer Fighting Corps (Kokumin Giyū Sentōtai) were armed civil defense units planned in 1945 in the Empire of Japan as a last desperate measure to defend the Japanese home islands against the projected Allied invasion during Operation Downfall (Ketsugo Sakusen) in the final stages of World War II.

Some 28,000,000 men and women were considered "combat capable" by the end of June 1945, yet only about 2,000,000 of them were recruited when the war ended, and most of them did not experience combat due to Japan's surrender before the Allied invasion of the Japanese home islands.


E Company, 506th Infantry Regiment


"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."


There is no duration defined in the Oath

WWII Purple Heart Medals and V-J Day

Nearly 500,000 Purple Heart medals were manufactured in anticipation of the casualties resulting from the invasion of Japan. To the present date, all the American military casualties of the 60 years following the end of World War II, including the Korean and Vietnam Wars, have not exceeded that number. In 2003, there were still 120,000 of these Purple Heart medals in stock. There are so many in surplus that combat units in Iraq and Afghanistan are able to keep Purple Hearts on-hand for immediate award to soldiers wounded on the field.

State holiday in Rhode Island

Although September 2 is the designated V-J Day in the entire United States, the event is recognized as an official holiday only in the U.S. state of Rhode Island, where the holiday's official name is "Victory Day", and it is observed on the second Monday of August. There have been several attempts in the 1980s and 1990s to eliminate or rename the holiday on the grounds that it is discriminatory. While those all failed, the state legislature did pass a resolution in 1990 "stating that Victory Day is not a day to express satisfaction in the destruction and death caused by nuclear bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki." It is instead commemorative of those who fought, as Rhode Island sent a significantly above-average percentage of its population into the Pacific theater.

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."


There is no duration defined in the Oath

Not to discount your post in any way but - when have you known

the US government NOT to order everything in excess?

Its my impression that everything that goes through the requisition process automatically has two extra zeroes added in the QUANTITY column.

The order for purple hearts must have just gone through the requisition process a few extra times.

The US has a TERRIBLE record of terrorism when it can get away

with it.

I remember nuclear bomb drills in grade school. Being led into an area - a locker room near where the permanant supply of supplies was kept, and being told that those dirty Soviets wanted to kill all of us with their bombs. But of course the US is the only country to use a nuclear bomb (two of them) in a war.

Of all the countless wars on this planet since then, nobody else has gone nuclear.

We particularly like to use weapons against others when they can't use them back. ONLY the US had the bomb when we used it. And its fair to say that BECAUSE the USSR and later China acquired the bomb, they prevented us from ever using it again.

When the Soviet Union fell, there were a lot of people who said that we might have a century of peace. The US was the lone remaining Super Power and the US of course wasn't going to use its weapons for any evil purposes. We might never use them at all. In fact we better keep the instruction sheets! Because in 100 years when next we need to use them we might have forgotten HOW!

Well it seem that that has not become a big problem.

The US is the biggest bully country on the planet.

And now I am reading about HAARP and about how it is proven earthquake releasing technology. And about how Iran has just suffered two huge quakes killing thousands. Hmmmmm.

Einstien's Dirty Bomb & Zionism.

+1, thanks for sharing. Mahatama Ghandi said (& quoted in the article below) =
"Truth needs to be repeated as long as there are men who do not believe it."

"Secret History of the Atomic Bomb" -

pls read very informative article by Eustace Mullins, worth storing, and sharing again. the link was posted below on this page yesterday =
Submitted by c2c on Sat, 08/11/2012 - 00:43.

Nagasaki was a Christian community that had survived perscution

for centuries. They survived for centuries, with standing the Japanese attempts to route it out, at times worshiping in secret, keeping their faith. That Christian community that was established since 1500's was obliterated a Christian nation.
Same as today, American govt now supporting uprisings of Islamic fundalmentalism domino-ing through the middle east...Libya, Eygpt,..Syria all along with the cheer leading of salivating zionists.

When Gaddaffi fell, he had 3.2 Billion or so invested in Goldman Sachs. Since he is no more, I guess they dont have to return it to anyone now.
But hey who is asking. Not MSM. Good job obama. You are the perfect boy of the bankers.
Love how he wants to Tax the rich. except his masters.

thank you for pointing that out--

about Nagasaki--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

(Was ANYTHING I learned in school, True?)

Probably not, especially when it comes to WWII.

You were probably indoctrinated to believe that Hitler started WWII too.

WW2 - Who Was Responsible Really


I will not get in to the holocaust here but from what I have read and seen online, I have my doubts about that too.

“I have joined your revolution and I’m proud to be part of what you want to do.” - Ron Paul


"I will not get in to the holocaust here but from what I have read and seen online, I have my doubts about that too."

After doing my own research, I have reached the conclusion that there was no mass extermination program. We have very good documentation that most inmates died from Typhus, and towards the end of the war, starvation, as Allied bombings cut off supply lines. After the war, Nazi confessions were extracted under torture, photos were doctored, and camps were modified to better fit the "holocaust" narrative. In some countries, you can even go to prison just for questioning how many died. Why do that if there is nothing to hide? I'll tell you. Because under scrutiny, the holohoax story completely falls apart.

no mass extermination program???

zyklon gas, carbon monoxide, typhus, starvation, bomb or bullets? Jew were arrested and their property looted and they were sent to prison camps. Many died on the way.

You remind me of the KBG Colonel when asked during glasnost about the 40,000,000 that were killed by the Soviet State.

"The number sounds about right but it is foolish to think that they were killed, people die everywhere."

The Dentist of Auschwitz tells a compelling story of that time.

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What Freedoms Do We Really Have?

And yet we listen to witnesses from those Nazi death camps telling us about the horrors of the mass murders and gas chambers. And then we hear of other witnesses who have clearly lied (why is another story). Only today, coincidentally I was reading about Trebleninka where one of the victims was forced to kill his own people - and finding his sisters' clothing amongst the debris of the murdered. Then I see he is today an Isreali - and I wonder if his story was true, if he was even where he said he was; whether only 70 people of the hundreds of thousands, ever escaped as he said. I want to believe whatever is the truth - but sometimes the truth and the evidence is so damn well hidden by Governments and the winners of wars.

In some countries of Europe; Germany, Austria, France; people are chucked in prison for merely voicing disbelief at the official holocaust stories. In Britain voicing such a hoax possibility is close to being a "hate" crime and a reason for personal abuse, job loss and other discriminations. Imagine being jailed for disagreeing with the 9/11 official version - it's not so far off! The fear of people to give argument against the official Holocaust version is all over Europe. That immediately makes me very suspicious that the whole holocaust story, gas chambers and mass killings, may be grotesquely distorted. Historian David Irving was similarly unconvinced - and he backed that scepticism up with meticulous evidence gathering - and was finally jailed in Austria for his "illegal" beliefs.

Millions died in the Nazi camps (and outside!) of course and, I don't suppose now it matters whether it was of typhus or starvation or gas chambers and execution bullets, all were obscene deaths for innocents. What matters is that people must now be free to speak, free to listen and free to believe as they will. I had thought that the last world war granted us these freedoms. But now I seriously wonder what freedoms we have left and what are just hollow illusions.

Like everything else emanating from

"government", school actually does the OPPOSITE of what it is supposed to do. It's modern incarnation, starting at about the turn of the last century, has focused on training and controlling thought. The bells, gold stars, same age groupings and peer pressure social behavior moldings were designed by animal trainers. Gradually, not only were outright lies taught, but John Dewey openly proclaimed the "need" for an "uneducated class" that would not balk at spending their lives "serving society". He carried this out by thwarting what he called the national "reading fetish" by instituting "look-say" reading teaching methods and throwing out proven phonics based teaching. Math has also been disrupted by continual "new math" programs that confuse rather than teach. He also saw the need for conversion of the mostly Christian population as children in schools to a religious "humanism" that was not burdened with dictates against theft, killing, coveting, etc. For more understanding of the kidjail gulag, read John Taylor Gatto or Samuel Blumenfeld. You will see why the US is in the mess it is. Government schooling is one of the greatest crimes against humanity that has ever been committed, but most people are victims of it and do not understand what has really been done to them and how they have assisted in dumbing down and disrupting their own children and families.

Read it and weep.



Although Truman liked to take full credit for the decision to drop the atomic bomb on Japan, in fact, he was advised by a prestigious group, The National Defense Research Committee, two of whom were George L. Harrison, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and Dr. James B. Conant, president of Harvard.


In May of 1945, the architects of postwar strategy, or, as they liked to call themselves, the "Masters of the Universe", gathered in San Francisco at the plush Palace Hotel to write the Charter for the United Nations. Several of the principals retired for a private meeting in the exclusive Garden Room.

The Japanese were already privately suing for peace, which presented a grave crisis. The atomic bomb would not be ready for several more months. "We have already lost Germany," Secretary Stettinius said. "If Japan bows out, we will not have a live population on which to test the bomb."

"But, Mr. Secretary," said Alger Hiss, "no one can ignore the terrible power of this weapon." "Nevertheless," said Stettinius, "our entire postwar program depends on terrifying the world with the atomic bomb." "To accomplish that goal," said John Foster Dulles, "you will need a very good tally. I should say a million." "Yes," replied Stettinius, "we are hoping for a million tally in Japan. But if they surrender, we won't have anything." "Then you have to keep them in the war until the bomb is ready," said John Foster Dulles. "That is no problem. Unconditional surrender." "They won't agree to that," said Stettinius. "They are sworn to protect the Emperor." "Exactly," said John Foster Dulles. "Keep Japan in the war another three months, and we can use the bomb on their cities; we will end this war with the naked fear of all the peoples of the world, who will then bow to our will."

Edward Stettinius Jr. was the son of a J.P. Morgan partner who had been the world's largest munitions dealer in the First World War. He had been named by J.P. Morgan to oversee all purchases of munitions by both France and England in the United States throughout the war. John Foster Dulles was also an accomplished warmonger. In 1933, he and his brother Allen had rushed to Cologne to meet with Adolf Hitler and guaranteed him the funds to maintain the Nazi regime. The Dulles brothers were representing their clients, Kuhn Loeb Co., and the Rothschilds. Alger Hiss was the golden prince of the communist elite in the United States.

This secret meeting in the Garden Room was actually the first military strategy session of the United Nations, because it was dedicated to its mission of exploding the world's first atomic weapon on a living population. It also forecast the entire strategy of the Cold War, which lasted forty-three years, cost American taxpayers five trillion dollars, and accomplished exactly nothing, as it was intended to do. Thus we see that the New World Order has based its entire strategy on the agony of the hundreds of thousands of civilians burned alive at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, including many thousands of children sitting in their schoolrooms. These leaders had learned from their master, Josef Stalin, that no one can rule without mass terrorism, which in turn required mass murder. As Senator Vandenberg, leader of the Republican loyal opposition, was to say (as quoted in American Heritage magazine, August 1977), "We have got to scare the hell out of 'em."


$350 trillion was wasted on cold war.

$5 trilion is about $350 trillion 2012 dollars.

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I lived in Japan--

four decades ago when I was a college graduate and single (and non-military), and I have had a different perspective on WWII since. I was never able to accept the propaganda my parents (father was a WWII veteran) accepted about WWII and Japan.

My father was open minded, so I was allowed to think for myself about it; I wasn't raised with the typical attitudes, but--

I know how my parents' generation was brainwashed; my parents talked about it a lot, not always wittingly--

Many of these truths were not exposed until many people no longer cared. I see you quote Mullins.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Nuclear Horror -

+1, Thanks for posting, - as per the article above we find that this nuclear horror has strong links with the banksters. few of them are named, Rothschilde, JP Morgan, etc. Records that are exposed inform us who are the biggest terrorists, and they do it deliberately = sadists.
re last line above, Demons boast: "We have got to scare the hell out of 'em."

something positive Truman did

He was opposed to the Iranian coup d'etat, saying that the CIA should not be in the business of overthrowing governments. In 1953 Eisenhower had the CIA proceed with it, which resulted in the shah being perched back on his throne, which eventually led to the Iranian revolution, which in turn
led to the creation of the Taliban by the U.S.