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Ron Paul Will Not Seek To Be Nominated From The Floor, Because The DELEGATES Seek To Nominate Ron Paul From The Floor.

Jesse Benton's comment, "Dr. Paul will not seek to be nominated from the floor" has stirred a lot confusion among the DPers.

This is understandable, but at the same time EVERYBODY has to remember that the only important thing is to understand that it is the DELEGATES that seek to nominate Ron Paul from the floor.

It is not the job of Ron Paul, but of the delegates. Everything else is distraction. PERIOD!

This is well understood by the highest Up-Voted comments on this thread "Benton: ‘Dr. Paul will not seek to be nominated from the floor.’":

By youjustgotpauled +45 votes: http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2665567

By Independent_Thought +42 votes: http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2665257

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I love Ron Paul and what he stands for

but with that said let me also say this. I do not like the direction the campaign is taking. In other words lets all play nice and see if the Republican Party will throw us a few crumbs. Well I do not like crumbs. I want the whole sandwich and that is what I started out to get and that is what I am going to fight for right down to the end. I may come out of Tampa with my tail tucked between my legs but there is one thing for sure, I will come out of there knowing I put up a good fight.
Please excuse my language here but the Republican Party would not piss up our rear ends if our guts were on fire. The Ron Paul campaign best realize this. The Ron Paul rally will be in the Sun Dome starting at 12 noon. What does he GA Republican Party do? They schedule a mandatory meeting at 11:00 am so we can not catch the bus. We were to leave the Ron Paul rally, board buses and go to Tropicana Field for the Delegate get together. There were to be thousands lining the streets to cheer the Ron Paul buses on as we got close to Tropicana Field. Guess what we applied to the RNC for bus passes. They never even bothered to get back to us, so now that is down the drain. If any one and I mean any one thinks the Republican Party will play fair then they are smoking wacky weed. If you think they will keep any promises made then you are void of a brain. I am hoping beyond hope that I run into Jesse Benton down there. He is not going to like the major a** chewing he will receive from me.

Paul knows the first rule of conventions

Ron Paul is extremely knowledgeable about Politics. He knows the first rule about a Convention is to know the count. He knows he does not have the numbers needed to control the convention.

When you don't have the numbers, you will be playing by the other sides rules. Paul is urging us to not make waves, because he knows doing so will not help us.

We need to focus on what we can win at the RNC.

Possibilities here include Platform Changes and Appointments.

1861 - 1869. "Battle of Tampa" Gunboat dipolmacy.


During the Civil War, the state of Florida was considered part of the Confederacy. In 1861, Union forces established a blockade near Tampa Bay in order to keep the confederates from making contact and trading with other nations such as Cuba. The Union Army believed that if the Confederacy was unable to receive supplies they would eventually be forced to surrender. Despite Union efforts many blockade runners were able to evade the Union Army and trade with Cuba in order to gain supplies. In response to the blockade runners, Union forces attacked the fort in the 1862 Battle of Tampa. This small battle consisted of a Union gunboat firing upon Tampa in hopes of a confederate surrender, yet the Union army quickly ceased fire without the surrender it had sought. In 1863, the Battle of Fort Brooke took place in which two more Union gunboats fired upon the fort as part of a diversion, so that a group of soldiers could find and destroy Confederate vessels and blockade runners. Upon realizing the plan, a group of confederates found and attacked the Union soldiers resulting in casualties. See "The Robles Family" at Tampapix

On May 6, 1864, both Fort Brooke and Tampa were captured by Union Forces. At the end of the Civil War and the beginning of Reconstruction, Fort Brooke was occupied by federal troops until 1869.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

1862. "The Final Battle of Tampa" Petition to be a park forever!

The Final Battle For Fort Brooke, Tampa Florida Drawings, Pictographs, Platte Map, Formal Petition & Response

The final battle for Fort Brooke lasted over 20 years, but it was not fought with cannon, gun nor sword. It was fought with mightier weapons -- the pen, the word, capital and the law.

In the Special Collections department of the University of South Florida Library are two old documents -- petitions -- that inadequately tell a fascinating story; the long dispute over the title to the Fort Brooke Military Reservation land after it was decommissioned by the military in 1882.

Many Tampans desired that this land should not be developed for commerce or industry, but instead set aside as a public park for its great natural beauty. It would be a great opportunity for the town to have such a scenic landscape adjacent to downtown.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

I am a delegate

to the National Convention. I have had to lay low through the Mass Prescient meeting,County Convention and District and State Conventions. If I had opened my mouth I would not be a delegate. Not once did I ever mention Ron Paul's name but by doing so I managed to sneak in. It is bad when you have to do this in order to be elected as a delegate in the Republican Party. But when I hit Tampa the gloves will come off and a lot of delegates from my state are going to get a jaw dropper. I think people are going to be in for one big surprise at the National Convention. Will we win? Probably not but we are going to give it everything we have down there. And who knows, we might just be able to turn this thing around at the end. One thing for sure and that is, we will make the Republican Party bust a stitch.

GO FOR IT, but remember....

...however it turns out in Tampa - PLEASE DO NOT QUIT.

Bring it back home and stay engaged in the party and the fight. We are going to win. But when people quit out of disgust, the bad guys win.


The founding fathers didn't call it "ETERNAL" vigilance for nothing.

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Go get 'em!

And remember that there will be millions of us out there cheering you on!


I am a delegate. I will be in Tampa. My voice will be heard. Hammer down Patriots! Now is the time! WHOOT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFKZqbGRuxs


I have posted elsewhere on this forum a piece entitled "GOP delegates face moral dilemma." It is intended as something that could be printed and handed to Romney or undecided delegates. Please take a look, download and edit, print, cut up, use in your own, but please help these sentiments to be expressed to Romney delegates. Thanks


"To the morally inverted, war appears as a quick, clear path to the top." -- Preston Parker

Why hasn't anyone put a sock in this guys mouth yet?

WE...the people...that DO support Ron Paul would be much better off if Benton just kept his trap shut from here on out.
Just go away Jesse. Far-far away.
This is not the intention (Benton's) presented in the latest email I got from John Tate. Which went something like this...

Dear Steve,

The credentials fight you and I were expecting to have in Tampa has already started.

The Committee on Contests recently issued a ruling on the establishment’s challenge to Ron Paul’s delegates and alternates who were duly elected in Maine, and on our challenges to the outright cheating that occurred in Louisiana, Massachusetts, and Oregon (alternates only).

Despite Ron Paul’s supporters being so clearly in the right in these four states, the establishment is so far refusing to rule fairly and seat our duly elected delegates and/or alternates.

Here’s a brief summary of the bogus challenge made by the GOP establishment against us in Maine, as well as our challenges to t! he cheating that occurred elsewhere:

*** In Maine, where Ron Paul supporters held a clear majority at the State Convention, the establishment is attempting to unseat the state’s duly elected delegates and alternates – acting like sore losers in the process. The challenge to our delegates in Maine is so bogus that Republican Governor Paul LePage – who is one of the few delegates not being challenged by the establishment – has declared he will not attend the Republican National Convention unless Ron Paul's delegates and alternates who were duly elected are seated;

*** In Louisiana, establishment “big wigs” used threats, intimidation, and force – literally smashing the bones of one gentleman – to shut out Ron Paul supporters who had a clear majority at the State Convention;

*** In Oregon, the State Chairman blatantly ignored the votes of the Convention, taking it upon himself to replace the duly elected al! ternate delegates with an “appointed” slate chocked-full of establishment cronies;

*** In Mitt Romney’s home state of Massachusetts, corrupt Party officials changed the rules after the game was over – kicking out Ron Paul’s duly elected delegates and alternates and replacing them with their hand-picked cronies.

As you can see, the Old Guard establishment doesn’t care about cheating, lying, abuse of process, and high-handedness in our Party.

All they seem to care about is maintaining their iron grip over the Republican Party.

But Ron Paul’s number-one goal for the RNC is making sure his delegates and alternates who deserve to be seated in Tampa are credentialed.

So if the establishment wants a fight in Tampa, rest assured we’re going to give them one.

Currently, our campaign lawyers and staff are furiously working to analyze and craft the appropriate response to the Committee’s rulings, and we’ll be sure to ke! ep you informed as we move forward in the process.

And believe me, we will not sit idly by and watch the establishment run roughshod over Ron Paul’s supporters who were illegally railroaded by the GOP.

We will stand up and fight for all of Ron Paul’s delegates and/or alternates in these four states – and we will not back down.

Of course, one would think the Romney campaign would want these conflicts resolved so they didn’t become major issues at the Convention.

But so far they’ve sat idly by on the sidelines.

Hopefully they’ll change their do-nothing approach once they realize we’re serious about going all-out to win these credentials battles.

And remember, nearly 90 major media outlets have already reserved a spot at our “We are the Future Rally.”

So if the GOP goes through with these bogus challenges, they won’t be able to hide behind their iron curtain. They will be exposed by the press.

The good news is, the Committee on Contests’ ruling is not the final word in this fight.

The battle will be decided by the Credentials Committee in Tampa – where we are very organized and prepared to take action.

As the battle rages on over the next two weeks, I’ll be sure to keep you updated on our progress and any new developments that occur along the way.

I hope to see you in Tampa.

For Liberty,

John Tate
Campaign Manager

P.S. Please keep in mind that we are helping our delegates who are suffering from financial hardship during these tough economic times attend the convention.

If you’d like to help your fellow Ron Paul delegates get to Tampa for the Republican National Convention, please click HERE to chip in with a generous contribution. https://secure.ronpaul2012.com/?sr=0813


Dear John Tate, your letter cries out to our Republic!

Dear John Tate

cc: Tumbleweed Steve

Regarding: ♫ From the Halls of Maine, Louisiana, Oregon, to the shores of Massachusetts ♫

Battle Hymn of our Constitutional Republic. Let us sing!

Your letter is impressive! Persuasive! Well seasoned. Thank you.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

It would be nice were it true.

However, the fact is they are actually doing nothing and have no plans to do anything.

Do you know of one case the campaign has helped with before the Committee on Contests?

No you don't. Because they are not.

Do you even know what the Committee on Contests is?

No you don't. You believe emails and don't know the rules nor follow up to check facts.

I complimented what was stated in John Tate's letter.

Thank you for your post. I value skepticism. Truth has value, but not enough that I go hankering after it.

Please be kind. I oft check multiple sources before I post. Much of what I post is difficult to believe.

    The mere knowledge of a fact is pale; but when you come to realize your fact, it takes on color. It is all the difference between hearing of a man being stabbed to the heart, and seeing it done." - A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court - Mark Twain

John Tate, Ron Paul Campaign Manager posted an encouraging letter from the official campaign. Here is my copy of the same:

    Dear Mark,

    The credentials fight you and I were expecting to have in Tampa has already started.

    The Committee on Contests recently issued a ruling on the establishment’s challenge to Ron Paul’s delegates and alternates who were duly elected in Maine, and on our challenges to the outright cheating that occurred in Louisiana, Massachusetts, and Oregon (alternates only).

    Despite Ron Paul’s supporters being so clearly in the right in these four states, the establishment is so far refusing to rule fairly and seat our duly elected delegates and/or alternates....

    John Tate John Tate
    Campaign Manager

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

RP supporters: check your email..

more clarification on Tampa

I'm only intolerant of people

I'm only intolerant of people who don't have their own opinion. Who just spout off things they've heard on TV or caught from headlines on Yahoo! Makes me sick. If every citizen was as informed of their presidential candidate as we Ron Paul supporters are, perhaps there'd be no need for rEVOLution. Perhaps we'd never gotten screwed so hard and so bad in the first place...

We don't need word games from Jesse Benton and the campaign.

A little ENCOURAGEMENT might be a better idea.

We've spent our time, effort and money trying to get Dr. Paul a chance at the nomination and then this downer statement by Benson comes along.

It' a poke in the eye of all the hard-working Paul delegates and we who helped get them there.

I dropped everything I was doing to become a delegate to the Washington State Republican Convention and help the Paul supporters who wanted to be national delegates.

Then the campaign folds up like a cheap suit.

I don't get it.

This is at least the second time they have made us wonder what the F is going on.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Forget Jesse Benton.

We know what we have to do. This changes nothing. It might even be a good thing. Let people think he has no interest in getting the nomination while the delegates quietly do what they have to do. The more attention we get, the more the establishment is going to fight back. I'm not quite sure it was necessary for Benton to come out and say anything, but maybe the campaign somehow knew that they needed to come out with another statement that would make everyone think, "Oh, nothing to see here, everybody!" Just like when RP said he was no longer campaigning.

Who cares what Jessy Benton

says. I have said it before. I admire Ron Paul but Ron Paul nor Jesse Benton owns me. When I get to Tampa I make the call not Jesse Benton. As far as I am concerned Jesse Benton does not even exist.

We don;t need word games ...

Jesse Bent-Him is the fall guy. Since Ron Paul doesn't come out and correct our supposed misapprehensions, they don;t seem to be misapprehensions. This can be summed up in two words: LET DOWN!

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If America is Still The Beacon of

Hope, Liberty and Freedom. American's will nominate Ron Paul at TAMPA !!! Ron Paul President 2012.

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My fellow commenters.
Ron Paul's record is impeccable. His actions speak of integrity, wisdom and individual justice. What we need is what the man intends to bring. That is our individual liberties which allow us to grow; to learn; and to prosper. The establishment intends to make you believe that it will take care of you, and take care of you it will. This is the same establishment that would like to see you and ninety five percent of the rest of us dead. If you cannot recognize what all of this means when it is before your eyes then please go back to sleep. We of the Daily Paul have a lot of ground work to do. It doesn't matter what your perception is of Ron Paul fans. What matters is that we are fighting for the truth and some accountability from the people we pay to protect our freedoms. Those are the people of the establishment who will, believe it or not, continue to lie and to spit in our faces. We are the sheeple to them and those of us taking action against them would do well to have your company. When you see the truth of our predicament you will have no further options but to convert. Ron Paul is and has told the truth. The establishment clowns only serve to pander and deceive us. These are facts. Peace!

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Excellent post!

Thanks for sharing.

Let the Battle of Tampa...begin!

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Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Jesse Benton is a paid Romney mole.

Just don't believe what he says and from this article I think it says a lot. It sounds to me he wants to destroy the campaign.


man, I got -4 votes? I must

man, I got -4 votes? I must be on to something because my source tells me he got fired. He hurts the campaign more than helps the campaign. I have read so many comments on different sites that people just don't trust Jesse.

u dont get it ?

re read the forum...


I agree 100% - Jesse Benton is a paid Romney mole.

Jesse Benton is a traitor to Ron Paul and to all the Ron Paul supporters.
I sent Ron Paul a message, asking him to fire Jesse Benton immediately if he truly cares about all the people supporting him (Ron Paul)!

I hear he got fired and I

I hear he got fired and I hope this is true.

Who told you Benston got fired?

I would love to believe you, but...

I read it somewhere and I

I read it somewhere and I hope it is true myself. I hope Adam Kokesh has info on this.