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Oklahoma Delegate Battle Due To OK Gop Disregarding The Rules

Oklahoma delegates filed a challenge to the RNC Committee on Contests over the election of at-large delegates and at-large alternates at the State Convention. It was put forward by 13 people who were credentialed delegates to the Oklahoma State Convention. Some of these had already been elected National Delegates and Alternates at Congressional District Conventions.

The notice of grounds for the challenge was filed on July 26th, 2012. The Statement of Position from the contestants was filed on August 1st, 2012. We received the State of Position from the Respondent’s on August 6th, 2012. We have a preliminary decision from the Committee on Contests upholding the State GOP. We are appealing.

We are challenging over the lack of a secret ballot vote (also known as roll call vote) on the election of at-large delegates & at-large alternates, which is required by Oklahoma Republican State Party Rules 18(d).

We are asking for the improperly elected at-large delegates and at-large alternates to be vacated. There are provisions within the National Republican Party rules to fill those positions.

The Oklahoma Republican Party responded to the delegates challenging the election of at-large delegates & at-large alternates claiming that a roll call vote was unnecessary because one roll call vote was taken on the rules amendment and it failed. Therefore, the OK GOP claims a second roll call vote would have been worthless.

The Oklahoma Republican Party states,

“Contestants’ Statement should be rejected because the delegates and alternates were chosen in a manner permissible under the rules of the Oklahoma Republican Party”

But, under Oklahoma State Party Rule 18(d) it clearly defines how at-large delegates & at-large alternates are to be elected. Rule 18(d) reads,

“Nominations at State Convention: At the State Convention convened for the purpose of electing Delegates-at-Large and Alternates-at-Large to the Republican National Convention, qualified nominations of the State Executive Committee shall be placed before the convention by the State Chairman, and all other qualified nominations shall be received by the chairman of the State Convention in accordance with the rules adopted by such convention. Election of the Delegates-at-Large and Alternates-at Large shall be by roll call vote.”

There is nothing in the Oklahoma Republican Party rules which allows for delegates to be elected in any other manner. Besides, there are many reasons that a secret ballot (roll call) vote is necessary. One of the most obvious needs for a secret ballot vote is due to the fact that delegate votes are proportionate according to each county. One county may have 5 delegates present, with a total of 10 votes from that county. So, each delegate would be worth 2 votes. Or, another county may have 10 votes, with 20 delegates present. So, each delegate would be worth ½ a vote. This was well seen in the roll call vote which was conducted for national committeeman, where the winner only won by 1.8%.

The RNC Committee on Contests has decided the following,

“The Committee finds that the Contestants did not meet their burden of proof regarding the certification of Oklahoma’s National Convention delegation. The committee determined that the voice vote and the standing vote on the delegate slate constituted a ballot to elect the delegates to the National Convention…”

The delegates who have brought this Challenge to the RNC do not agree with the Committee’s findings and will be responding further. The rules were violated, so we are holding the Republican Party accountable to their own rules.

The delegates bringing this challenge are acting on their own, with no financial or advisory assistance from any party or campaign. We all want to see the rules upheld. We are, however, strong supporters of Ron Paul, the true conservative in the race.

You can view the website for the delegates filing this challenge at www.okliberty.com. All supporting documents can be viewed directly at http://www.okliberty.com/documents. The documents you can view are the challenge initially submitted, the response from the OK GOP and then finally the RNC’s Committee on Contest initial response.

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Ben Swann's Reality Check...

will be covering the Oklahoma challenge on Thursday night!!!

-Qadoshyah Fish
Oklahoma Parking Lot Patriot

Total Bull#%%^!!

Our goal should be from this point on to control the vote COUNT.

Take control of ALL voting boxes, chairs, committees.

Let them check US to see if we counted correctly.

We also need to control the RNC.

Then let THEM complain.

Dang! I'm pissed again.

Steve Dickson's picture

I mailed it...

i's dotted, t's crossed, everything in order...

This will be in the Daily Oklahoman, the largest paper in the state, tomorrow.

Look for an article in the Daily Caller as well, by Adam Bates.

Keep shining the light of truth, Q - you're doing great!

Daily Caller article

can be viewed here: http://www.dailycaller.com/2012/08/13/why-the-oklahoma-gop-d...

We are also in contact with Ben Swann to get this covered on Reality Check.

-Qadoshyah Fish
Oklahoma Parking Lot Patriot

The more I see

The more the GOP is making a total joke of themselves!!!They are the laughing stock of the political arena.They have to ignore their own rules & cheat to get the person in office that THEY want.Forget who the people want.You are merely a useless eater.You don't deserve a vote in this world.They will tell you who they choose.Just sit down drink your kool-aid & obey.

........F**K THAT!!!!I say we continue to infiltrate the GOP.And once we have taken over the gop,we just disolve it.And lets do the same with the dem party too.This party system is destroying this country.They just keep fighting over issues that they state different arguments,but then do the same things.I think it's time to let the government of the republic of the US take control.The current gov is making a laughing stock out of the US!!!

On air tonight!

I am one of the Contestants on the Oklahoma Challenge to the RNC Committee on Contests. I will be live on the Free Mind Report tonight from 6:15-6:45pm CST to discuss the Oklahoma delegate battle, and the complete disregard for the rules the Republican party has.

You can listen in on the website, http://freemindreport.com/ or tune in on the radio. If you're in the Oklahoma City area, it'll be on 102.3FM!

-Qadoshyah Fish
Oklahoma Parking Lot Patriot

best of luck to you tonight

Can't wait to hear how this turns out. Someone, somehow, doing the right thing for the right reasons should win,

Keep us updated on Oklahoma

From Louisiana


Thank you,

Louisiana. Ultimately the truth must stand, so we continue to fight on.

We will keep you guys informed of what happens.

-Qadoshyah Fish
Oklahoma Parking Lot Patriot

Never say Never

Thank you Oklahoma for never giving up.

What is this? Judge? A FAKE WOODEN NICKEL?

Preamble in RNC Rule Book:
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Republican Party is the party of the open door. Ours is the party of liberty, the party of equality, of opportunity for all, and favoritism for none.

It is the intent and purpose of these rules to encourage and allow the broadest possible participation of all voters in the Republican Party activities at all levels and to assure that the Republican Party is open and accessible to all Americans.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the following be and hereby are adopted as The Rules of the Republican Party,composed of the rules for the election and government of the Republican National Committee until the next national convention, the rules under which delegates and alternate delegates shall be allotted to the respective states in the next national convention, and the rules under which such delegates and alternate delegates shall be elected and under which contests shall be considered, and the rules of business of this national convention.
Sounds So Official, but, What is it?

A charter, promise, measure of good faith, guarantee, contract, sales tool,
Contract Pledge Assured Purpose mission statement honest pledge of artificial promise put-on goal proposal undertaking ploy scheme racket bogus snake oil racket deceit trick scam deception dupe smoke and mirrors hoodwink con defraud cheat get or…..a fake wooden nickel?

"Ironic". Oath keepers, to preserve the constitution, if we totally lose the Constitution, how much need will there be for Judges. Reminds me of the opening of the Beatles movie "Help", "If we lose the congregation, No more me."

When the law is defunct, we have no choice but to enforce it....

"When the law has been shredded and corrupted, we have no choice but to enforce it and secure new guardians." - Thomas Paine

Forcefully push back and file the legal challenge. Don't expect it to be easy, just expect we will win.

In the Rules preamble

Paragraph 2
The INTENT & PURPOSE - I don't see a disclaimer - ie, not available in all areas, or, Some restrictions may apply,etc.
Could it just be for the purpose to allude to the VOTER that they believe in the free and honest and fair election.

Just a cover. Seems fraudulent if they in fact do exactly the opposite.
RICO action is in the works.

The patriots here in Oklahoma

The patriots here in Oklahoma continue the fight for the rule of law.

Our opposition doesn't think it is a big deal to disregard the rules if only because the majority of a body said it was okay.

These same rule breakers will decry unconstitutional laws and Federal government overreach.

They fail to see that the Feds are just behaving as they themselves do regarding the rules.

Accountability starts with us. It matters, even if the only thing we succeed in doing is shining light on the hypocrisy and corruption.

So file the legal contests and affidavits & take it all the way.

So file the legal contests and affidavits to take this thing all the way past the mark. Bring it to court and cheat right back.

We can flip this around and thus nominate him, showing a strong voice against the dictator.

(Pretty soon Obama is going to introduce his "cashless" society, so if you haven't gotten into using legal tender again...now is the only time you should switch over!)

Its a confirmed fact that Obama's organized crime syndicate will never, ever lose to Paul anyway...so lets take this all the way.