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Conspiracy of Silence: Obama And Romney Remain Mum On Afghanistan

How’s this for a conspiracy of silence? With less than three months to go until Election Day, President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have successfully avoided saying almost anything about America’s war in Afghanistan. Remember that war? You will at some point, however little the two candidates talk about it.

You can make your own guesses about why the candidates have said so little about Afghanistan—their positions are virtually identical, the economy is more important, etc. My own guess: neither of them knows what to do about the place. In a mere twenty-eight months, the United States is scheduled to stop fighting, and every day brings new evidence that the Afghan state that is supposed to take over is a failing, decrepit enterprise.

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SteveMT's picture

Both are the same:"both candidates now favor a drawdown by 2014"

[Romney and Obama are like two peas in a pod.]

Romney, Obama spar on war in Afghanistan
August 20, 2012|By Mitchell Landsberg

"both candidates now favor a drawdown of American troops by the end of 2014."

"To the extent that it has, Romney has criticized the president over his policies toward Iran (too friendly) and Israel (not friendly enough)."

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/20/news/la-pn-romney-ob...

Afghanistan - Our troops are dying at a rate of one/day.

There are 861 days until "the end of 2014."

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

"All the 'support the troops' stuff is bumper sticker deep."

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_21367648

1,990th service member dies
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/22/us/war-in-afghanistan-clai...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

They won't touch it

War is just too profitable politically and financially for either party to stop.

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

bump for peace

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I don't hear much from either party

about most of the countries the U.S. has recently invaded or dropped bombs on, or those where it is promoting war and supplying munitions

What is needed in Tampa is a 6' x 30' mylar banner that says

something like this on that parade route Ron Paul asked us to line with signs that the media will have a real difficult time hiding:

Afghanistan War 2001-2012 Obama Didn't End It And Mitt Romney Won't Either

Vote Your Conscience Vote For Peace Bring Our Troops Home

Vote Ron Paul 2012 He'll End The Wars Because He Is A Man Of His Word

(or: He Is Not A Flip-Flopper)

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

Exactly what you said on a banner is perfect.

Hope it is done! Keep it positive.

"Afghanistan War 2001-2012 Obama Didn't End It And Mitt Romney Won't Either

Vote Your Conscience Vote For Peace Bring Our Troops Home

Vote Ron Paul 2012 He'll End The Wars Because He Is A Man Of His Word"

The cost of Afghanistan & Iraq

Twin banners:

Afghanistan & Iraq = $9.7 BILLION (PER MONTH)

........VOTE RON PAUL....END THE WARS.......

Afghanistan & Iraq = 6,400 American LIVES LOST

........VOTE RON PAUL....END THE WARS........

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Yes use the budget to persuade the neocons

Just like the good doctor said in a debate last year. If I can't convince you that these wars are wrong morally, I can convince you that they are wrong financially (paraphrase).

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
-Benjamin Franklin

To be sure, these wars are wrong on multiple levels

Re their constitutionality, did you see that great post today? "Tom Mullen: Why does Ron Paul insist on a declaration of war?"
http://www.dailypaul.com/248989/tom-mullen-why-does-ron-paul...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Or

$116,400,000,000 per year or over $318,904,109 per day (if I done my math correctly)(actually, I broke it down to the approximate cost per second - $123/second - at that amount,how much did it cost you to read this post?)
And maybe break the lives lost down to per year, per month, or per day.

Just saying $9.7 billion is sometimes less effective that saying $9,700,000,000!
(people see the zero's that they don't see in the word billion!)

For the trivia buffs-
there are about 10 million bricks in the Empire State Building! So if each dollar was a brick, each year would build 9.7 Empire State Buildings!

• A stack of $100 bills for a billion dollars would be 10,000 feet tall, taller than the tallest building in the United States and taller than any mountain east of the Rockies, including Mt. Washington (6288 ft, the tallest mountain in North East United States)

On September 7, 2003, President Bush asked Congress to grant an additional $87 billion to continue the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. The $87 billion would cover a whole football field with $100 bills to the depth of 6 inches. By September 2007, the United States will have spent $315 billion on the war (Source). The Senate is working on adding another $50 billion. The $365 billion would fill a football field to a depth of 2 feet with $100 bills.
• Filling a football field with $100 bills may seem sort of silly but it is not far from what the Bush Administration did. During Paul Bremer's tenure as administrator of Iraq, the United States shipped bales of cash to Iraq. The total amount cash sent was over $12 billion, requiring a football field size warehouse to store the cash. A special inspector general for the Iraqi reconstruction said that $8.8 billion is unaccounted for after being given to the Iraqi ministries. But more interesting, illustrating the physical dimensions of the cash shipped, $4 billion of the cash is missing, some 363 tons of it.
(information from http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthread.php?t=78957)

YES! Cost of wars need those 000,000,000,000's

Love your Empire State analogy, but I think you've greatly underestimated the situation. Those pesky zero's!

9,700,000,000 bricks (dollars)/10,000,000 bricks per building =
970 buildings... that could be built per MONTH.

Imagine a miniature city built with all those bricks (dollars) that have been spent so far - and growing at the rate of 970 Empire State Buildings per month, or 30 per day. What a GARGANTUAN CITY! "According to Defense Department figures, by the end of April the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — including everything from personnel and equipment to training Iraqi and Afghan security forces and deploying intelligence-gathering drones — had cost an average of $9.7 billion a month, with roughly two-thirds going to Afghanistan."
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/08/15/120758/true-cost-of-af...

That "city" is what needs to be dismantled, brick by brick, to pay off the gargantuan debt. But first we have to stop the building! Stop the damn wars!!!

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

And McChrystal Wants Draft Reinstated

As the article states: "...after eleven years, more than four-hundred billion dollars spent and two thousand Americans dead, this is what we’ve built: a deeply dysfunctional, predatory Afghan state that seems incapable of standing on its own—even when we’re there."

I haven't heard much from pro-war OBAMA and ROMNEY on General McChrystal's recommendation that we REINSTATE THE DRAFT. McChrystal said "the burdens of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan haven't been properly shared across the U.S. population..." (http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/07/03/mcchrysta...). In BLOOD and PHYSICAL INJURIES he's right. But where did the FOUR HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS come from (some of which is in private Afghani bank accounts?). Well, actually we DIDN'T pay for that. The federal government BORROWED it, what pro-war RYAN hopes the CURRENT GENERATION might pay back in THIRTY YEARS.

STOP THE DAMN WARS!!!

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Rothschild mafia proxy wars

Ok Iraq new Ratchild corporate central bank that counterfeits sovereign debt as money, same in Afghanistan, same in Libya. Yah the US Military has become a mercenary Rothschild army that goes about the planet to any area that does not have one of their, Rothschild false debt producing slave control central banks and installs one. Oh BTW USA has had one for the last hundred years thanks to that despot Woodrow Wilson.
When will a critical mass of humanity reject these counterfeiters of compounding national debts? I hope soon.

"Amsel (Amschel) Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838:

"Let me issue and control a Nation's money and I care not who makes its laws".

They use claims of National debt (FALSE DEBT - because these so called national debts are created out of thin air digitized at no cost right at a computer keyboard.)

A claim of false debt can be used to extort payment hence controling or enslaving the victim into perpetual servatude. If the victim refuses, any type of punishment including torture and murder can be justified.

So they use false national debts to justify the EXTORTED THEFT called tax collections (service the national debt). If a person identifies themselves as a non SUBMITTER they put them in torture chambers called corporate prison.

Society goes along with it because of the claims of national debt repayment is the basis of tax colection.

sovereign

You are so right

in everything you have said. I share your frustration. Ron Paul educated me and I guess it is up to us to educate the rest.

They are playing the game of having an election.

The media only reports on trivial issues and the sleeping masses only think about what is placed before them by the MEDIA. Unbelievable.

Even in Canada the leading headlines are Romney/Ryan, as though there was anything worth reporting or anything intelligent said by either of them. Great PHOTO OPS, and that might win them the election in this upside down shallow world.

I am proud to stand among you with Ron Paul. Come hell or high water, the revolution will go on, because life without FREEDOM is unthinkable.

Bump

And so, with the sheep sleeping, continues the longest war in American history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNqIrDKnNE8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccu70TS8F1Q

We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.
-George Orwell