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When do you believe the crash will happen?

Just before the housing meltdown in 08, I noticed the media and markets were really jittery. I went into work and said to everybody that something was happening and that I believed the economy was about to crash. Sure enough.. a day or two later the meltdown happened.

Im not claiming to be psychic but I just had a gut instinct something big was about to happen and it did. Im having that feeling again.. Its my personal thought that if a crash happens it will be very close to the election. Either right before or weeks after.

What are your thoughts?

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New currency

One of either Europe, Russia or China will create a new currency or fiat system, then they will allow the US dollar to collapse, then out leaders will force us to join in on this system, saying that it will stabilize the country. This will enslave us all into the new world order Bush was talking about, a one world government and one world currency. This will probably happen sometime between 2013 and 2015.


Consider student loans. They are a well reported on bubble, and it is obviously unsustainable. Unfortunately, they are already set up for decades of government support in the form of loan guarantees. bankruptcy protection, and 20 year payoffs. Thus they will be an inflationary force for years, making gold and silver good safe havens assuming they aren't made illegal or debased themselves. It could be fixed, if there was enough political will to pull the life support. In that case, there would be crash, similar to the housing crash. Indebted students could enter bankruptcy, diploma factories would close, and the banking sector would be hammered. We could recover, quickly and powerfully, and the wasteful spending of the idea that everyone belongs in college (everyone should own their home) would finally be dead.

The fact that a fix, by austrian economics, requires a crash makes it politically impossible. The recovery would just be starting by the time they were lobbied out of office. There may be little bumps in the economy in the meantime, but chances are this is going to be a miserable "death by a thousand cuts" that will take a generation to fix.

I'm just throwing this out there.

I find it quite fascinating that the Mayans predicted something was going to happen in Dec, 2012. Could it be the collapse. It seems we're hitting a climax of some sort. The R3VOLution could be what the Mayans were talking about. Intellectually we're hitting another level, that's for sure.

The crash will start...

near end of this year and make its presence known for all to see in 2013. Also expect some type of major warfare commencing right before or after the elections.

The Libertarian Party, irrelevant since 1971.

It Isn't Rocket Science

But the Fed wants you to think it is. The media was talking about a housing bubble at least since 2005. Bubbles burst, they always do. There are bubbles right now in bonds, student loans, and healthcare. I guarantee you those sectors will be very different in ten years. You have to do the fundamental/common sense analysis to decide when they might burst and how damaging or widespread the impact will be, but it really is that easy. Find someone who has the time and access to market details to get a better idea. I really like 24hgold.com. Everyone who reads them has been making good money for the last decade or so.

It ain't Rockafeller Science either.

The Fed wants you to pay, & pay, & pay. Pay them their due. Their income tax...

[The gentleman's time has expired.]

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Life is full of surprises


2008 took Wall Street by surprise, now they are planning for it. Their job is much easier now since all countries are on FIAT and are HAPPY to print in synch with the FED to keep currency conversion rate the same. The world goes gradually to total "mixed economy" of fascism from China to Russia to Japan to EU to USA as was predicted long time ago.

"We are now at the end of the road of reason. The part played by bourgeoisies is finished permanently. A new age of magic interpretation of the world is coming. We must distrust the intelligence and the conscience and place our trust in our instincts. People set us down as enemies of intelligence. We are. But in a much deeper sense than these conceited dolls of bourgeois scientists have ever dreamed of."
Zionists of the Elders of Zion

Ooops, I take it back. It was A. Hitler.

It won't happen, but they do

It won't happen, but they do want to scare the hell out of everyone, that's for sure.

I do not believe the powers that be will seek to destroy their own house of cards.

If the global market collapses, it will be by design...but why would they destroy a system that works perfectly for them, and give the opportunity to start anew for any country?

They want control, and they have it. They will not lose control over a rigged system that benefits them by destroying it.

They like to scare people to keep them away from looking behind the big green curtain.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

1907. Crashes come & go. Next one will be the end of 1913?

But I get ahead of myself.

In the last few centuries, national fiat paper-money has crashed about 700 times. Paper pushers make a habit of it. The English Pound ~ 319 years. The Swiss Frank ~ 130 years. The United States Fed Reserve Note (aka: $; the US Dollar) ~ 99 years.

$2 Quadrillon? Where does all that "legal tender" money go?

$1.66 Quadrillion Cash Flow Racket Run By Monopoly Boyz! Mark Twain 04/08/2012

Fed Inflates Itself Beyond "Alice in Wonderland" ... $2 Quadrillion Mark Twain 09/11/2011

Follow the money.

Tuesday, August 2, 2011
The Average Life Expectancy For A Fiat Currency Is 27 Years ... [average also reported as 37 years]. Every 30 To 40 Years The Reigning Monetary System Fails And Has To Be Retooled

David Galland notes:
Monetary scholar Edwin Vieira ... pointed out that every 30 to 40 years the reigning monetary system fails and has to be retooled. The last time around for the U.S. was in 1971, when Nixon cancelled the convertibility of dollars into gold. Remarkably, the world bought into the unbacked dollar as its reserve currency, but only because that was the path of least resistance. But here we are 40 years later, and it is clear to anyone paying attention that the monetary system is irretrievably broken and will fail.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

robot999's picture

Maybe a better question is:

What will happen AFTER the crash?

Will evil banksters / delusional war-mongering neo-cons get their NWO - or will the "awakened" few like us prevail through Liberty and Justice for all?

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

The whole thing is disgusting

This is a repeat of the Jimmy Carter days when everyone was selling their silverware and running for the hills.

We had a puppet who ran the course and now we have another puppet who soon will hand off the torch to another puppet. They all got rich on illegal deals much with tax payer money.

It's disgusting no matter how you slice it. All the news about Ryan and Romney acting like they are in the general election. Total disrespect for Paul Revere aka Ron Paul.
Bet you 10,000 they promised to pull a JFK on Dr No then Rand endorsed an ugly neo-con
and Carol freaked from the JFK scenario before Rand came out on TV to publicly endorse someone other than Dr NO.

We were winning-We could have won. So totally disgusted. Delegates can't even raise the cash to get to FL and RNC bought off all the cheap lodging to sqeeze us out......no one cares about us...we spoke up and fought in this primary hard and legally but it's all about them when it should be about us.

So disgusted and down.....Tell me why we donated to the campaign?
Can the campaign loosen up some of those dollars for the delgates? Can they spare 100k to distribute to needy delegates so we dont feel like we gave that money for nothing? What happens to the left-over funds?

P Ryan is disgusting. he has his eye on the $ he'll make while in office. he doesn't even know about making a budget.
Just gag me with a spoon. He is trying to punk the Tea Party. he's NOT Tea Party and never was. Bachmann is Tea Party. She cared when no one else would.....except for Dr no

Keepin' it real.

Impossible To Know

The reason I think it's impossible to know is because it's virtually impossible to know the extent to which the money printers can prop up the world economy. By the money printers own admission, in 2008, we should have already had the collapse. We were (again, according to their own words) in the midst of a banking run in the fall of 2008. Treasury Secretary Paulson thought we were litterally on the verge of a banking run and a run on food in stores.

Watch this video to see a movie depict this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DgpdrespVE&feature=player_de...

However, him, the congress and Fed helped print over that collapse. And Paulson is a guy who "hated bailing banks out" as head of the Treasury. Geithner, on the other hand, won't think twice about bailing out private institutions in a way that will give government more control in the future. So everything we see is a reaction to the realities of the economy that the Fed and Treasury/Banking system has created. And they'll just continue until we become completely insolvent. As a result I have a tendency to think we'll see an inflationary boom and a stock market that rises instead of collapses.

That will being it's own collapse but it'll be gradual. Or I could be wrong and Aliens come down and probe us all.

Its The End Of The World

(As we know it)..Why not 12/21/12? That would make the prophecy come true.
For some unknown reason..or I cant remember cause it was over 35 years ago (and I was only13)..my granny believed it to be on or within 1 month of 10/15/12.
Granny was 1/2 Cherokee, and all her people had what we call 'the vision'..She was under school standards, uneducated, but she read the signs..and was never wrong..so far..God rest her soul.

I believe in Hope & Change..I Hope the government will Change
Spindale-Rutherford County-North Carolina

Good lecture about it...How Near is the End

This lecture dissects and answer that question really well:

How Near is the End


A good way to defend your freedoms: www.libertymagazine.org

robot999's picture


"brother" : )

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

I hope you've got your

Gold / Silver / Bitcoins

See this very informative video.


As the man in the video says. The US need cheap oil, or the production will be more expensive and this will make it impossible for the people to pay the debts, and the financial system could collapse.

Iran have the worlds largest, and probably last, cheap oil reserves. If they get the hand of nukes so can they start to raise their prices which could bring upon a financial collapse in China, US and EU.

If US attacks Iran so will they probably burn their reserves (as Iraq did during the invasion), the oil prices goes up and this could start the financial collapse.

An hyperinflation will happen right after, as soon as they (the establishment) realize it can't go on any longer and they decide this will be the moment to write down all the debts (to print the dollar to almost zero).

Algae Biodiesel

Algae oil can also be converted to ethanol. No am im not climate alarmist. No I am not a tree hugger. Algae does not compete with corn. Algee produces 22,000 gallons per acre. while corn is not even 1 thousand gallons per acer. It can grow on bodies of water. 120acres x 120 acres can replace all of the US's diesel usage with biodiesel. Anyone can grow it. Think about all the retention ponds and lakes that can be utilized. Even NASA is researching it, and has algae farms in the ocean. Infrastructure for fuel distribution doesn't need to be massively overhauled as there is no expensive modifications that need to be done to vehicles or pumping equipment if any at all. My f250 runs on home made algal biodiesel. I don;t have the time to completely replace my petrol diesel consumption, with biodiesel, but it sure helps out.

Just a thought. If we could get big oil companies out of government and government out from over regulating, discouraging start ups, we might actually move forward as a human race.


Have not heard of this before. Of course, to develope an infrastructure for this would take months to years and won't help out in for this collapse.

But to grow it at home could be an interesting experiment. Do you have any source (website) on how to do it?

i first just googled and youtube'd

THen I got a book called "Making Algae Biodiesl at Home" by David Sieg. I will admit not the best publication, but it will have the same basic information. The book will at least give you an idea of the necessary steps are and some ideas on the different kinds of setups you can use. Honestly youtube it, and you will likely find everything you need. Most of what you will learn will be from your own trial an error as everyone's needs and situations are different. I live in FL so I can grow just about all year round. Algae grows naturally and is abundant. So its not hard for me. If you use an indoor system, you can certainly grow all year round but then you have to consider costs of lighting etc.

Unfortunately there is no one stop how to place. I researched for days and days, on many different sites watched many different howtos from individuals on youtube. Once i was comfortable with all the steps I started testing things out.

Where do you get the Algae??

how is it processed? (I know, I can do a Google search, just hoping you could save me some time and direct me to some of the better publications on the subject)

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

you can order Algae online

or get it naturally from a pond or body of water in your area. You have to decide if you are going to do indoor or outdoor setup. Some algae has higher lipid content (salt water algae) and regenerates faster but are harder to grow and must be grown in a closed controlled environment, usually indoor with electric lighting. You have to find what works for you. For me, I have an outdoor bioreactor / pond to grow algae. Use the sun for lighting. I live in FL so it was easy to find a naturally growing algae that would work for me. Make sure the water has nitrates, and free of contaminants it will grow on its own usually.

The extraction process is not complicated at all. You just have to come up with a means to scoop the algae of the top of the pond, bioreactor or whatver you use. Then use a press to squeeze out the oil. Then you must turn that in to biodiesl through transesterfication using lye and methanol. Both can be home made as well, but I order my stuff online.



Take note you can turn veggie oil, and oils like olive oil into biodiesel as well. using transesterfication. So if you have a neighbor that owns a restaurant, you should make a deal with them for their used oil. Fuel becomes like a dollar a gallon in this case.

Algal oil is a little different from veggie oil as it is more viscus. I mix mine with some regular diesel after I put it through the transestification process and take the glycerin out. But you don't have to. There are people who run their vehicles on just algae biodiesel.

The bi product of this process can be turned into soap. Biodiesel keeps my engine clean, less maintenance, so i save money there as well. Only thing i had to change was a fuel filter because the biodiesel actually broke up all the gunk in my gas tank.

There is a lot of documentation out there. If you have diesal powered car, you definitely have some options. You just have to put a little work into it. I literally have invested over 100 hours in research and trying things out before I figured out what was going to work for me. My breif explanation probably does not do it any justice. There are also youtube videos with how tos and everything. The info is all out there. Just up to us to do something about it

to explain ron's lack of

to explain ron's lack of enthusiasm for the presidency, perhaps ron knows the crash is imminent, and he feels he can accomplish more working with us than vying for the presidency.

Let's pray Dr. Paul wins

Let's pray Dr. Paul wins and the crash is avoided.

But be ready just in case.

Tin Pan

henry9's picture

The "crash" cannot be avoided at this point.

I suggest get a case of everything just in case.

henry9's picture

Right after the RP speech at the Sun Dome!!!

God has to love the way this world has unfolded.

And what's to come!

LIBERTY2ME's picture

October, Novemeber.

October, Novemeber. Definitely before the election.


Possibly prior to the 2012 election...


A run up in the markets that

A run up in the markets that may last until the November elections, then down hill from there over the next two years until we are BELOW the March 9, 2009 bottom, that's when a highly inflationary bull market takes off with gold soaring above $2500 and markets climbing for 3 to 5 years. Inflation will be higher then most can now imagine, 10% to 15%, it will really hurt all those on fixed incomes, SS, welfare, food stamps, etc.