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NEWS: Paul Festival is officially changing its name!

They are now called P.A.U.L. Festival which stands for "People Awakening and Uniting for Liberty"

http://www.ronpaultribune.com/index.php/more/contributors-ar...

"We love Ron Paul, he is the inspiration for the Festival.

We would give anything to have him speak or visit the Festival. For whatever reason he has decided against it. We did not seek his approval, or ask him to sanction this event, we just DID IT. Being the LIBERTARIAN MINDED PEOPLE we are, we did not ask for permission.

We are grassroots activists, not concert promoters, nor are we part of the (broken) GOP machinery.

Dr. Paul called us PERSONALLY a while back, thanked us, and wished our event success. But he found it necessary to hold his own event in which he had complete control of. This is understandable,
and we accept that, and have gone to great lengths to work it into our program.

Peter Schiff, Lew Rockwell, Gary Johnson, Tom Woods, Adam Kokesh and others who are the heart of the R3VOLUTION and stalwart Libertarians, not only are going to speak, they all, down to the last man DONATED their time. For that, we thank all of those who have gone to such great lengths to help us put together the MOST PROLIFIC ALL STAR line-up the R3VOLUTION has ever seen. We have SO MANY liberty bands and freedom loving entertainers, a virtual who is who of our new, young movement.

We are not Republicans. WE ARE THE FUTURE. P.A.U.L. Festival IS HAPPENING! :-D

It will be the moment we wean ourselves and become FREE AND INDEPENDENT as we continue to be active and work towards instilling the libertarian values Dr. Paul has espoused. But more than anything else... one thing has become PLAINLY obvious to us, there is no political solution to the problems that are dragging America through the dirt. The only solution is a change in how we think.

So get your tickets NOW and come to P.A.U.L. Festival - Rock with us, laugh with us, remember with us, cry with us, but most of all celebrate OUR future with us.

P.A.U.L. Festival
People Awakening and Uniting for Liberty

Be there."




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I'm going to the Ron Paul Rally at the Sun Dome...

We need to give Ron Paul's official gathering a show of force. Get your free ticket into the Sun Dome Rally at RonPaul2012.com and share rides and hotels etc., with friends. Volume and numbers are very important at this point. I've been saving just for this. See you Daily Paulers there. Maybe we occupy a section for DailyPaul members?

I say: if you can't make it better, don't make it worst!

Why not go to both?

The object is to show as much support for Dr. Paul and his message as possible. The idea behind Paul Festival is to get everyone to Tampa to show our numbers.

Good.

Though with the LP being its big backer, and Gary Johnson being the Presidential candidate speaking there, this shouldn't even carry the Paul name as an acronym. Just call it what it really is-Johnson Fest.

PierzStyx

OK since everybody else has an opinion

If it's a boy I vote we call it Joe-Bob and if it's a girl I vote for Valerie-Lee.

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Excellent!

Don't let anyone sell us out!

Hey GOP, where's my vote?

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What a joke this movment has

What a joke this movment has become.......don t forget your peace signs, your tie dye shirts and your peace pipes.

reedr3v's picture

I guess it's election fever infecting so many.

There is so little time, so much at stake, the odds are so enormous against Liberty.

After the election we'll reassess our situation, remember the true direction of Liberty & Peace require heart, spirit, broad tolerance of diverse choices and paths.

Sorry so many on this thread think it's useful to badmouth the directions of those with whom they disagree. Get used to real life diversity and learn to support it. This movement is only going to grow and the options will multiply. Try learning to accept this as a good thing, not a threat.

The odds we face are grim, but we'll attract far more supporters with love and joy in our vision of truth and peace and individual and cultural liberty than in negativity.

Exactly

Is this a serious political movement?
Or do people just want to have a party and let their hair down?

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Yes and Yes

Those two things are not irreconcilable.

PierzStyx

Woodstock?

This will tick some people off but it needs to be said.

Rather than spending $200 - $1,000 to go to this, it could be used to send three or more "NO" votes on the drug war, war with Iran, TSA molestation, etc, to Congress for two or six more years. This is looking more like a Woodstock for certain activists to stroke their own ego's, than an effort to re-energize the movement.

"A true competitor wants their opponent at their best." Lao Tzu

Can we choose another name?

GOP people think we are nutters because we keep harping on about Liberty.
They think they are free already.
They also think they are awake.

This will do MAJOR damage to our chances in Tampa.
All kinds of disparaging labels and headlines will be used by Fox if this is the name.

If a better name can't be thought up - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stick to PAULFEST.

You are thinking like Ron Paul people and you are most definitely NOT thinking like GOP delegates or FOX.

You might like the name, I couldn't care less what you want or like.
We have to persuade GOP delegates NOT you.

If the name is not changed back I think I will give up.
We will have NO chance in Tampa.

This is the kind of language we need to use in order to persuade.
Note how many time the words liberty, freedom, end the Fed, end the wars, bring the troops home are used.

Use language that appeals to GOP NOT you.
It doesn't mean changing any policies, I don't want any of them changed.
Just change the language so that it is what GOP want to hear. And that most definitely is NOT Liberty.

But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE think what your audience would like to hear.
And your audience is not Ron Paul people (even though you might have a wonderful time at PaulFest) your audience is NON Ron Paul people.
Otherwise we will sink like a stone at the Tampa convention.

We need to adopt this kind of language, if we are to win.
http://www.dailypaul.com/249076/a-conservative-canditae-want...

It is not just us that has this problem.
GOP are still thinking like GOP and NOT like Indie's.
That's why they will sink like a stone if Romney is nominated.
Indie's will be turned OFF by Romney in DROVES.

Some GOP leadership figures are starting to think like Indie's and privately admitting that Romney will lose and lose badly.
But they will not say that on the record.

If you just want a party, go ahead and use your suggestion.
If you are serious about getting Ron Paul nominated I strongly suggest you reconsider.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

They need to be worried about

what we think, not the other way around.

why?

as long as they can keep enough people from ignoring and/or laughing at us, they couldn't care less what we think.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

And, yet, we continue to grow

despite your fears. Strong evidence to support my statement.

I do not understand why not worrying about what others think of you is such a hard concept.

How much do you listen to someone

you think is a laughing stock?

That is what Fox etc. has been trying to persuade their viewers he is.
They are afraid of Ron Paul's ideas and policies.
They use propaganda well to discredit him.

We need to do all that we can to be reputable and credible.
That means talking in GOP language.

Yep we continue to grow.
Awareness is massively up since 2008.
We have plucked the low lying fruit.

Now we have to reach up into the higher branches.
To the people who are more brainwashed.
The people who have been watching Fox for 20 years.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Fox?

Just another statist mouthpiece that continues to lose viewership.

Yepper, that's who I listen to faithfully .... NOT

p.s. The branches of which you speak are fruitless and withering.

You don't

The people we need to persuade in Tampa most definitely do.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Back to the bottomline

A fear-based strategy is a guaranteed loser.

Hitler did quite nicely on it for about 10 years

after he got into power.

Of course the next 3 years were not quite so good for him or his people.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

I wonder how much

Hitler worried about others perception.

Quite A Bit Actually

The whole point of those huge processions with overwhelming pomp were to keep the people persuaded to support him. It was about showing them what he had done for the German people and what greater things he had in store for them. It was ALL about other people's perception of him. You don't have a Propaganda Ministry if you don't give a damn what other people think of you.

PierzStyx

You are confusing yourself

He may have used pomp and circumstance to move his movement forward, but I doubt that he ever gave a damn about what others thought of his methods.

One does not equal the other.

Hey now

Don't forget hundreds of us not only joined the GOP but took the establishment seats and those changes you are seeing in the GOP is because we are winning. The Neocons KNOW they've been playing dirty tricks, and we're still there. They KNOW we see them for what they are. The jig is up.

I think it's time we start taking the high road and TAKE THE GOP, marginalize the Neos, force them out and bascially do to the GOP what the P.A.U.L. people did to us. It's a win win for Ron Paul Republicans as we take a major party and disenfrancise those who have stolen our message, motto and leaders name to marginalize him.

WE ARE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, and if we don't want a one party dictatorship, we need to fight for it. This is the neocons last stand. WE ARE THE FUTURE.

I will give you a clue

When the neocons took over the GOP they didn't say they were going to start perpetual war and waste trillions doing it to bankrupt America.

But that is what GW Bush stood for. Or Cheney at least - Bush more of a patsy.

We have a very positive message.
Only the right language is missing.

If the neocons are to be marginalised that means persuading some waverers over to us.
And to do that we need to use language that resonates with them not turns them off straight away.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Bullsh1t

We march forward and they follow or get left behind.

A strategy based in fear is a guaranteed loser.

In case you hadn't noticed the neocons

are still winning.
And an economic downturn is coming, which they can use to say the gov needs more power and your safety demands less civil liberties.

That is why it is so important to get Ron Paul elected NOW.

Thomas Paine - Common Sense
We must act NOW, before our enemies grow too strong.

You heard about the staffing of Fema camps?
and the order of 1,375 milion bullets by DHS?

Hitler won for quite a while with a message of fear.
He deceived a lot of smart Germans as well - until it was too late and launched Germany into Armageddon.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

All about perception

The only ones that think that neo-cons are winning are neo-cons, or the fence-sitters that still let the mainscream media influence their beliefs.

The evidence shows that they are indeed losing.

You do not have a very good perception

of how most ordinary GOP think.

I was tweeting with a circa 40 year old woman with children the other day, who was encouraging people to donate to Romney.

Her profile said Christian, have faith in the Lord, pro life, truthseeker.
I posted up a couple of items about Romney.
One was the church piece about Obama being more pro life than Romney by comparing Romneycare with Obamacare.
It also mentioned the Bain Capital seed capital from S American Death squads.
The other was my blogpost for the current electoral college map.

Her response.
I DON'T CARE WHAT HE IS LIKE.
DON'T TRY AND PERSUADE ME.
I am voting Republican, whoever he is, I don't want that commy.

Blocked

Some Christian truth seeker there.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

When you go fishing at the lake

what percentage of the fish do you catch?