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Paul Ryan's ATROCIOUS Record on Civil Liberties and the Constitution

Update. I had posted this, and had not yet seen that Ben Swann had produced a video and called Congressman Ryan out on the same illogical quote (you will see it below). But, it goes to show, Americans are starting to wake up. My post:

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I am sure Congressman Ryan is a nice guy. However, his voting record on items related to the Constitution and civil liberties, is anything but nice.

I am sure the congressman is good with his own money, even while, as a "conservative", he had no problem taking by force $800 Billion of the taxpayer's money and distributing it to all the millionaires at Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, and friends.

In fact, the congressman is on record on the house floor...begging for TARP to be passed. Here was his quote from the floor that day: "Madame speaker, this bill [TARP] offends my principles. But I am going to vote for this bill, in order to preserve my principles, in order to preserve this free enterprise system."

Huh?

Congressman Ryan let me ask you a question: Would Ayn Rand--whom you give credit to inspiring your career into politics--approve of TARP...or the fact that you, being true to Objectivism (not!), voted for something that offends your principles, so you can "preserve" your principles??

I thought not.

And neither would Ms. Rand approve of Ryan's abysmal record on matters related to civil liberties and constitutional rights:

[ The following from abovetopsecret.com ]

"Paul Ryan..

NO on Veto override: Congressional oversight of CIA interrogations

NO on requiring FISA warrants for wiretaps in US, but not abroad

YES on extending the PATRIOT Act's roving wiretaps

YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent

YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight

YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant

YES on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad:

YES on retroactive immunity for telecoms' warrantless surveillance."

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And it gets better:

Paul Ryan voted for things like CISPA and voted against allowing medical cannabis operations in the Nation's capital.

Paul Ryan voted for HR347 which essentially suspends the First Amendment rights to free speech and protest near federal government properties or where Secret Service are present.

Paul Ryan voted in 2006 for the Military Commissions Act, which essentially suspends Habeus Corpus.

Paul Ryan voted in 2011 to pass the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes the monstrous Kidnapping & Indefinite Detention Provisions of section 1021 and 1022, two sections which essentially suspend the Rule of Law altogether.

And Paul Ryan--and THIS is the proverbial nail in the coffin for me--voted "nay" in a proposed amendment to strike those provisions from the NDAA!!

And this, from the man who said in his rousing speech this past Saturday in Norfolk, a quote that got echoed all across the news, and a quote, that any liberty-lover, anywhere, would love:

"Our rights do not come from government. They come from God, and Nature."

I love your quote, but, really, Congressman?? Do you really believe in Natural Rights??

Your voting record on the subject, begs to differ.

Your voting record, is at odds, with the very Constitution, that you swore an oath to uphold and protect.

Voting records are like statistics: They don't lie.

Ayn Rand disciple?

Constitutional conservative and Teapartier?

Jeffersonian and Lockean defender of Natural Rights?

Or...just another big government, natural-right-destroying, Neocon??

Will the real Paul Ryan...please stand up!

~Chris

Norfolk, VA



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We have plenty of

We have plenty of politicians, but too few statesmen.John Adams-Diary Feb. 04, 1772. Statesman- A statesman would never compromise his principles. Politician-Someone who would compromise his own principles in order to advance his own interest.

Bob Marshall

sharkhearted's picture

Well said!

Or a politician defined this way: Someone who would compromise his principles...to save his principles.

Or whatever the hell that newspeak gobbledygook, is supposed to mean.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

May I repost this to my facebook account?

Please. Thank you.

Little Bit Farm

sharkhearted's picture

Absolutely!

Thanks for asking...but post as much as you want!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

He's just like Ron Paul, but

He's just like Ron Paul, but completely opposite.

Debbie's picture

Good post, thank you. Very informative.

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Debbie

sharkhearted's picture

Thanks Debbie.

Yeah the news media is not talking about this much....just like....they are probably forbidden by their overlords to talk about things like the NDAA.

But voting records don't lie, and, unlike Governor Romney on these civil liberty issues in congress, we have a track record with Paul Ryan.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Their Mindset Is Different

They were terrified into supporting TARP. Bernanke ran around saying "we won't have an economy" if you don't pass this. I know it sounds easy to us, but it isn't for those born of politics rather than philosophy. Look at it from their eyes - Would you want to be a congressman or senator that presides over the collapse of the entire global economic system? If a bailout of 800 billion is what it takes to stop that, they'll do it. People would have undoubtedly starved, unemployment would have skyrocketed to upwards of 30 percent, the banking system (credit and debit cards) might have become worthless. The entire system would crumble and lives would be lost.

I DO NOT AGREE WITH THEM, I'm just illustrating the way they saw it.

I think the better solution would have been to let it burst and not bail them out, BUT then maybe spend some government money to TEMPORARILY PROVIDE EMERGENCY HOUSING. I know this isn't necessarily libertarian, but I'm just talking about 3 hot meals and a tent/cot. It would not cost nearly as much and would not REWARD RICH ASSHOLES.

More importantly we need to cleanse the system and I'm afraid pain and suffering are inevitable.

Nice try, but they bailed out

Nice try, but they bailed out wall street because they want the wall street money that helps them stay in office.

A principled person doesn't vote against his principles period. Ryan simply isn't principled.

If you need further proof consider that he could have withheld his yea vote until amendments were added to; divorce investment banking from future taxpayer protection, require bonus clawbacks from bailout recipient banksters, require a structured bankruptcy process that still protected depositors but forced the risk takers to take the haircuts.

He did nothing along these lines. He simply handed over the money - money that the supposed deficit hawk knew that the government didn't even have and would have to borrow at the expense of future debt slaves.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

Chris, thanks for posting this.

Most of the people I work with are good people, but are all neo-cons by deception just as I was. They all dislike Romney, but have pledged their votes to him to try to get rid of Obama. They are all saying how encouraged they are about Paul Ryan. It so makes me nauseated! They were already going to vote for Romney & the V.P. choice really won't make much of a difference on the end results.

sharkhearted's picture

Kron, you are right.

People are on autopilot about this.

But if they actually looked at Paul Ryan's voting record (a luxury we don't have with Mitt Romney)...they would be a little less enthusiastic about the congressman.

I used to "like" Paul Ryan. After researching his voting record...the word "despise" comes to mind.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Ryan is a disgrace to this country

Ryan is to Liberty as Taco Bell is to Mexican.

They market themselves as authentic, but anyone that's had the real thing knows they are full of crap.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

sharkhearted's picture

So very true.

Tares among the wheat.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

sharkhearted's picture

So very true.

Tares among the wheat.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Cyril's picture

Thanks for the report on

Thanks for the report on Ryan's record.

I'd say it's rather.. er... Disappointing ? Miserable ? Damaging ? Lame ?

After reading your post... I have the unpleasant taste in mind that, as far as standing on principles ground, he is as close to Ron Paul as ... Romney himself is ;

that is : so far, far, far away !

Great potential already, though, in extensive and consistently applied ... flip flopping.

"[...] offends my principles. But I am going to vote for this bill, in order to preserve my principles, in order to preserve this free enterprise system."

That was a killer. Grammatically correct, semantically absurd.

And if one can be so obviously absurd on so important topics, IMO, my dog and cats' mood of the day are already worth more consideration than his X years in politics.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

sharkhearted's picture

Yeah no kidding bro.

At least your dogs and cats moods are reflective of objective truth (they can't lie).

At least they make some sense....as opposed to this groupthink disaster called the narrative we are told to believe today.

Your friend in liberty,

Chris

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

sharkhearted's picture

TARP Emergency Bailout Bump

LOL....just trying to keep this at the top. Important...although I know I am preaching to the choir with you guys.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

sharkhearted's picture

Second stimulus bump

Haha....please read

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

sharkhearted's picture

"Stimulus" bump (lol)

Practicing a little "intervention" to make sure ya'll see this. Enjoy.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Great post

Even with the dastardly disease known as 'ABO blindness', you'd think any one with a pulse could see what a fake this guy is.

This is mr fiscal conservative too! 30-year balanced budget. Added trillions to the debt. It's too much to wrap my head around some days.

Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito

sharkhearted's picture

Thanks Henry.

And you are right. It is too much to wrap my head around, too.

Almost seems like Orwell madness and Doublespeak.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Ryan is a tough guy

A friend in Wisconsin told me Paul Ryan was a real tough guy back in the day. I found that interesting, considering Romney is alleged to have been a tough guy back in his school days.

Romney tough!?

L.O.L...he had a rich Daddy and avoided going to Vietnam! A true chickenhawk! Weak!

yup a tough guy

that's what has been reported anyway....

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/bulle/2012/0...

I'm 5'9 185

and I bet I would prove in less than 2 min that Paul Ryan is no tough guy...

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

sharkhearted's picture

You mean "bully", correct?

Tough = good.

Bully = bad.

I was thinking that is what you meant.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Bullying is a crime

anti-bully legislation in a number of states specifying "bullying" as a crime and "bully" as the perpetrator of that crime. One must be careful not to make allegations or accusations publicly that falsely suggest a person is a criminal, or one could possibly be sued for slander, character defamation, etc. I don't put anything past slimy politicians.

A tough guy can still be a coward

What is really "tough" is to live your life the right way, and do the right thing, for decades on end, when no one is looking, and when everyone is looking, and when they are mocking you. That is what's tough, and dr. Paul did just that.

Interesting information on Ryan and Romney though thanks

Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito

Paul Ryan.

He found his Dad dead of heart attack at the age of 16. He saved all the Social Security $'s from that for college. He played basketball, was prom king, worked the grill at McDonald's and even drove the Wienermobile for Oscar Mayer. I don't know which part of that makes him tough. However, I found it interesting that he was once taught by a libertarian. I wonder what happened. The love of money & power I suppose.