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Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson receives 24% in nationwide poll

A new presidential opinion poll conducted by Pulse Opinion Research shows Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson receiving 24 percent of the nationwide vote. The poll was commissioned by the Libertarian Action Super PAC, which supports Gov. Johnson's presidential campaign. After an earlier poll commissioned by LASPAC showed Johnson with 19 percent of the nationwide vote, an outpouring of donations made this recent poll possible.

The telephone survey of 1,000 likely voters was worded as follows:

“Suppose in this year’s Presidential Election you had a choice of Libertarian Gary Johnson or Democrat Barack Obama. If the election were held today would you vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson or Democrat Barack Obama?”

Many will point out that the poll does not include Mitt Romney. Therefore, why is this poll relevant?

If one were to take a look at any of several nationwide polls, the wording is nearly identical, with the only exception being that these polls only include Obama and Romney. According to the rules of the Commission on Presidential Debates, the organization controlled by Democrats and Republicans that oversees the presidential debates, a candidate must achieve 15 percent in nationwide polling to be allowed to participate in the debates.

The Commission on Presidential Debates must be consistent. If two-candidate polls that include Obama and Romney are valid, this one is as well...


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Please tell me why this is still floating around like a turd in the toilet bowl and other posts that have been voted much much higher and posted after this one are buried? This has been popping up daily for a week and other much more important and relevant posts are lost?

What a sham this is.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

If this is true, this means NEITHER Barack Obama or

Mitt Romney can be elected POTUS without SERIOUS repercussions.

"Gary Johnson"

What?! We can't have a GJ thread on the DP! *rabble rabble rabble*
I'm going to down vote you because I'm a critical thinker and it's not about the man, it's about the message! Oh wait...I just realized I am making it about the man because I'm too ignorant to broaden horizons and understand that Ron Paul isn't the end all, be all.


If Ron Paul wins...

If Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination, watch that number plummet.

Come on Legalize,

you KNOW you're only 'spose to have one vote!

Gary who?

At this point these posts are just rude and invasive, if liberty was trying to help the Gary Johnson campaign (is that his name?) he has done the exact opposite. If he was working to push Paul supporters from johnson and sour their opinion of his campaign...he has succeeded.

With a name like Legalizeliberty you wouldn't think he would dedicate so much time to a statist war monger like Johnson.

They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds. -mexican proverb

gary johnson is no ron paul, not even close !!

he ran against dr. paul, and he doesn't seem very bright. also, he is not a pure libertarian. however, he is certainly better than romney or obama.



no better and no different.
speaks to a different crowd with a different establishment face.

the establishment has many sides to its rotten face, GJ is the libtard side.
GJ speaks to confused libtards who do not understand economics or the Constitution.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Johnson Got No Time in Debates

If the GOP fails to see the light in Tampa, getting Johnson into the debates is going to be the best way to send them a message, short of quitting the GOP and joining another party.

Voting for Obama won't teach them anything (he won last time without our help).

Not voting doesn't scare them a bit.

Voting for Romney as a "lesser evil" is what they expect to happen.

Getting Johnson into the debates is the best way to let the GOP know what they lost when they cheated delegates of their voices.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Johnson got no time in debates??

Wasn't he only in one or two before he took his ball and went home??
How soon we forget the 89 SECONDS Dr. Paul received in a debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ5XDbqb1YM Even worse, this was specifically a debate on foreign policy...You're excuses for Gov. Johnson don't hold water.

De criminalize Liberty!

He didn't "take his ball and

He didn't "take his ball and go home", he was thrown out of the game by the networks. So to continue with your cliches, your criticism "doesn't hold water".


Gary Should Have Gone Home

We'd all be better off.
Yeah, I hear ya...The media, the networks...THEY did it!
"They" have been "doing it" for years against Ron Paul.
Yet...for some "unexplained reason" Ron Paul, who only got 89 SECONDS
in one debate continues to beat Gary, Barry, Mitt whoever!

This guy is incoherent, looks like he's stoned everytime you see him, and has absolutely NO BASE of support...and NO CHARISMA.

There's a fly buzzing around the room.....
Think I'll get my flyswatter.....and give Gary a good whack!

He shoulda stayed OUT...He screwed you,me and everyone else here by staying in....He and this post should dry up and blow away.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

I was responding to "Wasn't

I was responding to "Wasn't he only in one or two before he took his ball and went home??" specifically. I was only trying to set the facts straight. The implication here is that he willfully abstained from debates. The fact is he was not allowed on the stage.

The delusion continues.....

24% hate Obama enough to vote for a guy they have never heard of.

Now...Tell these same 1000 people that Johnson supports a federal mandate that states be forced to recognize gay marriage....Tell them that he supports more foreign wars.... Tell them that he supports a 23% national sales tax with a pre-bate that turns every citizen into a welfare recipient dependent upon a monthly check from Uncle Sam just to stay afloat.... Tell them he supports forcing every small business to become a federal tax collector...He will lose anyone leaning republican or democrat and many people leaning libertarian.

Now.. play this interview for them which demonstrates he does not know jack crap about being a libertarian.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTch7InkZjo&feature=youtu.be

Now he just lost most libertarians. Seriously..If you still support Gary listen to that interview. You probably will not be supporting him anymore. The guy does not even understand that the Fed money printing scheme is bad for the economy.

Factor all of those things in...And even in this sham poll Gary may end up with net negative poll numbers.

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

Yes, It Does, But Consider Your Own

1. These 1000 people don't go that in-depth, but if they did, they'd realize that none of the issues you mention (gay marriage, foreign wars, or a national sales tax instead of income/capital gains/payroll) are anything the president controls, and are in the hands of Congress, just as they would be if Ron Paul or anyone else is elected (even if you had correctly stated Johnson's positions, which is doubtful).

2. Since those issues aren't relevant, the question is, does he owe anything to the statists? Who supports his campaign? Banks? Defense contractors? Is he bought and paid for? Did the GOP authoritarians shut him out of debates or try to support him (the same who disenfranchised Ron Paul supporters)?

3. Factor in who he's running against: Romney and Obama. Seriously? Considering those three options, you think the most important thing to do is warn against Johnson? Seriously?

If you were a libertarian, you'd be more logical, I think. No candidate is perfect, Ron Paul included. This is not a race between Ron Paul and Johnson. This is a race between statists and libertarians. I, for one, object to your trying to split the freedom movement.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Object all you like....

I object to the LP nominating a guy that is no better than a statist. He wants higer taxes. He wants to force every small business to be a federal tax collector. He wants military action in Uganda. He wants to keep our bases in the middle east, which means troops stay no matter what he says otherwise. He wants to force states, by federal mandate, to accept gay marriage... And the list goes on.

These last two cycles (Barr and now Johnson), the LP candidate is no more libertarian that the republican is conservative.

Again, object all you like, but your insistence that one in the liberty movement MUST accept the LP candidate is no different than what the repubs and dems do. And that is what is truly objectionable.

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

Another embarrassment brought to you by the Libertarian


Gary is another backup for the powers that be. They play Romney against Obama and use Gary as the just in-case enough Liberty minded people show up to vote, we've got that covered too!

Why do people think Dr.Paul was attacked and ignored to the extent he was. He wasn't part of the collective asshole that is the PTB.

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Will Gary be on the ballot

in Canada?

I wish.

Then maybe all the Johnsonites could move to Canada and vote for him. He's not much better than Obama for crying out loud.

Gary who?

Gary who?


Your cute little attempt at humor does nothing but take up space. This isn't youtube or facebook. People like you are turning this website into trash. Just listen to the adults for awhile and maybe you'll learn something.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

Oh yea Gary Johnson... That

Oh yea Gary Johnson... That Democrat who wants government to control marriage. He also doesn't seem to understand when life and liberty start.

Don't forget he wants to

Don't forget he wants to raise taxes and turn every citizen into a federal government welfare recipient with his so called prebate check and also force every small business to become a federal tax collector.

Oh yeah, and he is has some serious neo-con leaning positions. Gary flip flops often enough to make Mitt and even John Kerry look consistent. LOL And let's not forget Johnson telling a room full of high school students that drugs are cool.

Yes..That Gary Johnson.

Never play with a Johnson you cannot trust! :)

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!


You'd have more credibility if you didn't make things up. He doesn't want to raise taxes, he wants to end them. All businesses, large and small, already collect federal taxes, and he wants to free all of us from the IRS and the tax code--you can't call that raising taxes when it would reduce the burdens on us substantially (if he could get Congress to go for it, which, unless we vote in more liberty candidates, won't happen).

I don't mind people pointing out flaws in a candidate, but when they exaggerate and misrepresent, nothing they say remains convincing. Besides, those were the tactics used by the MSM, the GOP, and the statists against Ron Paul, and I have no patience for them.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

You better read up on a

You better read up on a candidate before you try and defend him without knowing what you are talking about. My credibility is fine.

Johnson supports a 23% national sales tax. That is a tax increase for many people. That is in addition to state sales and income taxes. Every small business would be forced to be a federal tax collector for Uncle Same and every citizen would be a welfare recipient dependent upon Johnson's monthly prebate, which would come from the federal government.

The guy you are defending is not advocating ending taxes as you say. Johnson just wants to swap out one bad tax for one that is even worse.

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

"Never play with a Johnson you cannot trust!"


That would make an awesome bumper-sticker/advertisement. :)

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I'd have to see corroborating polls from better known pollsters... but if they follow suit Romney-Ryan might as well concede now!!!

Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy. -Ron Paul 7/10/03

This poll

is completely irrelevant and inconsistent. The real numbers with the polls are Gary Johnson takes 5.4% or so with both Obama and Romney included. Mostly these numbers come from people who don't want both, I imagine if Ron Paul doesn't get the Nomination then Gary Johnson's numbers will increase enough to be in the debates. If you are going to write Ron Paul in, if you are polled I think you should say Gary Johnson (if they mention him) because then at least we will have someone on the debate stage to actually inject real ideas, like the drug war or the FED. I will be most likely writing Ron Paul in but I will help a fellow liberty activist get into the debates. If it is just Obama and Romney it won't be a "debate" more like an agreeing festival with only trivial issues being debated or who outsourced more jobs to China, you know stupid personal attacks to just entertain the sheep. Like Gerald Celente says "The Presidential reality show".

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our Liberty. -Thomas Jefferson

That's not the point of this poll.

The point is to show that by the same standard - including only one challenger to Obama, that Johnson has sufficient support to be in the debates.

After all, Romney's support is based off of being the only listed challenger.

If a third or fourth challenger were consistently polled and given the same level of FREE media coverage with a mention at every possible opportunity, then his support would not be as high.

The goal here is to show bias in polling and thus bias in the CPD selection criteria.

If they are biased in their criteria, they violate their 501(c)(3) status!!

This is about an "angle" to get Johnson into the debates.