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Despair: 38 US Soldiers Killed *Themselves* This Month, An All Time High

[ The Army Times: ] - The Army experienced a record 38 suicides in July, the highest monthly total since the service began releasing monthly figures in 2009.

According to an Army report, 26 active-duty soldiers and 12 Army National Guard or Army Reserve members were suspected of or confirmed to have died by suicide.

The soldiers included a 21-year-old air traffic controller who shot himself in his Fort Wainright, Alaska, barracks; a 26-year-old captain who died at an indoor firing range in Virginia, and a 29-year-old sergeant who had deployed four times to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Three soldiers died at their own hands on deployment, and 13 had deployed at least once. But nine had never seen combat, according to the Army.

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Will Obamneycare provide this spray for all of us?

It may become useful in the near future.

Our servicemen and women

Our servicemen and women deserve proper treatment, which they often do not receive.

The anti-depressant list of many patients; Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac, Lexapro, etc it goes on through the whole list of about 12. The FDA (Food & Drug Administration) reported that antidepressant dangers caused a whole bunch of very bad adverse side effect including anxiety, depression, addiction, severe withdrawal, homicidal rage and suicide. These PTSD Veterans don’t need these adverse effects on top of PTSD.

PTSDcannot be cured but managed is to recognize that combat is often a life-changing experience. You can't undo the past, but you can understand and adjust to it, and move on. Let's call it, Post Traumatic Growth. Keep a strong line of communication and support open and find a good counselor for them. It also helps to keep in touch with service buddies. Talking to someone who can understand and knows what you are going through can help immensely. Our returning vets need support, let us all find a way to help them in whatever way we can!

US Army grants $3 million for anti-suicide nasal spray research

If the nasal spray is proven effective, soldiers in crisis or those taking other antidepressants would also be given TRH.

“The phase directly after starting an antidepressant is a very vulnerable time frame in a patient’s life,” Dr. Ken Duckworth, medical director for the National Alliance on Mental Illness, told The Daily. “The nasal spray would stabilize them right away, while they wait for the [antidepressants] to do their job.”


It's hard

...being the enemy of good.

Or in the case of the American soldier, working for the enemy of good.

What does it offer?

Sure you get to wear death symbols and glorify killing and have very good equipment to kill people with.

But the lies are so deep, and at the bottom of these lies, where conscience crys out, there is nothing.

And the medals, the "honor" and all that become worthless earthly trinkets.

And your soul bleeds to death.

I was thinking

about this very thing recently. THEY use our soldiers never realizing that putting human beings in such situations is psychologically damaging. A dreadful kind of blowback.

Health Experts Question Army Report on Psychological Training

Veterans and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Support Our Troops

What an empty slogan for the masses. The masses think that phrase means sending them off to fight the evil Jihadists or third-world communists.

Ron Paul was the only candidate that supported the troops. He would defend their benefits, but most importantly, he'd bring them home, out of harm's way, and provide an example of Liberty to which they could rally and feel good about being an American soldier.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

I was under the impression that the rate was 18 soldiers a day.

I've heard the 18/day statistics from various sources - one being Dr. Paul. Can someone clarify this for me?

Yes, approx. 18 veterans a day..

As there are plenty of sources, and as you mentioned, Dr. Paul HAS mentioned this as well. Also, the comment below is correct in that this article is NOT including ALL veterans. It appears to only speak of active duty and guard for the Army only. 18 veterans committing suicide every day is a very sad statistic, but sadly very true as well: http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/jan/26/...

The statistic was confirmed in a Dec. 15, 2007 email exchange between Dr. Ira R. Katz, deputy chief officer of Mental Health Services at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, and Dr. Michael J. Kussman, then the under secretary for health at the Veterans Health Administration, which is part of the VA.

The statistic was cited in a CBS News investigation that revealed 6,200 veterans committed suicide in 2005.

When Kussman, a retired Army brigaider general, asked Katz in an email if reports by a media organization about the statistic were accurate, Katz responded: "There are about 18 suicides per day among America’s 25 million veterans. This follows from CDC (Centers for Disease Control) findings that 20% of suicides are among veterans.

The VA said in an emailed statement that the actual numbers of veteran suicides isn’t known, but considers the statistic of an average of 18 per day its best estimate.

(Even worse, it appears it's probably even more than 18 if this is the "best" estimate they can come up with.)

De criminalize Liberty!

I also

have heard this. The article talks about active duty service men. Maybe that number is from all vets rather then just active duty.

Can someone on here please explain

why someone asks a legitimate question and they are getting down voted???
Instead of down voting - why not actually contribute to the site and provide some answers.

Makes me wonder

if it is something other than suicide. If something major is going down they may be eliminating individuals who may interfere are in the know of things that they do not want leaked.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

The same Thought Crossed My Mind

"Suicides" are a favored way to eliminate opposition.

The way that the government treats veterans is so bad in so many ways, no one in their right mind should join up. If the source of manpower dried up then these militaristic adventures around the world would have to stop.

"The more laws we make, the more snares we lay to entrap ourselves."
- Sir Francis Bacon, Nov. 1, 1601

Vaccine induced mental disease.

Eliminating any nutritional pr mineral deficiencies may help.

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Support a Soldier. Give them a chance.

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"But nine had never seen combat, according to the Army."

To me, that sounds like hazing of new soldiers by bitter brutal experienced ones. The frustration many soldiers feel from long deployment may be diverted onto newcomers. It is a difficult situation to handle since low ranking officers are afraid to discipline the old soldiers - the former would be killed by soldiers at the first opportunity in a battle...

You are very correct

There was a lot of issues with "trust" games going on - serveral soldiers ended up accidentally killing fellow soldiers due to this. Most people view the military old school - like knights of the round table. Not so - it is a place they teach you hurt maim and kill - and the better you are - the more reveared you are. The pecking order is very much a part of life there.

First question you always get - what was your MOS. When you say and 03 number - you get respect. 02 - you get looks. Others- you get "wus". And even all these years later I am still so ingrained that I fell I need to make it known I was 0311(the indocrination is strong and us A type personalities just don't change easliy - lol)

The reality is that these we have a very unique situation in our history - you have junior officers coming in with one lone ribbon on their chest - the red and yellow national defense ribbon. They are going down a line where the SSGT has a chest full of ribbons and a boat load of stripes down the lower sleave. The SSGT has spent 3,4,5 who knows how many tours in combat zones. The SGT is decked out too, the corporal may be missing some lower stripes - but still has to take 3 hours to set up his dress uniform with all those ribbons. It used to be you might have a couple of old salty dogs to deal with(watch Heartbreak Ridge) as that junior commander - now you have entire plattoons - hell even many of the "lowly" pfc and lance corporals might have a tour or two under their belts. It makes it very hard on the leadership to lead.

For those who have never been through the military(ESPECIALLY infantry units) - it is a 24/7 game of who is the king of the mountain. I didn't serve during war time - I can only imagine it must be 1000 times worse now. And when they have chests full of medals/ribbons and you have your one little red and yellow. When you have never seen a dead person - never mind being the one resposible for that death. Sorry, but that lonely little silver bar doesn't mean shit. It is very hard to maintain "law and order". You are new to a unit and you are trying to prove yourself against guys who have been in combat, lost friends, killed enemies, have battle scars and you want to get up that pecking order - it is very hard.

On the other side you all have to realize something as well. Suicide attempts in Marine Corp boot camp have always been common. I was there in 92 - they were flush with people - only taking "good" ones - and we still had five guys try to off themselves(some more dertermined than others). I can only imagine with standards being lowered how much more common this is. I can also imagine with them freely dispensing phyc meds like candy that it has not helped either.

I know I am preaching to the choir on here - but this country needs to stop its romanticizing of the military. It is an ugly business.

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For the record...

The old knighthood was exactly the same. The rules of "honor" etc meant very specific things that we would not recognize as such today. For instance, it was honorable to assist a Lady, but perfectly within the knight's right to rape a peasant girl.

We over romanticize both history and war which is a big reason why we keep falling for the same crap.

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psych meds

is one major cause

Psych Meds ...

... is likely the cause.

These are apparently given to get "compliance". The side effect is suicide or murder. Small price to pay for "compliance", eh?

psych meds

kill. there aren't studies that back their claims to help. but the media wouldn't report on this.

So sad!

What do they all have in common? Combat, training or a medical profession that relies solely on chemical treatments- for any and every diagnoses.

Bring our troops home and stop poisoning them. THIS IS NO WAY TO TREAT OUR HEROES!


(Sarcasm)- Nothing bad could ever come of this, right?

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For those that believe you have to see combat to be a murderer..

"But nine had never seen combat, according to the Army."

They knew better.

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