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Fmr. Marine Arrested By FBI For Patriotic Facebook Posts! Share Everywhere!

Just in on the Josh Tolley Show. Interview with mom. He talked about how the Govt. lies. Was not read his rights; sent to a psych hospital.

http://youtu.be/YaE5zChbC5w

Arrest video below:

http://youtu.be/c-57PzLmHp8

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Wrong Information

This is dangerously wrong information. If an arrest warrant is issued, citing probable cause to suspect someone has committed a crime, which warrant is signed by a judge, while executing the warrant you must be informed of your rights. One right is the right to remain silent, if you choose to give up this right, anything you say can be used against you in a court of law. If anything is said to the police during the arrest, it is written in the police report which can be used in a court of law, along with the testimony of the officer(s).

Miranda vs Arizona: read it..

Ernesto Miranda was arrested, identified by the victim, and later charged with kidnapping & sexual assault in Phoenix, Arizona (1963). On appeal the suppreme court ruled that Miranda's 5th and 6th amendment rights were violated giving us new case law (Miranda vs Arizona). The purpose of this case law is to ensure that noone is arrested/detained and then asked to incriminate themselves withought first being made aware of thier rights. The only gray area in a Mirnada defense would be, "when did the detention begin?" Detention is defined by; when the suspect is no longer free to leave. You don't have to be in hand cuffs to be detained or no longer free to leave. In a non custodial interview the Miranda rights do not have to be read. However, if you start to incriminate yourself in a non custodial interview it then becomes the responsibilty of the investigating officer to stop the interview and inform you of your rights. There is NO case law that states that someone has to be Mirandized as they are being arrested for a warrant or otherwise. I don't know where you are getting this information but I can only assume you've been watching to much Law & Order. It makes for good television when an arresting officer starts rattling off the Miranda warning as they are putting on the hand cuffs. Please read the actual case law and understand it so that if you find youself in this situation you don't go on the news or social network sites like DP claiming "False arrest! I wasn't read my right." Even in a good Miranda defense it doesnt invalidate the arrest, it's just a defense to prosecution in that your statements can not be used against you in court if the court rules in your favor in a suppression hearing siting a Miranda violation.

Law and liberty cannot rationally become the objects of our love, unless they first become the objects of our knowledge.

James Wilson

Three Different Issues

If you are being arrested, you can't leave. Anything you say to a police officer can be recorded and used against you in a court of law.

If you are being detained for questioning, you should always ask if you are free to leave. If you are not free to leave, you are under arrest. You have the right to remain silent...

You are correct, Miranda cannot be used to invalidate an otherwise lawful arrest.

You are correct

The issue is, when does the arresting officer have to Mirandize you? This is where the misunderstanding is occurring. The arresting officer does not have to Mirandize you. In more cases than not the arrested party is never Mirandized by the arresting officer. We in the Liberty movement shouldn't care about these sorts of technicalities anyway. The Miranda warning was not created by our founding fathers. Our founding fathers expected us to learn and cherish our rights. We should not require or ask a government official to inform us of the rights that we hold dear. If we truely expect to be free than we have to educate ourselves. Ernesto Miranda was a nasty individual who violated a young Womans right to her own body. And because of a technicallity his confession was suppressed. I don't need to use his legacy to fight for my freedoms. I know my rights because they are my rights.. Thanks for the debate UASTUDY. This is how we learn.

Law and liberty cannot rationally become the objects of our love, unless they first become the objects of our knowledge.

James Wilson

Please research further

You are way off. You have been watching too much law and order.

Law and liberty cannot rationally become the objects of our love, unless they first become the objects of our knowledge.

James Wilson

9/11 Firefighter eyewitness video Brandon posted before arrest:

https://www.facebook.com/brandon.raub/posts/452454134795184

Dozens and dozens of witnesses to multiple explosions before and after the planes hit, and explosions in the lobbies, basements, and lower floors.

Mods, can you replace with the correctly rotated video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-57PzLmHp8

And curious as to why y'all don't want to put this on the front page. Seems odd.

He should have shot the FBI

He should have shot the FBI officials when they tried to arrest him.

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Truth is treason

in the empire of lies, and that is what we have here. The Devil owns this place, stand for God, like this man. Most importantly, stand!!!! They are probably reading this post as we speak, keep that in mind.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Amen Brother tog

Keep those prayers going upward all you of faith!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Yes, stand!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Yakl_xIkc

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

This is a great friend of mine...

I served alongside Brandon both in Iraq and in Afghanistan. He was in my combat engineer platoon in Iraq in 2006 and in Afghanistan 2011

Brandon was the man who opened my eyes to the slow hemorrhaging of civil rights in America and the extreme and purposeful devaluation of the dollar.

Whether you agree with his method or mode of expressing himself is erroneous. He has broken no laws and hurt no one.

He needs to be released or charged with a crime. This is a very scary path to an extreme Big Brother state. Please sign the petition to free Brandon.

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-president-of-the-united-...

Sic Semper Tyrannus

you know the fact he was

you know the fact he was arrested . I think proves his own points. At that point i would be telling the fbi/gov. I think you proved me correct just for the fact you are big brother! I rest my case! The roman empire(us gov) trying to breath it's last gasp of tyranny!

Ron Paul 2016

I agree

No crime, let him go. If there is no crime, then interaction with "authorities" should last no longer than 20 minutes at the most.

Am I being detained?
Am I under arrest?
Am I free to go?

If your Sheriff has to abide by it, then the feds most certainly have to abide by it.

Tragic

We're witnessing a serious malfunction of government here, whomever they work for....Wrong on every level!

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—H.G. Wells, The New World Order (1939)

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Mods, this is important. He is most likely a fellow DP'er and

we need to show our support by making it first post on front page.

I agree

Brandon showed me the liberty movement. We owe Brandon for having the courage to speak out when the overwhelming majority won't!!

Sic Semper Tyrannus

WTF?

Can you say "Communism"? The SHIT is getting DEEP! Where are you Ron Paul?

This is bizarre...

from his facebook wall:

Brandon J Raub
The Revolution will come for me. Men will be at my door soon to pick me up to lead it. ;)
Share · Tuesday at 6:15pm ·

And he gives his address telling them to come get him

unless that was removed, but it was up earlier. I think it was posted yesterday and they took him early evening yesterday.

I saw it too

Not that he doesn't have a right to - but when you combine all of his posts together, one 'could' get the feeling he might be on the verge. From what I got out of it, it was like watching someone when they become "awake"... like when that airline pilot ran down the isle.

I feel so bad for him and his family. His poor mom!

The verge of what?

So, just because someone writes something a little strong we should handcuff them and take them into custody for questioning?

No. If they want to legally keep an eye on him, and not interfere in his Liberties in any way, then so be it.

But to come to his house and take him away in handcuffs, while not being arrested, is not right. What is the crime? He hasn't committed any, or they would arrest him, and read him his Rights.

This is the government saying we are to serve them, and any time they have a problem with us, we are going to the principal's office.

That is not right.

Woodrow Wilson and Unfree Speech

In 1917, Woodrow Wilson signed the Espionage Act. Title One, Section Three makes it a crime during wartime to, 1.) to willfully make false statements to interfere in the operation of the military 2.) to try to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, refusal of duty 3.) to obstruct enlistment into the service of the United States. The penalty is a $10,000 fine or up to 20 years in prison or both.

This is the same Woodrow Wilson who gave us the Federal Reserve Act and the 16th amendment.

In treating a veteran like this, it's our own government

officials who will likely deter enlistment.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

The definition of legally

The definition of legally watching someone is now watching them in a cell in Guantanamo.

Bump for Front Page!

Take off General Motors if you have to make room :-)

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

Double bump

Why is this no longer on top recent

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