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I am done with Adam Kokesh.

Just received an email from AVTM where he actually has the nerve to tell Dr.Paul that HE is the one holding us back. That HIS events, that HE planned in Tampa were inconsiderate of events that others have planned.

That self centered prick thinks that anything he has done or will ever do will even come close to what Ron Paul has accomplished. Not even the same league, you celebrity searching sellout punk!!

What a fraud!



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I support Adam 100%.

I support Adam 100%.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

I like Adam most of the time.

I like Adam most of the time. I don't like him when he's crying about Rand Paul or Ron Paul. We aren't all going to get along but as long as we keep bulldosing in the same general direction, its cool.

I just wish people could contain their panicy conspiracy's about Ron & Rand and the campaign until after Tapma. We won't know until then if they had a plan or not. If it turns out they didn't and it was all a big floppy dick, its not like we could have saved the election anyway by teaming up with Alex Jones and accusing Ron Paul of being a reptillian from Nebru hell bent on world conquest for his Illuminati masters.

Either Paul is playing it smart with a plan that isn't common knowledge and we should keep the @#$% out of his way and stop mucking things up by causing panic and disheartening the movement... or not. You may as well hope its the former and act accordingly, because if its the latter, there's nothing you can do to save the election, and you're only causing division and problems until after Tampa.

I don't like Adam most of the time.

but i agree with your sentiment for sure, well said. +1

Adam Kokesh Rocks!

... did yah hear me? Adam Kokesh rocks!

Plano TX

Adam's pointing out that...

...at least 2 of the 3 'official' campaign events were orchestrated well AFTER THE FACT that P.A.U.L Fest and Adam's Veteran's March for Ron Paul(TRUE grassroots events) gained some major steam. The campaign wants to 'make nice' with the school yard bully. And dividing our numbers as often and as much as possible during the convention will surely guarantee our efforts will be ignored by the world, yet again.
I agree with Adam. We're a week away. Not a peep from the good Dr. in how long(regarding the convention, strategy, explanations for the campaign's self-destructive tactics, etc.)? I love Ron Paul as much as anybody, but some people need to wake the fuck up and realize he's not the messiah. The 'passing off of the reins' has been horribly sloppy at best Dr. Paul. We love you for your principle and conviction, political peace-making be damned. Now we're supposed to be satisfied with the crumbs the establishment wants to throw at us? Nope. Not me.

Who would you rather see? Lew Rockwell, Tom Woods, and Aimee Allen(smokin'!),
or
Rand Paul and Jack Hunter?

My guess is the official Paul event will fill to capacity when Ron takes the stage, and empty out when Rand and Jack make the scene. Or that would be my hope. The grassroots is where the action is at, and grassroots organizers and participants need and deserve our support.

the fact is

adam has spread the message of liberty further than all the haters in this thread combined. love him or hate him the facts are the facts. the fact is adam is not perfect.

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another fact is

Ron Paul has spread the message of liberty further than all the hate spewed about him recently on Adam Kokesh's shows. Love Ron Paul or hate him the facts are the facts. The fact is Ron Paul is not perfect.

As you suggest below about someone expressing an opinion against Kokesh (stalking), perhaps Kokesh is mentally ill.

I am in awe of your skillz...

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

mentally ill... good

mentally ill... good tactic... just like Brandon Raub right!

Look, when you throw baseless accusations around it really makes you no better than the lying scum that currently rule us.

I agree...

MMJ Ministry should refrain from insinuating that people have mental problems because they don't like Kokesh.

It sounds like you think I was accusing somebody of being mental ill. I was being facetious about MMJ doing it.

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

you're projecting

i never accused BSΩ of being mental ill. i pointed out the fact that he has been stalking all the adam kokesh post around here for quite a while now. check it out for yourself or just ask around.

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Haha...

Further down in the comments where you accuse BurningSirius of stalking you whip out the link to wikipedia's entry for "stalking" which describes stalking as an obsessive personality and social disorder.

THEN you deny you accused BurningSirius of a mental disorder and turn right around and accuse me of a mental disorder -- projecting. :D

WhaEVA!! *chicken necks*

Who's the one projecting?

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

Well

Love MMJ Ministry. Love your enemies. Sorry, it gets easy to lash out. I realized this as I was in the middle of something.

In the end, you have to take it. I am not above my Master. Whatever MMJ dishes out at me, if my Master took it, I can take it as well.

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Sure...

But MMJ is still being high-larious... :>

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

Thanks

That was really the last straw for MMJ Ministry for me. I was just warning the OP that if Adam logs in and makes a stupid comment, ignore it. You will be all the better for it.

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May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace
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Oh, I see where you were coming from now.

I thought you were calling Kokesh mentally ill.

I'm glad he is around to call out the campaign, especially when the campaign finds itself in the pathetic place it is. I don't think we should stand buy and accept the incompetence that is coming from the campaign.

That being said, Kokesh definitely has his faults too... but if you were only allowed to critique things if you were perfect then none could do it.

"celebrity searching sellout punk... fraud" ?

Adam Kokesh is an ally to the liberty movement, and he loves Ron Paul as much as you and I. You can tell he was genuinely sad/depressed and disappointed when he read his letter. You can tell he felt let down.

I disagree when Adam says that Ron Paul is letting it happen, as I believe the campaign staff is the one fumbling the ball, and in turn giving Ron bad advice.

Either way, calling Adam Kokesh a sellout punk and fraud is way overboard. His concerns are valid as it represents the same sentiment a lot of us feel.

atreidies --- Ron Paul is not a Gawd and should NOT be treated

as one. That means, SPEAKING your mind to Ron Paul. This is RESPECT. This is telling him what you believe and think and being HONEST with your opinion, not withholding it.

FYI, before running in 2007, Ron Paul contacted some Arizona patriots who had started the R3VOLution. He wanted to know what we thought, we said go for it, we'll back you 100%. He had been to our FreedomSummit several times and we knew his speeches. He said he would say the same thing, no holding back.

And Ron Paul does this NOT NEARLY enough. The fact that Adam told Ron Paul that, is 100% cool with me. Trust me, Ron Paul is big enough to both listen and think about it. But, Ron has made up his mind and the decision has been made. If anything, Adam could be a bit curious to learn the back story as to why Ron Paul chose to go it alone. Perhaps it was control of the venue, who knows.

But the more freedom events, THE BETTER. I can recall being just one of a dozen people in April 15th 1980 protesting the Income Tax. Now, its hundreds come tax day. The more events we do, the BETTER.

More is good. So don't fret.

Treg

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Update on the Veterans March:

http://www.dailypaul.com/250017/veterans-march-update

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sorry - but no friend of liberty goes on that rant

RP IS the Tea Party, Ron Paul IS the liberty movement. HE walked throught the valley of death, he has come throught the other side as pure as the day he started.

Sorry - I just don't want some pot head wanna be representing the liberty party I believe in. Guys like him LOSE us credibility - yeh - taking hits off your bong during your show is real cool - to eigth graders that is.

sorry - but no friend of liberty goes on that rant

RP IS the Tea Party, Ron Paul IS the liberty movement. HE walked throught the valley of death, he has come throught the other side as pure as the day he started.

Sorry - I just don't want some pot head wanna be representing the liberty party I believe in. Guys like him LOSE us credibility - yeh - taking hits off your bong during your show is real cool - to eigth graders that is.

Please tell me that you are

Please tell me that you are kidding. Because if you are not kidding, you are in for a huge disappointment when you realize that Ron Paul is just a human being like all of us. He is not a God. He is not someone that you should worship. He is NOT the Tea Party. He might be one of the individuals that is responsible for the Tea Party existing in the first place. From what I understand, the tea party now consists of several factions and one of those factions is pretty much controlled by the neocon GOP/RNC. The Tea Party endorsed Rick Santorum! We all need to stop being sheep and all become shepards (sp?). We all need to be what we wished or wanted Ron Paul to be or to say. It is up to every one of us to make our tomorrow be what we want it to be. Be responsible by taking responsibility for ourselves. It is time for the sheep to kill the wolf instead of waiting for the shepard to come and save us.

Larry in North Carolina
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!

NO not kidding - and never said he was a god

He DID start the Tea Party - and yes - it was taken over. Why - because of idiots like this - make complete asses of the liberty movement so the average citizen equates liberty with pot head losers.

And I never said I was waiting for some damn sheppard - I said this idiot hurts our cause - and it does - plain and simple. And I said he is wrong for going off on RP - and I stand by that as well.

The world is full of people like you - can't take direction, know everthing, the boss is so stupid - yeh - I here it all day long from guys like you that seemingly cant rub two nickels together to make a dime - yet know everything. Of course you know more than Ron - he just happened to have gone out and actually accomplished something with his life. He just spent 30 years fighting the cause - hey but this asshole did spent 1500 bucks on a computer and a microphone (and probably just as much on drugs) - so he certainly is on par now right???

You start by saying: "NO not

You start by saying: "NO not kidding - and never said he was a god" Really? This is what you said about the man: "RP IS the Tea Party, Ron Paul IS the liberty movement. HE walked throught the valley of death, he has come throught the other side as pure as the day he started." You are so right, you never called him a God, but you are trying to make him look like or seem to be like Moses! He is not a God and he is (in my opinion) not another Moses. Then you go on another rant about people who smoke pot (which I do not do), all the while supporting a politician who supports the right of people who choose to smoke pot?

You wrote: "He DID start the Tea Party - and yes - it was taken over. Why - because of idiots like this - make complete asses of the liberty movement so the average citizen equates liberty with pot head losers."

I have no idea if he started the TP or not, but the point is that the damned TP did not support RP, and instead, they supported the one individual who attacked RP more than anyone else on the stage. They supported Rick Santorum, the biggest piece of human excrement on the stage…again, that is just my opinion.

Next you wrote: "And I never said I was waiting for some damn sheppard - I said this idiot hurts our cause - and it does - plain and simple. And I said he is wrong for going off on RP - and I stand by that as well."

No, you did not specifically say that you were waiting for a Shepard, but your way of describing Dr. Paul seem to suggest that you see him as more than a man, more than a human being. You see him as…well, we've already covered that.

Then you went on to a more personal attack with the following: "The world is full of people like you - can't take direction, know everthing, the boss is so stupid - yeh - I here it all day long from guys like you that seemingly cant rub two nickels together to make a dime - yet know everything. Of course you know more than Ron - he just happened to have gone out and actually accomplished something with his life. He just spent 30 years fighting the cause - hey but this asshole did spent 1500 bucks on a computer and a microphone (and probably just as much on drugs) - so he certainly is on par now right???"

I highly doubt that the world is full of people like me. What makes you think that you know anything about me? So apparently, anyone who disagrees with you about anything, anything at all:

1. Cannot take direction. So what you are basically saying is that one of the many things that makes you so angry is that more people will not or do not listen to you.

2. Know everything. I do not know everything. In fact, I have come to the conclusion that nobody really knows anything. Myself included.

3. The boss is so stupid. Sometimes the boss was stupid. Which is why I have been self-employed for most of my adult life. And even then…sometimes the boss is stupid.

4. "I here it all day long from guys like you that seemingly cant rub two nickels together to make a dime - yet know everything." So what you are saying is that you do not enjoy your job and that again, guys like me cannot rub two nickels together to make a dime. Apparently I could, or how else would I have been able to be self employed? Perhaps the "guys like you" thing is just a way to describe all the people in the world that you dislike or disapprove of. My question/suggestion for you is as follows: Maybe all these individuals that you so strongly dislike are just mirrors for you. And you so strongly dislike what you see, that you live in a perpetual world of anger and disapproval. My suggestion is to seek a really good counselor. And to let go of the pain and to let your healing begin. Be well.

Larry in North Carolina
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!

Adam isn't Perfect, but

Adam isn't Perfect, but neither is the campaign. And the fact that the campaign is to incompetent to work with grassroots to have a coherent unifying party... in this case I stand with the grassroots and against the campaign. The campaign has shown over and over again that they inferior to the grassroots when it comes to... really anything.

Adam needs to understand

He's valuable and fighting for what's right. However, as someone who's run for office he should know that occasionally you have to cut ties, sometimes momentarily and sometimes forever. If Ron has a chance to win he can't give the media fuel to say. Ron Paul hangs out with pot smoker, Ron Paul hangs out with person who contemplated the assassination of Romney ect, ect.

In each battle there are wounded, some recover and some don't. what you need to know Adam is that you fought and should continue to fight for the only man who will make your wounds worth while.

lulz..... Kokesh's Facebook:

Adam Kokesh
Fuck all you haters saying I smoke too much weed and DMT to be of any use to "your freedom movement." How many independent liberty media operations did you turn into successful businesses this year? How many people did you wake up?

Wonderful table manners.

https://twitter.com/#!/Agonzo1

Talmud coming thru'

I wonder who owns the media???

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

bingo

not widely known.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Hmm

"How many independent liberty media operations did you turn into successful businesses this year? How many people did you wake up?"

....how many people did you turn off with your uncivilized behavior?

....how much have you contributed to dividing the movement with your attacks on the Pauls and the campaign?

....how big is your ego to claim to speak for all of us?

....what happened to the Kokesh we all liked?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

huh

He never once "attacked" Ron Paul...?

Where in the paragraph did he claim, or even insinuate, to speak for all of us... ?