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Ron Paul’s Behavior Towards P.A.U.L. Fest is Bizarre

http://libertychat.com/ron-pauls-behavior-towards-p-a-u-l-fe...

If all Ron Paul had to do to win the White House was plug P.A.U.L. Fest, he’d turn down the White House. The organizers have done everything they can to get Ron Paul to take a minute out of his time to send a mass email, or create a quick youtube video on behalf of P.A.U.L. Fest, but he hasn’t.

What’s weird about this is that he’s reached out to the organizers privately, giving them words of encouragement. Yet he won’t come out publicly. Some say it’s because there are a lot of tricky laws that the campaign has to deal with. Fine, if that’s the case, state that and I’m sure the organizers would understand. He has not said anything like that. Also Jesse Benton has said several times that they won’t be part of any event where they don’t control the tone/message.

So why won’t Ron Paul come out publicly in support of P.A.U.L. Fest? Let us know what you think. Vote in our poll @ http://libertychat.com/ron-pauls-behavior-towards-p-a-u-l-fe...

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Yea.
Paul called to tell them to STOP! and they continued.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

what's bizarre is

that you would post what would seem to be personal info about Paul reaching out privately, offering encouragement, to organizers. Privately, imho, does not include broadcasting that info to the world, especially if there is any doubt about tricky campaign laws.

"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself within" W. Durant

Nothing suprising though..

Everyone at that "Liberty" chat is suspect. Their mentor is a professional scam artist. They're getting a first class course on how to steal, scam, data mine, bilk old ladies, etc..etc.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

thank you

he tells them something in private and they use it to defend themselves in public.
This is "Their" r3volution, not Ron Pauls.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Not bizarre at all, IMO.

Bizarre would be to endorse an uncontrolled message/gathering after having his public image burned to cinders with the uncontrolled message of those 1960s/70s newsletters.

Bizarre? No. Cautious/savvy? Yes.

Let's all hope that his caution is unwarranted, and that all those who attend or present at P.A.U.L. fest understand and support the principles of liberty without ulterior motives.

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Pauls hands are too clean.
He will not associate himself with forces unknown to him personally, at this stage of the game.
As Paulfest keeps saying, "it is not about Ron Paul, its about liberty"... so do it with out Ron. Every day there is another thread of someone from Paulfest crying, when they never even sought the approval from Dr. Paul for this in the first place, and took it upon themselves to steal his name and his venue.
When one is not consulted and their name is used for an event or ANYTHING, that is STEALING, no matter the intention and also immoral.
Especially a name is great as Dr. Pauls, cuts even deeper, because he is very protective of his name. hence the distance yuou feel.
How did you expect him to react when you never consulted, just went on with your plans??/ You think he would tell you he was upset and you spoiled his campaigns plans leading up to the convention??lol
How did you think he would react when you have other candidates on the same stage as him, and they have dirty hands, and its called PAULFEST????
And to say he has "reached out" to give support is a MISLEAD!
He has given EXPLICIT directions to his real supporters what to do from the moment we arrive at the convention till we leave.

No where does Dr. Paul give instructions to visit any other venue.
he has provided his own rally and that is the one Paul supporters should be at.
and NO WHERE else.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

You have tried to disparage

You have tried to disparage this event from the beginning, sadly.

In 2008, Dr. Paul's supporters would never have IMAGINED asking him for his PERMISSION to promote his message and use his name. There are MULTIPLE groups and organizations who have events connected to his name or even sell products with his name, and no one says a thing.

We are NOT being misleading by saying he has "reached out" to show his support. In fact, he has contacted us via phone MULTIPLE times to tell us that he supports what we are doing. He has ALSO said that he is considering doing a video to show his support, and to continue to encourage the r3VOLution in our tasks before us.

YOU KNOW NOTHING about what's going on at P.A.U.L. Festival and its organization, so please stop pretending you do.

You have tried hard to make sure we know nothing about it too...

Why?.....Robby Wells WILL be speaking at the SCAM FEST after repeated denials since June that they didn't even know who he was . I know who he is ....A con artist. And he make the lot of you look like con artists. The event has enough legitimate speakers to make it a success. It is nothing NEAR what it could had should have been. You continue to think you speak for the grassroots Ron Paul supporters and it is offensive. Keep fighting your fight some of us don't like you allowing scammers to operate through you to deceive us.

Full disclosure

As your tagline implies that you are affiliated with paulfestival.org and "revolutiontravelmanagement," you might hesitate before making personal attacks.

Do you stand to make any money or expect future career benefits of some kind from the event? Never mind. We get it.

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You did not address the fact that his name was usurped.
"Paulfest" usurped his name during HIS convention, with out even telling him... days before HIS big showdown???lol.
admit it and stop trying to make yourself feel good.
The proof is in the pudding and he has not endorsed Paulfest, was not asked, has made his own venue and has never told anyone publicly to visit "paulfest". In fact he then created his own rally on a thin budget I know he did not expect to have.
In fact he has gone out of his way to give explicit directions to his supporters that go to Tampa, and Paulfest was LEFT out of that itinerary. He said to "sign wave" welcoming the delegates, on down time... NOT go to Paulfest. Then you change the name in the middle of it, making him(yourselves) look even more stupid.

Dont be mad at me because im telling you the facts and the truth.

Had Ron Paul of been respected enough to be asked for use of his name or even if he agreed with this festival, HE WOULD HAVE SAID NO.

And I dont want to know what is going on behind the scenes at Paulfest, I would only be lied to, all i have to do is look at the proof in front of my eyes, what is happening to it. Its really not hard to figure out.

and im quite certain it has burned someones a$$ because Pauls rally is sold out and paulfest cant give free tickets away at rest stops, and it is JUST DESSERTS.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Ron Paul's rally sold out?

Ron Paul's rally sold out? How much did Ron Paul make selling out all those tickets. Zero dollars because he had to give them away for free this time compared to 4 years ago when he did charge for tickets.

PAUL Fest on the other hand was able to charge money for their tickets, yes they ended up offering a free ticket with every ticket purchased due to Ron and Rand Paul tarnishing the Paul name like they have the past months endorsing POS neocons like Mitt Romney and sabotaging campaigns, but then PAUL Fest had no control over those pathetic actions. Yet you want blame PAUL Fest for Rand's and Ron Paul's actions. Please.

Ron Paul and his campaign staff have been inconsiderate a-holes when it comes to the liberty movement and their events. I can say that because I'm not associated with PAUL Fest or Ron Paul's campaign. More importantly, Ron Paul loss my vote, because I don't support douche bags which Ron Paul has proven himself to be. Right along with his douche bag campaign staff and POS son who will be endorsing Romney at the RNC convention. Apparently turning down offers of endorsing Romney isn't something Rand Paul would consider but Ron Paul turning down offers to what the liberty movement does is easy for this supposed liberty minded candidate.

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This, People, is the type that is running paulfest.

BEWARE!

unfortunately little twitty, i hope someone kicks your disrespectful teeth down your throat.
oh. i forgot. non violence.

I hope you walk into a baseball bat and kick your own teeth down your throat.
let me know if it happens please.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

I'm not assiciated with PAUL Fest.

But this people, someone who say's they hope someone kicks my teeth down my throat, this is the type who supports Ron Paul today. Need I say more.

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ha ha.
after what you wrote, People want this for you as well. watch and learn beeach.

Ive copied and sent a copy of what you wrote to the Paul Campaign.
Ive been active with Paul in his district(s), for almost 30 years.
maybe the campaign can figure out who you are and cut you off.
You just blew it.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

You are calling Ron Paul a what??

On this website?

Ann in Florida

You heard me. A douche bag.

I've earned that right, after the money I've donated to his campaign, and the hundreds of hours I've spent supporting this candidate, I'll call Ron Paul whatever name I please.

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ha ha lil twitty.

meltdown for all to see!!!

should be "legalize lil twitty"!
lol

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Because

He has no control over what goes on there and he doesn't want his name attached to it in case something weird happens. He has a legacy to protect. Never the less. Good luck it'll be a good time had by whomever attends.

Keepin' it real.

Well let's see

"So why won’t Ron Paul come out publicly in support of P.A.U.L. Fest?"

"Some say it’s because there are a lot of tricky laws that the campaign has to deal with."

"Also Jesse Benton has said several times that they won’t be part of any event where they don’t control the tone/message."

...are those two reasons not sufficient?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."