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Plea To All Delegates:No Deals!

Complete ShanArchy reacts to recent developments concerning Louisiana delegates that struck a deal with Romney: I remember a time, not too long ago, where WE would be the ones giving HIM 17 delegates and keeping the rest. And, now?

NO MORE COMPROMISING!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj4Y62EzSBY&feature=plcp

http://tinyurl.com/delegatescompromiseronpaul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IqNKhy26fY



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If the RNC wanted to keep the peace at the convention,

they would have allowed RP's 5 state plurality. Now? Anything goes.

Make a deal with Mitt it gets tossed like s***

http://rtr.org/news/1497/mitt-romney-has-already-begun-throw...

"Back in September, during the early days of the heated GOP primary, Mitt Romney threw a bone to the hard right of the party by saying he'd fire Bernanke.

Romney even says he's into the idea of auditing the Fed.

But this is all show. The truth is that Romney is already backtracking, and we know this because on yesterday Romney economic advisor said Bernanke was doing a good job, and that he would warrant consideration for renomination.

There it is!

The hard money people get some toothless lines about gold and auditing the Fed in the party plank. The economic advisor goes on Wall Street TV to say that Bernanke has done a good job and warrants consideration for a third term.

More evidence that for all the talk about tight money and austerity, Romney will likely push to stimulate the economy in every way he can once in office."

edit: we don't have to worry about Mitt doing this because he will never make it to the WH

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

People should know better than to expect anything other

than a bite, coming from a snake.

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I'm probably going to get

I'm probably going to get negged for this, but I'm afraid that The Granger has a point. Some people here seem to believe that if you do not compromise AT ALL, in some way or another the people you do not want to compromise with will suddenly see the light or forced to make way for you in due time, because of your overpowering righteousness. Sorry, but such fairy tales only happen if you are in a position of POWER. Them willing to cut deals doesn't necessarily mean they are in a weaker position. I can easily see us rejecting the deals where in the best case scenario, the RNC gets bad press because of keeping us out. But bad press is momentary and people forget quickly. Soon everything would return to the status quo.

That is not to say that sticking to your guns is bad. Compromising too many times allows oneself to lose sight of your goals. That is the inherent risk when you compromise. There are some instances where it's justified to stick to your guns. But like I stated, these instances are when you are in a position of POWER. So the more appropriate question to ask here is, are we in a position of power?

Agreed

Stay the course - no compromises - ALL DELEGATES AND ALTERNATES NEED TO BE AT SUNDAY'S GOP RECEPTION!!!!

It's CRITICAL to sway as many borderline Delegates as possible, and you can't do that from the Sundome!

UNLESS they figure out how to bus us from Ron's Rally to the Reception and back, I will have to plan on NOT attending the Rally/Dinner, because THIS IS WHAT WE CAME FOR!

"I'll take Ed in the Center square - for the win!"

Rights are like muscles; you must exercise them to keep them fit, or they will atrophy and die.

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Ronald EARNEST Paul Or No One At All!

Was there a ruling on the injunction request

filed by the ME delegates?

I am glad you asked about that.

The temporary injunction was filed in Belfast (District Court), where I live, so I could go to the courthouse and get the latest info.

It was filed on August 17th and denied by the judge the same day. It was appealed in the Belfast Superior court. I went down there and spoke with the clerk who told me it was headed for the State court in Augusta. She was getting it out that day - Monday the 20th.

As far as she knew either the judge would rule on the brief OR schedule a hearing. I am waiting on info from the attorney who filed the brief. He was a RP delegate at our State convention (although he was unable to attend.)

Ron Paul is My President

Thank you for the update!

Please consider starting a new thread when you get more info.

Maine delegates are standing tall

and making NO deals. I have so much respect for them taking NO BS from the Maine Status Quo GOP.

Maine represents the "5th" state.

This is THE dirtiest of the fights.

God Bless them! They are NOT backing down.

Ron Paul is My President

Mr. Nystrom...

...please remind us how the '08 Mass delegation got tricked with some deal-making.

Thanks,
Warren R Kruse

(and front-page this thread too!)

THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
FourWindsTradingPost

Deal...or NO deal.

The GOP acts like this is some kind of game show.

RAND PAUL or NOT AT ALL

I have confidence that they will...

Vote Dr. Ron Paul.
grant

Only deal worth making

is that ALL our delegates be seated at the RNC becuz of all the shenanigans we had to put up with this year!

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

Politics is all about striking deals

The GOP is a BIG tent with many special interests, and if you think that by FORCING others to YOUR way is Liberty, you are sorely mistaken.

Ron Paul cut deals when he accepted "pork", when he accepted that SS check, when he personally goes against what he is standing for, or against, to achieve a benefit that he did not vote for.

Right now, I see on my GOP central committee, the seats are filling up with Palin supporters. They see themselves as uniters, and so they come in talking about liberty but also about security, for their own agenda, as they work to unite the Neocons with the Ron Paul Republicans. This is a winning stratigy. They will get those seats. Whether Palin wins or not, they are looking to the future by making compromises today, that when the achive the majority, will transform into their agenda, where only the strongest among us will be represented.

This is what Ron Paul asked us to do, but it seems too many here who talk about LIBERTY, want to FORCE liberty, which is not liberty.

At it again !

shilling for the Neocons.... Palinquakes...LMAO.....
Funny how the closer the convention gets to being over your true colors start spilling out on the floor for all to see....;)
I expect you will really start dolling out the BS after Monday...lol

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

Why should I wait until Monday?

While you scream THEY'RE STEALING OUR IDEAS!! I'll be there to say, It's Ron Paul's idea and I'm here to remind you.

I never screamed they stole our idea's

but they DID steal an election and therefore are not worthy of any negotiations, compromise OR unity ! They are Trash and should be treated as such and if you stand beside them that makes you dumpster material as well...Dumpster Divers always come out smelling rotten like their surroundings....just look at yourself already for reference... Stinky....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

I think worthiness is a bad

I think worthiness is a bad metric to determine if one wants to enter negotiations or not. Cause it has nothing to do with winning.

I agree that it's bad to compromise too much, but in the end we still have to win a bit more than the opposition. Because if we lose more than they do, they'll get more powerful, while we get weaker.

Now, if sticking to our guns means winning more in the future, I'm all for it. But I'm wondering, how do you envision us winning more battles by zero negotiations this time around? How will this allow us to win more?

OK, i hear what your saying

but you tell me why in the world you would negotiate away duly elected delegates and see that as winning when the "winnings" announced for our losses so far are laughable at best ?
I believe someone had it correct in a previous statement that negotiations take place when both sides are playing by the rules not when the other side has cheated robbed and bullied there way to position.
As for how do we fix things and take over the party?.., my personal opinion is do fight but do not negotiate, let the chips fall where they may, take a step back and let these lunatics continue their suicide mission because that's what they are going to do anyway. Continue to grow the movement and reach out to people and when the dust settles we will win...no need to make deals with people who are destroying themselves...they will just take you down with them....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

They didn't even steal the election

Least you forget Ron Paul is a Republican, eh?

A Republican

THAT STANDS ALONE FROM THE REST...always has...

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

He did

He now has a son that is a senator, people running for congressional seats, commmittee seats and national delegates, which makes him far from alone and why we compromise to stay in the game, where when he was alone, he didn't have to. He wasn't a threat, we are.

Palin's grassroots see it, too bad "Ron Paul's wannabes don't.

Had more done what Ron Paul asked ALL of us to do, we wouldn't have to compromise. But that won't get us down, because we see the goal, and as they change, which they are, it won't be that they are stealing from us, as we will be there to remind them, RON PAUL REVOLUTION is what saved the GOP from fullfilling Obama's wish that it die.

We WILL restore America, no thanks to you!

Ron Paul

has always had a son. A son who is not like Ron Paul and Ron Paul has not endorsed Romney so i'm not sure what you mean when you say "he did" because he still DOES....good luck rubbing shoulders with establishment to get what you want. Fact is, that strategy has been tried for decades and it always turns out the same. We were doing it right a few months ago now things are all but gone, the movement fractured...sorry, i just don't see it happening ESPECIALLY if Romney is elected !

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

It's not about what I want

It's about materializing Ron Paul's message, and we are doing that.

Actually forcing them TO Liberty

is what we're doing and it's completely justified. Socialism in any form should never be tolerated in a Free Nation based on Liberty. People may believe what they want in the privacy of their own homes and may shout it to the roof tops if they like but if they intend on twisting this country into anything other than the original intent.

They are the enemy and in war, sometimes things that are not so pleasant must be done to protect our Freedoms.

I don't really care if that seems unpleasant to the likes of you.

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You're the one who was exposed as a FRAUD

I care very much about the likes of YOU.

I was exposed huh?

Mind pointing out where that happened..

The ONLY fraud here is you and your RichardGilbertImgonnafuckupanychanceopfthedelegatestogetlegalsatifaction crew. lol

Patriot Cell #345,168
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

You know that notorious thread is gone

Sicne you left (which was great because it gave me an opportunity to question Gilbert without your BS) I found Gilbert to be sorely lacking on my own, not long after you left actually.

Welcome back and have fun being Richard Gilbert or maybe you can be Michael Nystrom... hey.. why not be Ron Paul? Go for it.

Freedom to be whoever you want to be LOL

There was nothing on that thread that pointed to me being a

"fraud" and you know it. Yet another baseless accusation from YOU.

Maybe next time, instead of being a gullible fool, you'll listen. I doubt it, but there is always, that chance.

BTW.. I AM Ron Paul.. as are a multitude of people as he is us.

Patriot Cell #345,168
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.