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Plea To All Delegates:No Deals!

Complete ShanArchy reacts to recent developments concerning Louisiana delegates that struck a deal with Romney: I remember a time, not too long ago, where WE would be the ones giving HIM 17 delegates and keeping the rest. And, now?

NO MORE COMPROMISING!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj4Y62EzSBY&feature=plcp

http://tinyurl.com/delegatescompromiseronpaul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IqNKhy26fY

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Not only did I listen

I had my own questions, being that I am a national delegate LISTED on the CA sec of state web page (and why I'm getting letter's from Palin's Earthquake) But you would not let me ask questions because you had Gilbert busy defending himself from your own fraud and mean spirit. Apparently being mean works for you, but it never worked for me.

Still, I never liked the idea of you or anyone being banned, at least not on a blog that claims to be about freedom.

Zhu Ninja, without you, or your mean spirit, did some excellent research, and really laid Gilbert out. You missed, what in my opinion, was one of the best detective jobs ever on the DP.

Your reasons were NOT the reasons Gilbert and his crew lost face here. Another hero was Steve Dickson, OK delegate, who explained that the delegates should be taking it to their counties and states.

I AM NOT Ron Paul, but a Ron Paul Republican, and one of his heirs to carry HIS message in the GOP.

Interesting that you'd use the term

"fraud" yet again knowing that thread is gone and that's the term I used for you, then.

Again, what fraud have I committed? You won't answer because you know there are people here that know exactly what went on then. As long as you're making general statements and say no more, you can't be dragged into the light.

Yes I AM a mean person, when it comes to fake ass people, those that would attempt to usurp my Freedoms and those that would attempt to manipulate things.

You've been known to play games and manipulate so your words are suspect.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

You

posted under a psuedomyn simular to Gilbert's so people thought what they were reading was Gilbert's. Jon posted it in the MOD BOX.

That's an outright lie.

I have one account and this one is it. You're off your rockers.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Perhaps

Perhaps that is all you have today.

At least we both KNOW where we stand.

What a tard.

I'm sure, you believe yourself to be clever and have no idea of the truth.

What the fuck kind of response was that. "Perhaps, that is all you have today" ?

No, that is all I've ever had, ANY DAY. You fucking moron.

and that cryptic last line.. lol

Yeah, I know where I stand. I also know you're an idiot too, so yes, I know where you stand as well, I guess.

Patriot Cell #345,168
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

I know what I saw

and all your cussing and name calling isn't going to change that, but convince me I am spot on.

You know what you saw?

You didn't see shit but some guy you thought was me. That's one of your many problems.. You don't need proof.. You think something is real, therefore, it is. You're totally unaware though that you don't have the cognitive ability to discern your way out of a wet paper bag.

Orrr, you're just flat out lying. I definitely wouldn't put that past you in the slightest. :)

Patriot Cell #345,168
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Yes, I know what I saw

and your insults and name calling continue to convince me that I saw correctly.

So let me get this straight..

My cursing has convinced you of something you were already sure of. If you were really sure, my words wouldn't sway you either way. You can't convince someone further of something they are absolutely sure of to begin with.

I curse about a lot of things, especially, but not limited to, idiots like yourself.

Anybody here can tell, with my personality, that I don't play games. I don't need another screen-name to say what I want to say. I say it just fine with this one. I'm also the kind of guy who has no problem saying what I say to a persons face, either.

So believe what you will.. You're still a moron. I hope that has convinced you yet again. :)

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Yes

It further convinces me.

:)

Right over your head.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

"Stand behind us as we destroy America"

And what do WE get out of that but the SAME crap we have NOW, only progressively worse...

Did the founders join with King George so that they could influence him from within, and if not WHY not...

YES

That's why WE fought France and our presidents BOW to Englands Royalty to this day.

Two tens for a five

Hey Granger, have you got two tens for a five?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7pMYHn-1yA

Depends on your $5

You're $5 in gold? Then yeah.

This has to be the funniest thing you ever wrote

If you honestly believe any of us are going to believe the GOP is BIG TENT... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I've been a Repub for over 30 years and the truth is the GOP only wants those people who are going to conform to it. That's what makes Dr Paul so special - he is a TRUE sovereign individual amongst a cabal of thieves.
Your still a newbie to the GOP and getting a seat on the inside doesn't suddenly make you all-knowing. Trust me, I know what you can say in front of GOPers and what will get you ostracised. I've been watching the game since birth.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

I KNOW it is

I know for a fact that on my committee, we all don't agree on anything, and why we have to take loyalty oaths.

The establishment FORCES EVERYONE to comply (Indepents have no voice, and their choices are FORCED on them by other committees).

Getting a seat on the inside gives me experience that decades on the outside doesn't get.

I can say anything I want to the GOP as long as I remain inside those by-laws.

?

What have you and your committee achived so far ?

BAZZA MAC

I was a guest for a year

I fought very hard, with NO help from the committee, campaining as a Ron Paul Republican, petitioned, was qualified, and though my elected seat does not begin tax until January, I was appointed a seat because they can depend that I'm going to be there.

I have helped one other Ron Paul Republican get a seat without going through what I had to go through, and together, we can help others.

I have voted NO to Library tax, State Park, local tax, state park fees going up, stopped "Laura's Law (putting mentally ill before a judge for forced medication) into taking affect. I've done this in less than a year, plus it enabled me to be a national delegate for Ron Paul (and why I took a seat). I was able to help get liberty candidate Dan Roberts as the nominee for our congressman.

It will enable me to vet issues as I am proposing to stop state parks from removing a group of citizens off their private property, I'm also working on getting funding for a landmark that is falling down.. it goes, so goes the town (this area was on the freedom 21 map saying: If you live here, you won't. So I'm working to stop that from happening).

This week, I will not be at the RNC, as my committee changed the date to saturday, and we have numberous issues being handed to us to support by the CA GOP, some of these issues may not be good for our location and I will address that, also meet Dan Roberts and see what I can do for his campaign.. we'll be talking about our strategy for the November election. I will also find out about my own vetting as a future candidate.

As an activist, all that grassroots work, petitions, resolution, propositiones.. all that winds up before a committee to vote on.. if we vote for it, we put money and power into it, if we don't work against it.

As I said, we all don't agree, not everyone wants a constitution, or wars, or religion, or liberty, or corporate control or union control, or property rights or federal rights... we are all individuals, the neocons were Democrats.

Ron Paul has given the Libertarian Party a chance to become mainstream. It's the best deal of my political life and I my only regret is not stepping up to the plate in 07.

Libertarian party?

WHAT?

Absolutely

You can take the Libertarians out of the LP, but you can't take the LP out of the Libertarians, even if they join the GOP.

Like Ron Paul, I know where my heart is, it's just the LP ain't gonna go anywhere, it was designed to fail.

Oh I agree with that.

You are absolutely right.

The fight is for control of the GOP.

Cheating, Thieving,Lying, Bullying, Shyster politics - "normal"?

You don't deal with cheats, thieves, liars, bullies and other like shysters. Those descriptions about sum up the elements in the GOP that have done every illegal or immoral thing possible to smother the Ron Paul campaign. Granger's post simply ignores this aspect - perhaps because Granger thinks this sort of thing is "normal" in politics? Well - if it is accepted (by Granger et al?) as "normal" then it shows us the desperate trouble we are in.

You don't think it's normal politics?

Ron Paul isn't THE exception?

Got proof?

It is normal politics, but the statement in the original reply..

is still true.

If they are going to lie, cheat and steal you make it as expensive and personally embarassing for them to do so as possible. But do it with class and style, not yelling and screaming.

That's why you join them

As long as you're outside, they have no reason to care. But that seat makes them sweat, and so it's where I have the most fun.

I can't believe you said

I can't believe you said that. Cutting deals only applies when the process has been clean and honest. We're talking THEFT here. The GOP and Romney have robbed our duly won delegates of their hard won spots. I wouldn't vote for Romney if he tried to offer me a deal for anything. You've basically just cheered for more war, more government and......... theft. This is like making a deal with the devil. I need a shower. This stinks!

But you KNEW before you ever got started

YOU KNEW from the begining we were up against those who are not clean and honest. Are you saying that you didn't KNWO that?

How did you expect to win?

Ron Paul asked you to join the GOP. If the GOP is the devil, then not only is he part of that, but he invited YOU to become part of that.

Did you expect to win by not becoming part of that? Or what was your support for Ron Paul all about? He's with the divil but clean? Or was he cutting deals, accepting pork and SS?

People don't cut deals when they've got everything going for them. It's when they are bound and gagged and don't have any way out that they cut deals. It's when the gun is to their head, if they want to be free.

Apparently you feel you have liberty and no need to cut deals. Those of us who took up Ron Paul's invitation to join the devil GOP are going to cut deals to become liberated. We might lose. But if we didn't try, we gave the devil want he wanted anyways.

You're wrong, Granger. I

You're wrong, Granger. I thought if I became a national delegate I would REMAIN a national delegate. I never in a million years thought Romney or the GOP would come in and say, "even though you won honorably, I changed the rules and picked someone else to take your place because there are too many like you who won and that embarrasses us because we don't look very popular with the masses."

I'm lucky I come from Iowa where our delegates were not stolen. But I'm one liberty lover who is furious for those delegates who did have their spots stolen.

You assume too much. "THOSE OF US..." What is that? I took up Ron Paul's invitation to become a delegate. Trust me. It was NOT with the intention of making a deal with a thief, a liar and a war monger. It's too bad that you went in there with that intention because I never did. My intention was to win delegate spots honorably and have those delegates there at Tampa.... ALL of them.

You sound like you're trying hard to convince yourself that deals with devils are perfectly OK and that I am somehow less of a liberty lover because I just happen to believe it's never OK. Not cool, Granger.