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America Depressed

I don't want to be rich. I just want to live and enjoy life. I want to wake up on a day when I don't have to work and be able to do the first thing that comes to my mind - like playing a round of golf, going fishing, or just having a few beers with some good friends. Instead, I wake up on those days thinking to myself, "If I spend 38 dollars to go golfing, I won't be able to fill up my gas tank - which needs to last me until my next paycheck still a week away." And it is because of such thinking that many aspire to be rich and wealthy.

Somewhere along this journey, obtaining wealth becomes the lone objective and the original reason deteriorates until it's just an afterthought. What is the definition of wealth anyways? Dictionary.com defines it as a great quantity or store of money, valuable possessions, property, or other riches. The goal of the journey then becomes to acquire as many "things" - whether it be money or expensive possessions - as possible. This attitude prevails in our society and we compete amongst each other to see who can get there the fastest; to see who can acquire the most. Becoming rich consumes our very reasoning for what it means to be alive. It is along this path to living life, that leads to most of the destruction and evil in this world.

This is exactly why I don't want to be rich. I just want to be successful enough to do all the things I want to do without a cause to worry. And I think that's all most people want in the beginning until they get lost in their pursuit of riches. Such a pursuit has no end and it's only purpose is to benefit the individual. There's nothing specifically wrong with that. As free people, we have the right to be pursue prosperity.

But as a society, we lack morality. We lack compassion. And the desire to become rich turns into envy. It is because of these things that we hate, we destroy, we kill, we lie.........we give up. We give up on living our lives and we ignore everything around us. We become trapped in a bubble and nothing else matters beside making that next dollar.

Yes, I am alive. We all are. But how many are actually "living?" How many can go home after work and do whatever they want? I would say not the majority of Americans. Call me a nutcase, but I like to think that this is what being middle class should feel like. The American Dream that we learned about as kids. Nowadays, it seems like - at least to me - that your either rich or poor. Let me re-word that; the rich/poor paradigm is too ambiguous. Nowadays, it seems like - at least to me - that your either struggling or you don't have a care in the world.

I don't think it's the rich in this country who should be blamed. I think it is the environment that molds us into envious, hateful beings bent on conquering everything around us by any means necessary. The environment is causing the middle class to shrink. Does it even exist anymore? Only one factor regulates our economic environment: our government. How have their regulations strengthened the middle class. I say don't blame those who are successful; because we are all at the mercy of the system. Blame the regulators, the politicians, the lobbyists....those who operate the system. If only they just let us live. We might have peace and an environment were we pursue happiness, not wealth!

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Cyril's picture

Well, he was one of those who told us about the essential of it:

(Chosen quotes)

Quote 1:

"Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves."

Quote 2:

"If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with success unexpected in common hours."

Quote 3:

"Be true to your work, your word, and your friend."

-- Henry David Thoreau

(It worked for me so far. I can't really complain. But true... so much WASTE of human potential I saw all around me all throughout 30 years because of corrupt officials and gullible people... it's disgusting. God Bless Us and LIBERTY !)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

as someone who works 3 jobs

I feel your pain. Slave labor sucks but it is what is required not to gain wealth, but to pay Debt. That my situation, hopefully one day i will be debt free.

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

How can you ever be debt free if

somone or some group, lays claims of false debt. When you think you have paid off that property and you thing that you own it, the extortionist comes along and tells you to pay a fee, (property extorted theft called tax) or they will evict you and take your debt free property from you. You seek to be debt free to indemnify yourself from theives. I assure you that tactic will prove to be hopeless. I feel your pain.


yeah and if he were to enter he would

be found with a 20 gauge stuck up his ass. The free market is efficient and just. People have the right to forcibly defend their property, and part of their property rights is the right to travel, to move goods about, and to make deals with those who are willing to make deals. Freely competing groups without territorial monopoly can uphold justice and defend people. Enforcement should protect person and property, and not redistribute wealth, etc.


His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

I want to earn as little money as necessary and

Need as little or no FRN if possible. The backwards American dream. The extorted theft called tax, on everything you earn or try to own, makes it impossible to own anything that costs money. At best we rent it on a variable rental system. For example property, once a year the govenemnt informs a property owner that the extorted theft called property tax is to be paid, just like a landlord would tell a tenant the anual rental fee. If you do not pay the extortion they steal your property.

So now my American dream is resistance and rejection of the dictators and police state. First they drove me off the farm with the easy pay check of the industrial job. The farm were converted to rural developements that people retired on and off the the city job. Then they sent all the jobs off to China, India, Mexico and any other country they could further destroy that would fall for this same industrial lie tactic.

Now no farm and no job a once proud human becoms a discard and a reject. They label him or her a bum a vagrant a looser, homless or whatever.

Oh well i can rant on and on. My final answer is still NO. Enlightened disengagement is my weapon of choice.


I like your attitude

We can choose not to be part of the system. And if we do that, the system fails

2 Chron 7:13-14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.


That is what Ghandi taught us.


Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~Thomas Paine

The obsession with richness

The obsession with richness only began after the second world war.

"Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear." - Benjamin Franklin

Cyril's picture

Here's what I want,for

Here's what I want,

for myself and my kids, when they have grown up:

To be able to use my time for work and leisure as I see fit and as best as health allows.

To NOT BE STOLEN the money I earned thru MY WORK, MY SWEAT, MY HEADACHES, or MY investments, when I dare so.

To be able TO CHOOSE how, where, and by whom my kids are educated: knowledge, principles, values, arts. And for WHICHEVER cost in time and money MY FAMILY can afford and sees fit.

To be able TO DECIDE about anything I have to put in MY body or
kids' : be it food, medication, drugs, if any.

To NOT BE forced to fund other people's projects, like doing abortions, or forcing vaccinations, or killing animals, or saving animals, or going to outer space, or smoking pot in hamacs, or partying in strip clubs and brothels while on a security mission for officials, ETC, ETC, ETC.

THEIR projects, MAYBE NOT mine.

To be able TO GIVE AWAY whatever amount of MY MONEY that I CHOOSE, and for WHICHEVER cause or WHOMEVER, I, MYSELF, defend or feel compelled to help.

To NOT BE forced to rely on anyone else but those who love me and if I need, and for anything.

To NOT BE forced into believing or endorsing anything I intimately reject as being wrong or immoral.

To be ABLE to THINK, BELIEVE, SAY and DO anything I want that doesn't infringe on anyone else's FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE.

To BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, just as EVERYBODY ELSE could be, for all the same non-infringement agreement.

To have the police help me, if I need, to defend these rights above, for me or my family, AND ONLY THESE RIGHTS, damn it.

To NOT HAVE the government involved IN ANYTHING else but the protection of these natural rights.

Freedom of thought, beliefs, speech, association with people, and move, and property.

I DEMAND, though, my voice BE HEARD, at least, when others consider to DECLARE OR ENGAGE IN WAR against a foreign country.

For OUR KIDS, our legacy, live here. THEY ARE concerned, too.

Fair enough ?

Thanks & Peace.


"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

The eyes of man are never satisfied

Everything in this life is fleeting! Everything! Especially time!

We are told to set our affections on things "above" and not on those things of earth that perish.
Those things which are seen are temporal, but those things which are not seen are eternal.
When eternity begins for a true believer in Jesus Christ, that, is when true and perfect happiness begins and NEVER ends!

It is my hope that some here on DP who are agnostic or unsure, will find that message of eternal life to be there hearts desire.

Seek ye the Lord while He may be found!

Peace everyone

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

That's the Same Thing David Rockefeller Wants-

"I just want to live and enjoy life... wake up on a day when I don't have to work and be able to do the first thing that comes to my mind..."

You wanna play golf whenever you feel like it- he wants to rule the world when he feels like it. Only differences are scale and what you're willing to do to get it.

You asked for opinions, right?- here's one.

Beyond fundamental needs (food & shelter), material wealth does not equal happiness. I've been a millionaire and I've been broke- same person with the same life either way. Human wants are endless- some people make a million and then need to make ten more in order to be "happy" (and then they're still not happy). Playing endless golf today, tomorrow will require owning a golf course. It's a treadmill- a fool's errand for anyone who believes it will "make" them happy.

Happiness is a choice- it's a conscious decision that can be made at any time and it's entirely up to you. But please don't deceive yourself that happiness will suddenly arrive when your bank account reaches a certain balance- it won't happen. Choose to be happy now- and then be.

I agree with you that

I agree with you that happiness is a choice. What I question - and what I still haven't found the answer for - is how does our economic system impact our ability to decide if we are happy. We face economic pressures everyday - whether it be taxes, mortgages, bills, gas prices, interest rates, or a devaluing dollar. How can I be happy when these things impact my daily decisions. These regulations cause stress. It's not the bank balance I am really striving for. Our economic system, however, seems to have a theory that acquiring more money is the key to stability, progress, happiness. Can't afford the gas bill? Well you should get a better job, go back to school - you know - for the purpose of making more money. This causes people to abandon their passions, their dreams, to give up on the life they wanted. The system tells the person they need to always be financially conscious. Maybe we'd see a growth in the middle class if the system was deregulated. Maybe we'd see a growth in people helping others. Families getting stronger. More interaction. Social Progress. Less desire for money. Happiness!

You are absolutely right

and what's tragic is that there is enough wealth in the country that would allow people the time and money for them to pursue their dreams.

2 Chron 7:13-14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.